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PVC. Thousands of miles of it buried in every place humans exist. Not all of would survive but a lot of that shit will still be buried under abandoned habitations tens of thousands of years from. Especially in more arid climates with quiet geology.
Pvc has a functional life span of 40-70 years. It will have all rotted away before even the last blockbuster turns to dust. It's surprising how much of society as we know it exists only because human beings maintain it. Nothing lasts forever.
Where are you getting all this bacteria already knew how to digest nylon and couldn't possibly pick up that ability in 40 years? I think you are misunderstanding what they are saying about the DNA.

Also, 40 years seems like a long time for a bacteria. If a bacteria is growing, it can divide fairly often. If they have enough food/energy most can reproduce every 20 minutes, but just to be on the cautious side, lets say that it will run into other limiting factors. So if we pad that number out, and instead say each bacteria "generation" lasts 12 hours that would mean in 40 years, there are 29,120 generations of bacteria that have lived.

If we were to then convert that into a human timeline using a 20 year generation (the low side of 20-30 years) then that 40 years for bacteria is equal to 582,400 years for humans and that number only gets bigger the closer you move to the 20 minute self divide mark.
Paper on the genome mapping.
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Was slightly wrong on the dates (nylon invented in 1935, bacteria discovered in 1977). It's genome was mapped in 2017. These bacteria developed a new enzyme called nylanase to digest nylon byproducts, it has no analogies In nature so no Chris Chris it didn't develop from a similar naturalmaterial they were already eating. I'm no geneticist nor do I claim to be one but the genes to develop this were already in the genetic code of many other bacteria and they've demonstrated that dozens of other bacteria strains can develop this enzymr in the lab. They even gave e.coli the ability to eat nylon.
 

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Pvc has a functional life span of 40-70 years. It will have all rotted away before even the last blockbuster turns to dust. It's surprising how much of society as we know it exists only because human beings maintain it. Nothing lasts forever.

Paper on the genome mapping.
Wikipedia

Was slightly wrong on the dates (nylon invented in 1935, bacteria discovered in 1977). It's genome was mapped in 2017. These bacteria developed a new enzyme called nylanase to digest nylon byproducts, it has no analogies In nature so no Chris Chris it didn't develop from a similar naturalmaterial they were already eating. I'm no geneticist nor do I claim to be one but the genes to develop this were already in the genetic code of many other bacteria and they've demonstrated that dozens of other bacteria strains can develop this enzymr in the lab. They even gave e.coli the ability to eat nylon.
Is this your interpretation or is a scientist saying that Nylon must have existed when the common ancestor of these bacteria was around?

The wiki seems to be saying that it came from a scrambled gene becoming useful.
 

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I don't think I was being vague, my criticism was mainly on the frauds leading this show. That they're preaching contradictory views on subjects without making any effort to correct past views that they have now abandoned. That they're preaching a modern-day academic conspiracy is the reason why they're views arn't widely accepted. That the core beliefs of those who follow their movement are at heart incompatible with each other and the only thing holding them together is they have built a greater enemy in academia. That their method of scientific discovery is to simply make shit up and provide no evidence for what they claim.
nope. you're still being vague. you dont address any video or subject and why you think theyre frauds. you base your dismissal on NOTHING. its ok, we get the parachute trolls here often. enjoy.
 

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Pvc has a functional life span of 40-70 years. It will have all rotted away before even the last blockbuster turns to dust. It's surprising how much of society as we know it exists only because human beings maintain it. Nothing lasts forever.

Paper on the genome mapping.
Wikipedia

Was slightly wrong on the dates (nylon invented in 1935, bacteria discovered in 1977). It's genome was mapped in 2017. These bacteria developed a new enzyme called nylanase to digest nylon byproducts, it has no analogies In nature so no Chris Chris it didn't develop from a similar naturalmaterial they were already eating. I'm no geneticist nor do I claim to be one but the genes to develop this were already in the genetic code of many other bacteria and they've demonstrated that dozens of other bacteria strains can develop this enzymr in the lab. They even gave e.coli the ability to eat nylon.
I don't see anything stating or suggesting that the gene that mutated to digest the nylon byproduct could only exist because it was used to digest nylon in the past.
 
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Pvc has a functional life span of 40-70 years. It will have all rotted away before even the last blockbuster turns to dust. It's surprising how much of society as we know it exists only because human beings maintain it. Nothing lasts forever.

Paper on the genome mapping.
Wikipedia

Was slightly wrong on the dates (nylon invented in 1935, bacteria discovered in 1977). It's genome was mapped in 2017. These bacteria developed a new enzyme called nylanase to digest nylon byproducts, it has no analogies In nature so no Chris Chris it didn't develop from a similar naturalmaterial they were already eating. I'm no geneticist nor do I claim to be one but the genes to develop this were already in the genetic code of many other bacteria and they've demonstrated that dozens of other bacteria strains can develop this enzymr in the lab. They even gave e.coli the ability to eat nylon.
Nope, you're wrong. It doesn't "rot" away. Photon degredation is the only way it's going to break down outside of specific chemicals. Obviously photon degradation doesn't apply to anything that's buried. And I'm not talking about it's functional life. Just merely stating that in 10,000 years there will still be easily found PVC in the ground in places like Las Vegas or Phoenix.

