frauds? speculating about things is not fraud. its also not fraud if the supposed fraudster isnt stealing anything tangible. he's just giving his opinion about something he's passionate about and its obvious he does a lot of research on it.
When you know the things you're speculating about are false, then your speculation turns into a fraud.
thats not what fraud means and you know about as much as anyone else what was or wasnt in Mauritania 10k years ago. you're entitled to your opinion, but thats all it is.
The current crop of "my way or the highway" people would rather believe Wakanda is real, more so than whitey mcwhite-white Atlantis. As if we actually know what the fuck even existed in 10,000 BC, when even fucking plastic has disintegrated in that time frame.
The industrial revolution and every decade since it started has put enough shit in the atmosphere to be noticed in, at a minimum, Greenland's glaciers and eventually Antarctica's massive glaciers (not to mention the various other glaciers around the world). The Greenland glaciers go back at least 100,000 years and the Antarctic ones go back at least 750,000 years. Explaining how an industrial, let alone an advanced society developed without leaving a trace in the ice cores, especially so close to Greenland, seems like an extreme hurdle.
There also wasn't 7 billion people on the planet in 10k BC. Ice core samples likely wouldn't detect Atlantis which stood out amongst other ancient civs for their comparatively advanced technology while many other cultures were living in homes made using their own shit.
this is not exactly true.
He's leading you. Whether he's doing it intentionally or he is just prone to forcing his interpretations upon other people passively is irrelevant.
yes i am aware. i played this game with people who are better at it than him. i respond so people who arent obtuse can see that he's being a d-bag troll and not actually interested in discussing anything.
The first country to go through an industrial revolution was England in ~1759. England doesn't look much bigger than that Atlantis map above. The lead released in those early years is detected in Greenland ice cores (source). If Atlantis had moved from industrial to advanced enough to produce plastic, then the industry should have been at least as wide spread as those early years in England, for a much longer period of time. So they should have produced more than enough byproducts to also be detected.
I'm not "interpreting" anything. There is no evidence to interpret, when there should be, is what I am saying.
That statement makes no fucking sense. You're "interpreting" my line "Even plastic deteriorates in that time frame" to mean that there was an industrial revolution. No one said Atlantis had an industrial revolution. First and foremost, you dont need a fucking industrial revolution to make basic fucking plastics. Why you're associating that with plastic is just being short sighted. Secondly, I brought Plastic up as an example to show how much time has passed since it takes a long time for fucking plastic to deteriorate. Longer than most other materials in use, today. You're grasping at fucking straws just so you can follow your own fucking made up time line. Its fucking insufferable on levels similar to talking to Chris.
Combining your two comments on plastic that I have read in the last week or two, with that of the nylon posts (from sylas) previously, yes, I thought the whole mystique around Atlantis was that of an "advanced" civilization that did not share any of it's technology (that must have made nylon and plastics). So bad assumption on my part I guess.
You don't think I looked it up before asking the questions? I couldn't find anything contradicting the questions I asked. Yet you seem to have some secret knowledge that plastics will be undetectable after 10,000 years.
Leading again with "undetectable." No one said "undetectable." Much less why plastics matter. Again, you're leading with the plastics motive and are being intellectually dishonest.
Then I guess I don't understand your point in regards to bringing up "plastic disintegrating in that time frame" (10,000 years). That is what I was always responding to.
I wasn't talking about plastics and lead. I'm talking about mechanical engineering. This hypothetical Atlantis would have impressive stone rings surrounding the main fortress/castle. Very similar to Gondor with ports for all the incoming and outgoing ships. When the massive wall of water came in and washed the structures and the land away it set trade and technology back thousands of years
Well, that certainly seem reasonable and more likely, if there was such a place.
its not so much disappeared but as a dissipation. the whatever disaster that swept Atlantis into the ocean would have spread the ruins all over the coast line or into sea. what was left was looted and repurposed by the locals or just buried over time. Mauritania just so happens to have the worlds biggest resource for gold.
