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Khane

Got something right about marriage
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Heh, one of the better additions to the game and they take it out.
 
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Qhue

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Heh, one of the better additions to the game and they take it out.

It actually influenced my decision to stick with my mage for main in the expansion owing to the transportation options that mages bring to the table. You would otherwise pretty much have to bind yourself to Oribos in order to facilitate transport to both Auction Houses as well as the different planes, or bind yourself to your Covenant base-of-operations and then need Oribos becomes a layover for any other transport. I thought they would at least give you a hearthstone for your covenant like the Dalaran Hearthstone from Legion.
 
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Mist

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WoW players: Why does the world feel so small and empty?
Also WoW players: Why can't I instantly travel everywhere?
 
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Zindan

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It actually influenced my decision to stick with my mage for main in the expansion owing to the transportation options that mages bring to the table. You would otherwise pretty much have to bind yourself to Oribos in order to facilitate transport to both Auction Houses as well as the different planes, or bind yourself to your Covenant base-of-operations and then need Oribos becomes a layover for any other transport. I thought they would at least give you a hearthstone for your covenant like the Dalaran Hearthstone from Legion.
You can get a Toy (for Night Fae at least) that ports you to the Heart.

Edit: The toy / hearthstone requires Renown 11.
 
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Chris

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WoW players: Why does the world feel so small and empty?
Also WoW players: Why can't I instantly travel everywhere?
Yeah I was thinking this. I bet it's a lot of the same people too.

Nothing wrong with it taking forever to get somewhere if the rewards scale to the time spent.

Travel felt bad in classic when you travelled for 20 minutes and your dungeon group fell apart or the spawn you were going to was camped.

They can make the Maw as shitty to travel in as possible as far as I'm concerned, as long as you get far above the rewards you would get elsewhere.
 

Cybsled

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The problem is that ratio diminishes over time - perceived reward is lower as you play the game longer, but the travel time remains the same, at which point the travel time becomes a barrier that starts to outweigh the reward. This happens in every MMO ever created, including EQ1. Getting to NToV was interesting the first few times, then it became a massive fucking chore because you were running for 30+ minutes into the middle of nowhere, then you had to run forever inside the dungeon.
 
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Chris

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The problem is that ratio diminishes over time - perceived reward is lower as you play the game longer, but the travel time remains the same, at which point the travel time becomes a barrier that starts to outweigh the reward. This happens in every MMO ever created, including EQ1. Getting to NToV was interesting the first few times, then it became a massive fucking chore because you were running for 30+ minutes into the middle of nowhere, then you had to run forever inside the dungeon.
Unlockable travel options is good in that case, like the Suramar teleporters.
 
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Qhue

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I think that is what made the flight whistle so popular. I have no issue with taking some time to get somewhere, my biggest issue is the 'back again' part of 'there and back again'. This is especially annoying in this expansion because it has the same sort of WQ remoteness that we did in the previous two, but without the generally efficient layout or central transportation scheme. I go and do a WQ in Revendreth, for example, and at the end I'm in the middle of nowhere facing some arbitrarily annoying cliffs or whatever.
 
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Chris

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I think that is what made the flight whistle so popular. I have no issue with taking some time to get somewhere, my biggest issue is the 'back again' part of 'there and back again'. This is especially annoying in this expansion because it has the same sort of WQ remoteness that we did in the previous two, but without the generally efficient layout or central transportation scheme. I go and do a WQ in Revendreth, for example, and at the end I'm in the middle of nowhere facing some arbitrarily annoying cliffs or whatever.
This is a good point, if you have multiple Hearthstones then why not have the whistle?
 

Khane

Got something right about marriage
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Well, it's also a QoL improvement that basically everyone appreciated. In fact, I think most of the playerbase would have accepted never having flying again as long as we could use the flight whistle. It's always a headscratcher why they give players these QoL improvements only to take them away.
 
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Animosity

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The problem with travel is classic WoW also is how the flight pathing makes no sense. Go in a giant circle to get some where instead of flying on a diagonal path to get there.
 
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Kaige

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yeah, Thunder Bluff to Feralas is one of the most retarded flight paths in Classic.
 
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Cinge

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It actually influenced my decision to stick with my mage for main in the expansion owing to the transportation options that mages bring to the table. You would otherwise pretty much have to bind yourself to Oribos in order to facilitate transport to both Auction Houses as well as the different planes, or bind yourself to your Covenant base-of-operations and then need Oribos becomes a layover for any other transport. I thought they would at least give you a hearthstone for your covenant like the Dalaran Hearthstone from Legion.

Not sure how long it takes, but the max transport upgrade for covenant gives a portal to oribos from your base. So once that is done , wont be too horrible.
 

jayrebb

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Im reknown 2 or 3, and I have no more story campaign.

Is that normal right now? Or do I need to do something to pick up 3 and beyond? Or have i hit a time-gate? I think I need to do an anima farm maybe I saw.
 

Kaige

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If you haven't done that 1k anima quest, I think that's what gets you Renown 3. I'm not 100% sure, though.

Three is the highest you can get this week.
 

Falstaff

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Flight paths are so short in retail. I barely have time to pee on most of them. In classic I can make lunch before I make it from Kargath to Lights Hope Chapel.
 

Raes

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The optimal setup is to set your Hearth to your covenant, and when you need to go to Oribos just use your Dalaran hearthstone to go to the SW portal room. Also, I've heard that the hearth toy is just a visual effect to your hearth. And the travel network upgrade that gives you a port from cov to Oribos will be nice, but it costs like 16k anima to get, so gonna be a while. IMO they should have left the stupid armored sperm on the drawing room floor, and had portals from Oribos to the other zones.
 
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Ukerric

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Well, it's also a QoL improvement that basically everyone appreciated. In fact, I think most of the playerbase would have accepted never having flying again as long as we could use the flight whistle. It's always a headscratcher why they give players these QoL improvements only to take them away.
Because basically, each expansion is a new game, designed independently from each other. It's not World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, it's actually World of Warcraft 9: Into the Shadowlands. It probably begins with a general session "okay, what do we include in this sequel?" (even if the word sequel is not uttered, it's the mindset that counts).
 
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