Just use some common sense, we can find old bones, shells, and tools from ancient trash heaps thousands of years old but somehow our enormous, mountain sized landfills are just going to disappear without a trace. That's nonsense.
 

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Is this your interpretation or is a scientist saying that Nylon must have existed when the common ancestor of these bacteria was around?

The wiki seems to be saying that it came from a scrambled gene becoming useful.
No I watched some japanese scientist make a huge fucking stink about it on TV a few years back when I was living in Japan. I can't find anything now though i don't know if it just got memory holed or if he was silenced. There seems to be some reddit and various other conspiracy theorist style traffic related to this on the interwebs.

Keep in mind the structure that makes this enzyme is described as being horrible inefficient and it makes no evolutionary sense for it to have evolved naturally or for bacteria to have maintained this ability without it having at some point served a purpose, to produce Nylanase, which exists solely to break down and digest nylon and nylon byproducts.
Nope, you're wrong. It doesn't "rot" away. Photon degredation is the only way it's going to break down outside of specific chemicals. Obviously photon degradation doesn't apply to anything that's buried. And I'm not talking about it's functional life. Just merely stating that in 10,000 years there will still be easily found PVC in the ground in places like Las Vegas or Phoenix.

Just use some common sense, we can find old bones, shells, and tools from ancient trash heaps thousands of years old but somehow our enormous, mountain sized landfills are just going to disappear without a trace. That's nonsense.
No you are wrong and are not thinking about the proper timelines. without human vigilance over time it will break down and degrade, plant roots will break through it, the earth will shift, the land will erode and expose it to the elements, burrowing animals will destroy it. Rats love plastic and chew through coax cable all the time, hell sharks love to take chunks out of underwater fiber optic cables. add a few millennia of earth quakes, fire and other natural disasters and all the PVC on earth would be gone in a few thousand years, nevertheless 10k. Also eventually, bacteria will evolve the ability to digest it and it will truly be destroyed, Which as previously demonstrated can take as little as 40 years to happen. Even if some of it still managed to stick around under what used to be Las Vegas in a 10k years it could be buried under thousands of feet of sand as that whole region becomes the new Sahara as half of california will lie under the pacific and the rockies erode from the new pacific breeze coming over Arizona bay.

We don't find bones or shells or whatever, we find fossils which are rocks ie mineralization which slowly replace bones as bones rot away.

in 10k years the only thing that will be left to prove we ever were here will be radioactive waste buried out in the desert.
 
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Let see what bing Ai thinks of Graham Hancock?
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Who is Graham Hancock arceology?


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Graham Bruce Hancock is a British writer born on August 2, 19501. He is known for promoting pseudoscientific theories involving ancient civilizations and hypothetical lost lands1. Hancock speculates that an advanced ice age civilization was destroyed in a cataclysm, but that its survivors passed on their knowledge to hunter-gatherers, giving rise to the earliest known civilizations of ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, and Mesoamerica1.
Hancock’s work includes a dozen books, most notably “Fingerprints of the Gods” and “Magicians of the Gods”, where he presents his theories1. His ideas have been the subject of several films, as well as the Netflix series “Ancient Apocalypse” (2022)1.
However, it’s important to note that his interpretations of archaeological evidence and historic documents have been identified as a form of pseudoarchaeology or pseudohistory1. His writings have neither undergone scholarly peer review nor been published in academic journals1. Critics argue that his theories contain confirmation bias, supporting preconceived conclusions by ignoring context, cherry-picking, or misinterpreting evidence, and withholding critical countervailing data21.
Despite the controversy surrounding his work, Hancock’s storytelling style and audacious theories have garnered a significant following2. He continues to participate in debates and discussions about his theories, including appearances on the podcast "The Joe Rogan Experience"1.

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What are some of Graham Hancock's most controversial theories?


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Graham Hancock has proposed several controversial theories throughout his career. Here are some of the most notable ones:
  1. Advanced Ice Age Civilization: Hancock proposes that an advanced civilization existed during the Ice Age, which was wiped out by a cataclysmic event, possibly a comet strike, around 12,000 years ago1. He suggests that this civilization was so thoroughly destroyed that nearly all evidence of its existence vanished1.
  2. Survivors of the Cataclysm: According to Hancock, the survivors of this advanced civilization passed on their knowledge to hunter-gatherers, sparking the rise of ancient civilizations like Egypt, Mesopotamia, and Mesoamerica2.
  3. Global Spread of Knowledge: Hancock theorizes that before their extinction, this advanced civilization sent emissaries around the world, spreading knowledge and sparking the creation of similar mythologies worldwide2.
  4. Göbekli Tepe: Hancock points to Göbekli Tepe, an archaeological site in Turkey dating back to around 11,000 years ago, as evidence of his theory. He argues that the megalithic stone pillars found there could not have been produced by hunter-gatherers of the time1.
  5. Ancient Use of Electromagnetism: In his anthology “Lost Knowledge of the Ancients”, Hancock explores alternative theories on the origins of civilization and technology, including the ancient use of electromagnetism3.
  6. NASA’s Cover-Up of Ancient Martian Civilizations: Hancock has also suggested that NASA is covering up evidence of ancient Martian civilizations3.
Critics argue that Hancock’s theories lack rigorous methodology, cherry-pick evidence, and misinterpret data4. They also point out that his theories often rely on arguments from ignorance or personal incredulity1. Despite the controversy, Hancock’s theories have found a significant audience2.

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Is there any evidence supporting his ideas?


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Graham Hancock’s theories are largely based on his interpretations of archaeological, geological, and historical evidence. Here are some points that he uses to support his ideas:
  1. Geological and Paleontological Records: Hancock points to evidence found in geological and paleontological records. He highlights the presence of nanodiamonds and high-temperature materials in the Younger Dryas boundary layer, which he believes strongly supports the theory of an extraterrestrial impact1.
  2. Göbekli Tepe: Hancock uses Göbekli Tepe, an archaeological site in Turkey dating back to around 11,000 years ago, as evidence of his theory. He argues that the megalithic stone pillars found there could not have been produced by hunter-gatherers of the time2.
  3. DNA Analysis: The relatively new science of DNA analysis offers the possibility of new evidence to back up Hancock’s theories of mass extinction events, since we can now chart our way back through time3.
However, it’s important to note that these pieces of evidence are subject to interpretation and are not universally accepted as proof of Hancock’s theories. Critics argue that Hancock’s theories lack rigorous methodology, cherry-pick evidence, and misinterpret data2. They also point out that his theories often rely on arguments from ignorance or personal incredulity2. Despite the controversy, Hancock’s theories have found a significant audience4.

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Are there any peer-reviewed studies supporting his ideas?


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Graham Hancock’s theories have been widely discussed and debated, but they have not undergone scholarly peer review nor been published in academic journals1. His interpretations of archaeological evidence and historic documents have been identified as a form of pseudoarchaeology or pseudohistory1. Critics argue that his theories contain confirmation bias, supporting preconceived conclusions by ignoring context, cherry-picking, or misinterpreting evidence, and withholding critical countervailing data1.
While Hancock’s theories have sparked interest and debate, they are not generally accepted by the mainstream scientific community. If Hancock wanted to “overthrow the paradigm of history”, he would submit his work to the scientific community in peer-reviewed journals and at professional meetings, in addition to presenting them directly to the public2.
However, it’s important to note that the lack of peer-reviewed studies does not necessarily mean that his theories are without merit. They do, however, remain controversial and are not widely accepted by mainstream archaeologists and historians

Is this response still too vague for you Chukzombi?
 

Siddar

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Chukzombi you have a lot more work to do if you want to make the Ai.

Then I got sidetracked.

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chukzombi fire of heaven?
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The Fires of Heaven: This is a fantasy novel by American writer Robert Jordan, the fifth book in his series The Wheel of Time1.
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Fire of Heaven everquest guild board
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“Fire of Heaven” is a well-known guild in the game EverQuest1. They are one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. The guild has its own forum, the “Fires of Heaven” forum, where they discuss various topics related to the game1.

They have even conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1. The AMA covered a wide range of topics, from game mechanics to future plans1.

Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy1. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly1.

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Are there any notable achievements by this guild?
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“Fire of Heaven” is indeed a notable guild in EverQuest and has made several significant contributions to the game’s community1. Here are some of their notable achievements:

Community Engagement: The guild has one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. They have conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1.
Game Firsts: The guild was known for being one of the top guilds for game firsts2. They were often at the forefront of exploring new content and achieving significant milestones in the game2.
Influence on Game Development: The guild’s leader, Furor, was known for posting cutting-edge stuff on their page that may or may not have gotten encounters/bugs etc looked at rather quick2. He also went on to work with/still work with? Blizzard with WoW2.
Legacy: The guild’s name has lived on in fame, and they continue to be recognized for their contributions to the game2.
Please note that these achievements are based on community discussions and may vary based on different sources and interpretations12.

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Tell me more about their leader, Furor.
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Furor, whose real name is Alex Afrasiabi, was the leader of the “Fire of Heaven” guild in EverQuest1. Here are some key points about him:

EverQuest: Afrasiabi, known as Furor in the game, led the Fires of Heaven guild in EverQuest2. His character, Kalaran, was the first Level 50 in EverQuest1. He was known for providing arguably controversial commentary and feedback within the community1.
Influence: Furor was known for posting cutting-edge stuff on their page that may or may not have gotten encounters/bugs etc looked at rather quick3. He was a significant figure in the game’s community and had a major influence on the game’s development3.
Transition to Blizzard: Afrasiabi later joined Blizzard, where he worked as the Lead World Designer for World of Warcraft2. His work at Blizzard has been influential, contributing to the high quality of the quests and lore in the game2.
Controversy: Afrasiabi’s online persona on the Fires of Heaven forums was seen by some as repugnant2. He was known for his sharp wit, but also for being a cocky, foul-mouthed bully who indulged in locker room bravado and juvenile one-upmanship2.
Despite the controversy surrounding his persona, Afrasiabi’s contributions to both EverQuest and World of Warcraft have left a lasting impact on the MMO gaming community231.

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Is he still active in the gaming industry?
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Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is no longer active in the gaming industry. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 due to misconduct in his treatment of other employees12345. This followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131.

After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry12345. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known12345.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?
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Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, has been out of the public eye since his departure from Blizzard in 20201234. His departure followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131234.

After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.

It’s important to note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements1234.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?
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As of the latest available information, Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is not currently active in the gaming industry1234. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 following an internal investigation into allegations of misconduct in his treatment of other employees1234.

After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.

Please note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements
 
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Who is Graham Hancock arceology?


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Graham Bruce Hancock is a British writer born on August 2, 19501. He is known for promoting pseudoscientific theories involving ancient civilizations and hypothetical lost lands1. Hancock speculates that an advanced ice age civilization was destroyed in a cataclysm, but that its survivors passed on their knowledge to hunter-gatherers, giving rise to the earliest known civilizations of ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, and Mesoamerica1.
Hancock’s work includes a dozen books, most notably “Fingerprints of the Gods” and “Magicians of the Gods”, where he presents his theories1. His ideas have been the subject of several films, as well as the Netflix series “Ancient Apocalypse” (2022)1.
However, it’s important to note that his interpretations of archaeological evidence and historic documents have been identified as a form of pseudoarchaeology or pseudohistory1. His writings have neither undergone scholarly peer review nor been published in academic journals1. Critics argue that his theories contain confirmation bias, supporting preconceived conclusions by ignoring context, cherry-picking, or misinterpreting evidence, and withholding critical countervailing data21.
Despite the controversy surrounding his work, Hancock’s storytelling style and audacious theories have garnered a significant following2. He continues to participate in debates and discussions about his theories, including appearances on the podcast "The Joe Rogan Experience"1.

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What are some of Graham Hancock's most controversial theories?


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Graham Hancock has proposed several controversial theories throughout his career. Here are some of the most notable ones:
  1. Advanced Ice Age Civilization: Hancock proposes that an advanced civilization existed during the Ice Age, which was wiped out by a cataclysmic event, possibly a comet strike, around 12,000 years ago1. He suggests that this civilization was so thoroughly destroyed that nearly all evidence of its existence vanished1.
  2. Survivors of the Cataclysm: According to Hancock, the survivors of this advanced civilization passed on their knowledge to hunter-gatherers, sparking the rise of ancient civilizations like Egypt, Mesopotamia, and Mesoamerica2.
  3. Global Spread of Knowledge: Hancock theorizes that before their extinction, this advanced civilization sent emissaries around the world, spreading knowledge and sparking the creation of similar mythologies worldwide2.
  4. Göbekli Tepe: Hancock points to Göbekli Tepe, an archaeological site in Turkey dating back to around 11,000 years ago, as evidence of his theory. He argues that the megalithic stone pillars found there could not have been produced by hunter-gatherers of the time1.
  5. Ancient Use of Electromagnetism: In his anthology “Lost Knowledge of the Ancients”, Hancock explores alternative theories on the origins of civilization and technology, including the ancient use of electromagnetism3.
  6. NASA’s Cover-Up of Ancient Martian Civilizations: Hancock has also suggested that NASA is covering up evidence of ancient Martian civilizations3.
Critics argue that Hancock’s theories lack rigorous methodology, cherry-pick evidence, and misinterpret data4. They also point out that his theories often rely on arguments from ignorance or personal incredulity1. Despite the controversy, Hancock’s theories have found a significant audience2.

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Is there any evidence supporting his ideas?


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Graham Hancock’s theories are largely based on his interpretations of archaeological, geological, and historical evidence. Here are some points that he uses to support his ideas:
  1. Geological and Paleontological Records: Hancock points to evidence found in geological and paleontological records. He highlights the presence of nanodiamonds and high-temperature materials in the Younger Dryas boundary layer, which he believes strongly supports the theory of an extraterrestrial impact1.
  2. Göbekli Tepe: Hancock uses Göbekli Tepe, an archaeological site in Turkey dating back to around 11,000 years ago, as evidence of his theory. He argues that the megalithic stone pillars found there could not have been produced by hunter-gatherers of the time2.
  3. DNA Analysis: The relatively new science of DNA analysis offers the possibility of new evidence to back up Hancock’s theories of mass extinction events, since we can now chart our way back through time3.
However, it’s important to note that these pieces of evidence are subject to interpretation and are not universally accepted as proof of Hancock’s theories. Critics argue that Hancock’s theories lack rigorous methodology, cherry-pick evidence, and misinterpret data2. They also point out that his theories often rely on arguments from ignorance or personal incredulity2. Despite the controversy, Hancock’s theories have found a significant audience4.

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Are there any peer-reviewed studies supporting his ideas?


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Graham Hancock’s theories have been widely discussed and debated, but they have not undergone scholarly peer review nor been published in academic journals1. His interpretations of archaeological evidence and historic documents have been identified as a form of pseudoarchaeology or pseudohistory1. Critics argue that his theories contain confirmation bias, supporting preconceived conclusions by ignoring context, cherry-picking, or misinterpreting evidence, and withholding critical countervailing data1.
While Hancock’s theories have sparked interest and debate, they are not generally accepted by the mainstream scientific community. If Hancock wanted to “overthrow the paradigm of history”, he would submit his work to the scientific community in peer-reviewed journals and at professional meetings, in addition to presenting them directly to the public2.
However, it’s important to note that the lack of peer-reviewed studies does not necessarily mean that his theories are without merit. They do, however, remain controversial and are not widely accepted by mainstream archaeologists and historians

Is this response still too vague for you Chukzombi?
AI owned by companies that wholly buy into the doctrine of academic study. While we also know that academic study also puts forward things such as CRT and openly ignores large amounts of factual data in order to save face with other liberal peers. I know for a fact because I'm in law classes that openly avoid calling attention to minorities and, as of this last chapter in a criminology class, says a neighborhood has a lot of robberies because of the high prevalence of Title Loan stores. :honkler:

But lets say Graham Hancock is a fraud that takes advantage of easily manipulated people. What does it matter? His schtick is getting people to look outside the box for answers. Because the reality is, we have no possible way to know that the most ancient civilizations we can think of were even the original owners of the most ancient structures in existence. They're made of stone - we aren't carbon dating fucking stone. There are several different layers, placed on top of each other, in Egypt, showing a sharp and quick degradation in craftsmanship. Could Egypt have found DEI and all of a sudden Mumtumbai from the African Straw Hut village is all of a sudden doing Royal Carvings? Sure, anything is possible. But as violent and ethnocentric as Egyptians are known to be and have always been - I somehow find doubt in that.

As for PVC existing over 10,000 years - highly doubtful, even if its decomposed form held its shape. But lets say it did - we have shit dating from roughly 20,000 years ago "we think." We could always find something else that's been hidden and it rewrite it all, again. But if the modern human has been theorized to exist anywhere from 400k to 670k years ago - how many times could civilization have started and collapsed in on itself in that time frame using our more recent timeline as an example? I mean, we can get around 20 opportunities for that to happen if we just do the basic math. Its all purely hypothetical as even the scholarly fucks know in the back of their head that their "educated guess" is still just a "guess."

nope. you're still being vague. you dont address any video or subject and why you think theyre frauds. you base your dismissal on NOTHING. its ok, we get the parachute trolls here often. enjoy.
I noticed you were doing that and got a laugh out of it.
 
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AI owned by companies that wholly buy into the doctrine of academic study. While we also know that academic study also puts forward things such as CRT and openly ignores large amounts of factual data in order to save face with other liberal peers. I know for a fact because I'm in law classes that openly avoid calling attention to minorities and, as of this last chapter in a criminology class, says a neighborhood has a lot of robberies because of the high prevalence of Title Loan stores. :honkler:

But lets say Graham Hancock is a fraud that takes advantage of easily manipulated people. What does it matter? His schtick is getting people to look outside the box for answers. Because the reality is, we have no possible way to know that the most ancient civilizations we can think of were even the original owners of the most ancient structures in existence. They're made of stone - we aren't carbon dating fucking stone. There are several different layers, placed on top of each other, in Egypt, showing a sharp and quick degradation in craftsmanship. Could Egypt have found DEI and all of a sudden Mumtumbai from the African Straw Hut village is all of a sudden doing Royal Carvings? Sure, anything is possible. But as violent and ethnocentric as Egyptians are known to be and have always been - I somehow find doubt in that.

As for PVC existing over 10,000 years - highly doubtful, even if its decomposed form held its shape. But lets say it did - we have shit dating from roughly 20,000 years ago "we think." We could always find something else that's been hidden and it rewrite it all, again. But if the modern human has been theorized to exist anywhere from 400k to 670k years ago - how many times could civilization have started and collapsed in on itself in that time frame using our more recent timeline as an example? I mean, we can get around 20 opportunities for that to happen if we just do the basic math. Its all purely hypothetical as even the scholarly fucks know in the back of their head that their "educated guess" is still just a "guess."


I noticed you were doing that and got a laugh out of it.
if somebody calling out youtuber names as frauds, i would like to know why they are saying that. he said UnchartedX was a fraud, he has no idea what UnchartedX even is.
 

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chukzombi fire of heaven?
Copilot
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find any specific information related to “chukzombi fire of heaven”. The term “Fire of Heaven” could refer to a few different things:

The Fires of Heaven: This is a fantasy novel by American writer Robert Jordan, the fifth book in his series The Wheel of Time1.
Biblical References: The term “fire of heaven” appears in various contexts in religious texts, such as in the Bible2.
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Fire of Heaven everquest guild board
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“Fire of Heaven” is a well-known guild in the game EverQuest1. They are one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. The guild has its own forum, the “Fires of Heaven” forum, where they discuss various topics related to the game1.

They have even conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1. The AMA covered a wide range of topics, from game mechanics to future plans1.

Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy1. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly1.

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Are there any notable achievements by this guild?
Copilot
“Fire of Heaven” is indeed a notable guild in EverQuest and has made several significant contributions to the game’s community1. Here are some of their notable achievements:

Community Engagement: The guild has one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. They have conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1.
Game Firsts: The guild was known for being one of the top guilds for game firsts2. They were often at the forefront of exploring new content and achieving significant milestones in the game2.
Influence on Game Development: The guild’s leader, Furor, was known for posting cutting-edge stuff on their page that may or may not have gotten encounters/bugs etc looked at rather quick2. He also went on to work with/still work with? Blizzard with WoW2.
Legacy: The guild’s name has lived on in fame, and they continue to be recognized for their contributions to the game2.
Please note that these achievements are based on community discussions and may vary based on different sources and interpretations12.

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Tell me more about their leader, Furor.
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Furor, whose real name is Alex Afrasiabi, was the leader of the “Fire of Heaven” guild in EverQuest1. Here are some key points about him:

EverQuest: Afrasiabi, known as Furor in the game, led the Fires of Heaven guild in EverQuest2. His character, Kalaran, was the first Level 50 in EverQuest1. He was known for providing arguably controversial commentary and feedback within the community1.
Influence: Furor was known for posting cutting-edge stuff on their page that may or may not have gotten encounters/bugs etc looked at rather quick3. He was a significant figure in the game’s community and had a major influence on the game’s development3.
Transition to Blizzard: Afrasiabi later joined Blizzard, where he worked as the Lead World Designer for World of Warcraft2. His work at Blizzard has been influential, contributing to the high quality of the quests and lore in the game2.
Controversy: Afrasiabi’s online persona on the Fires of Heaven forums was seen by some as repugnant2. He was known for his sharp wit, but also for being a cocky, foul-mouthed bully who indulged in locker room bravado and juvenile one-upmanship2.
Despite the controversy surrounding his persona, Afrasiabi’s contributions to both EverQuest and World of Warcraft have left a lasting impact on the MMO gaming community231.

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Is he still active in the gaming industry?
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Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is no longer active in the gaming industry. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 due to misconduct in his treatment of other employees12345. This followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131.

After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry12345. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known12345.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?
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Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, has been out of the public eye since his departure from Blizzard in 20201234. His departure followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131234.

After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.

It’s important to note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements1234.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?
Copilot
As of the latest available information, Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is not currently active in the gaming industry1234. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 following an internal investigation into allegations of misconduct in his treatment of other employees1234.

After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.

Please note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements

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chukzombi fire of heaven?


Copilot
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find any specific information related to “chukzombi fire of heaven”. The term “Fire of Heaven” could refer to a few different things:
  1. The Fires of Heaven: This is a fantasy novel by American writer Robert Jordan, the fifth book in his series The Wheel of Time1.
  2. Biblical References: The term “fire of heaven” appears in various contexts in religious texts, such as in the Bible2.
If “chukzombi” is a specific reference or context, could you please provide more details? I’d be happy to help with more information.

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You
Fire of Heaven everquest guild board


Copilot
“Fire of Heaven” is a well-known guild in the game EverQuest1. They are one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. The guild has its own forum, the “Fires of Heaven” forum, where they discuss various topics related to the game1.
They have even conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1. The AMA covered a wide range of topics, from game mechanics to future plans1.
Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy1. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly1.

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You
Are there any notable achievements by this guild?


Copilot
“Fire of Heaven” is indeed a notable guild in EverQuest and has made several significant contributions to the game’s community1. Here are some of their notable achievements:
  1. Community Engagement: The guild has one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. They have conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1.
  2. Game Firsts: The guild was known for being one of the top guilds for game firsts2. They were often at the forefront of exploring new content and achieving significant milestones in the game2.
  3. Influence on Game Development: The guild’s leader, Furor, was known for posting cutting-edge stuff on their page that may or may not have gotten encounters/bugs etc looked at rather quick2. He also went on to work with/still work with? Blizzard with WoW2.
  4. Legacy: The guild’s name has lived on in fame, and they continue to be recognized for their contributions to the game2.
Please note that these achievements are based on community discussions and may vary based on different sources and interpretations12.

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You
Tell me more about their leader, Furor.


Copilot
Furor, whose real name is Alex Afrasiabi, was the leader of the “Fire of Heaven” guild in EverQuest1. Here are some key points about him:
Despite the controversy surrounding his persona, Afrasiabi’s contributions to both EverQuest and World of Warcraft have left a lasting impact on the MMO gaming community231.

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You
Is he still active in the gaming industry?


Copilot
Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is no longer active in the gaming industry. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 due to misconduct in his treatment of other employees12345. This followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131.
After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry12345. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known12345.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?


Copilot
Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, has been out of the public eye since his departure from Blizzard in 20201234. His departure followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131234.
After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.
It’s important to note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements1234.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?


Copilot
As of the latest available information, Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is not currently active in the gaming industry1234. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 following an internal investigation into allegations of misconduct in his treatment of other employees1234.
After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.
Please note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements
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Astrocreep Fires of Heaven EQ WoW guild forum
Copilot
Astrocreep is a name that could be associated with a user or character in the context of the Fires of Heaven guild in EverQuest (EQ) or World of Warcraft (WoW). However, I couldn’t find specific information about an individual named Astrocreep in relation to the Fires of Heaven guild forum123.

The Fires of Heaven guild is a well-known guild in both EQ and WoW, and they have an active forum where members discuss various topics related to the games123. If Astrocreep is a member of this guild, they might be active on this forum123.

Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy123. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly123.

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Tell me more about Astrocreep.
Copilot
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find specific information about an individual named Astrocreep in relation to the Fires of Heaven guild in EverQuest or World of Warcraft1234. The name Astrocreep could be associated with a user or character in these games, but without more specific details, it’s difficult to provide accurate information1234.

If Astrocreep is a member of the Fires of Heaven guild, they might be active on the guild’s forum1234. The Fires of Heaven guild is known for its achievements in both EverQuest and World of Warcraft, and its members often discuss various topics related to the games on their forum1234.

Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy1234. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly1234. If you have more specific details about Astrocreep, I’d be happy to help with more information.
 

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No I watched some japanese scientist make a huge fucking stink about it on TV a few years back when I was living in Japan. I can't find anything now though i don't know if it just got memory holed or if he was silenced. There seems to be some reddit and various other conspiracy theorist style traffic related to this on the interwebs.

Keep in mind the structure that makes this enzyme is described as being horrible inefficient and it makes no evolutionary sense for it to have evolved naturally or for bacteria to have maintained this ability without it having at some point served a purpose, to produce Nylanase, which exists solely to break down and digest nylon and nylon byproducts.

No you are wrong and are not thinking about the proper timelines. without human vigilance over time it will break down and degrade, plant roots will break through it, the earth will shift, the land will erode and expose it to the elements, burrowing animals will destroy it. Rats love plastic and chew through coax cable all the time, hell sharks love to take chunks out of underwater fiber optic cables. add a few millennia of earth quakes, fire and other natural disasters and all the PVC on earth would be gone in a few thousand years, nevertheless 10k. Also eventually, bacteria will evolve the ability to digest it and it will truly be destroyed, Which as previously demonstrated can take as little as 40 years to happen. Even if some of it still managed to stick around under what used to be Las Vegas in a 10k years it could be buried under thousands of feet of sand as that whole region becomes the new Sahara as half of california will lie under the pacific and the rockies erode from the new pacific breeze coming over Arizona bay.

We don't find bones or shells or whatever, we find fossils which are rocks ie mineralization which slowly replace bones as bones rot away.

in 10k years the only thing that will be left to prove we ever were here will be radioactive waste buried out in the desert.

Nylon production requires sophisticated usage of hydrocarbons. Extraction and use of which by an industrial level civilization would leave observable traces in the geologic record for millions, if not hundreds of millions of years.

The amount of nitrogen an industrial agricultural civilization redirects into the soil would be a dead giveaway. Resource extraction, especially rare-Earth metals, would leave tell tale signs only wiped away by the deep time of continental drift. The entire environment is covered in microplastics today, including in the poles, where they’d be preserved for hundreds of thousands of years. A layer of microplastic on the ocean floor would be detectable for millions of years. If they invented nylon, they sure as shit used a lot of plastic.

The notion that a long forgotten industrial civilian was producing nylon in the last million years and we don’t know about it is pure fantasy. I’d be willing to take that number back to the Cretaceous period with decent confidence.

What’s orders of magnitude more likely is that you’ve either consumed bad information or misinterpreted good information about the ‘nylon eating’ bacteria you consider to be evidence for your, respectfully, impossible conclusions.


If there are ‘lost civilizations’ in our past, they never made it past a pre-industrial state.
 
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chukzombi fire of heaven?


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I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find any specific information related to “chukzombi fire of heaven”. The term “Fire of Heaven” could refer to a few different things:
  1. The Fires of Heaven: This is a fantasy novel by American writer Robert Jordan, the fifth book in his series The Wheel of Time1.
  2. Biblical References: The term “fire of heaven” appears in various contexts in religious texts, such as in the Bible2.
If “chukzombi” is a specific reference or context, could you please provide more details? I’d be happy to help with more information.

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You
Fire of Heaven everquest guild board


Copilot
“Fire of Heaven” is a well-known guild in the game EverQuest1. They are one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. The guild has its own forum, the “Fires of Heaven” forum, where they discuss various topics related to the game1.
They have even conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1. The AMA covered a wide range of topics, from game mechanics to future plans1.
Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy1. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly1.

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You
Are there any notable achievements by this guild?


Copilot
“Fire of Heaven” is indeed a notable guild in EverQuest and has made several significant contributions to the game’s community1. Here are some of their notable achievements:
  1. Community Engagement: The guild has one of the oldest and most active MMO communities1. They have conducted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session with the EverQuest leadership team, where they asked a series of questions and received in-depth responses1.
  2. Game Firsts: The guild was known for being one of the top guilds for game firsts2. They were often at the forefront of exploring new content and achieving significant milestones in the game2.
  3. Influence on Game Development: The guild’s leader, Furor, was known for posting cutting-edge stuff on their page that may or may not have gotten encounters/bugs etc looked at rather quick2. He also went on to work with/still work with? Blizzard with WoW2.
  4. Legacy: The guild’s name has lived on in fame, and they continue to be recognized for their contributions to the game2.
Please note that these achievements are based on community discussions and may vary based on different sources and interpretations12.

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You
Tell me more about their leader, Furor.


Copilot
Furor, whose real name is Alex Afrasiabi, was the leader of the “Fire of Heaven” guild in EverQuest1. Here are some key points about him:
Despite the controversy surrounding his persona, Afrasiabi’s contributions to both EverQuest and World of Warcraft have left a lasting impact on the MMO gaming community231.

Learn more
1wowwiki-archive.fandom.com2wolfsheadonline.com3project1999.com4fohguild.org5wowwiki.com+3 more




You
Is he still active in the gaming industry?


Copilot
Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is no longer active in the gaming industry. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 due to misconduct in his treatment of other employees12345. This followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131.
After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry12345. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known12345.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?


Copilot
Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, has been out of the public eye since his departure from Blizzard in 20201234. His departure followed allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct surrounding the ‘Cosby Suite’ at Blizzcon 20131234.
After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.
It’s important to note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements1234.

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Is there any recent news about his activities?


Copilot
As of the latest available information, Alex Afrasiabi, also known as Furor, is not currently active in the gaming industry1234. He was fired from Blizzard in 2020 following an internal investigation into allegations of misconduct in his treatment of other employees1234.
After his departure from Blizzard, there have been no public reports of Afrasiabi being involved in any other projects within the gaming industry1234. His current activities and involvement in the gaming industry, if any, are not publicly known1234.
Please note that the information available is based on public sources and may not be up-to-date or complete. For the most accurate information, it would be best to check the most recent news articles or official statements

You
Astrocreep Fires of Heaven EQ WoW guild forum
Copilot
Astrocreep is a name that could be associated with a user or character in the context of the Fires of Heaven guild in EverQuest (EQ) or World of Warcraft (WoW). However, I couldn’t find specific information about an individual named Astrocreep in relation to the Fires of Heaven guild forum123.

The Fires of Heaven guild is a well-known guild in both EQ and WoW, and they have an active forum where members discuss various topics related to the games123. If Astrocreep is a member of this guild, they might be active on this forum123.

Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy123. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly123.

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Tell me more about Astrocreep.
Copilot
I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find specific information about an individual named Astrocreep in relation to the Fires of Heaven guild in EverQuest or World of Warcraft1234. The name Astrocreep could be associated with a user or character in these games, but without more specific details, it’s difficult to provide accurate information1234.

If Astrocreep is a member of the Fires of Heaven guild, they might be active on the guild’s forum1234. The Fires of Heaven guild is known for its achievements in both EverQuest and World of Warcraft, and its members often discuss various topics related to the games on their forum1234.

Please note that the information available on these forums is user-generated and may not always be accurate or up-to-date. Always cross-check information from multiple sources for accuracy1234. If you’re interested in more specific details or discussions, you might want to visit the forum directly1234. If you have more specific details about Astrocreep, I’d be happy to help with more information.
What is this fucking bullshit? this is just straight up spam that doesn't belong here.
 
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