Ancient Civilizations

Guurn said:

zawi hawass

I'll ask. Isn't he the guy that hid or destroyed everything that didn't fit his narrative which included suggesting that ancient Egyptians were Muslim?

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Guurn said:

zawi hawass

I'll ask. Isn't he the guy that hid or destroyed everything that didn't fit his narrative which included suggesting that ancient Egyptians were Muslim?

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Chukzombi said:

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Tutankhamun's golden throne is one of the most important objects among the more than 5000 artifacts found in the tomb of Pharaoh Tutankhamun. Made in 1330 BC, it is today preserved in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

The profound and solid connection that exists in this work between the refinement of the symbolic messages and their own perfection from an artistic point of view, attests to the presence, from the 14th century BC, of specialized workshops which, with the means that tradition made at their disposal, they managed to create works of the highest quality.

It is a wooden parade throne, carefully carved and covered with golden and silver sheets, both embossed. The high technical-artistic value of this object, already precious as a goldsmith's art product alone, is fueled by the inserts of semiprecious stones and colored enamels, the latter produced with hot melted glass paste, whose colors were determined by the addition of metal oxides.

It can be said that this golden wooden seat is an emblem of pharaonic power, showing the attributes and virtues of Egyptian rulers, although, with great probability, Tutankhamun never sat there.

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Daidraco said:

What I find most interesting about stuff like that is the existential idea of Civilizations like Egypt, compared to my own timeline. When we look at this stuff dating back 3, 4, 5, 6,000 years +, it makes me wonder. Wonder about how many times they achieved excellence and then fell to their knees in technological disgrace, over and over again, over that same time frame. Japan is over 1700 years as an empire at one point, but its a fucking Island nation. So 800-900 years for Byzantine? Or the Romans? Which by all accounts are the longest lasting?

So with that in mind, how many times has the civilization been replaced by its conquerors? How many times did Egypt go through a "Dark Ages" theocracy or similar? Or a Golden Age, for comparison?

With something left mostly up to mystery, lost to time, it makes me laugh when some of you guys argue over "Factual" shit that within a decade or two will no longer be "Factual."

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MusicForFish said:

Pretty sure this belongs here.

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Rajaah said:

I went and dug up the stone so I can take some pictures in sunlight.

Whatever this is, I found it under some dirt in a quarry deep in the woods like 30 years ago.

Here it is:

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This is what I think is the "front", and the metal pointer is going to be pointing at this side in the following shots to give you perspective.


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Looks like it was burned underneath over a fire. I've shown it on here before but I've got more hi-res shots this time.

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Rajaah said:

Watched a bunch of Bright Insight. So, The Guardian has been saying that belief in Atlantis is "dangerous"? Dangerous to who, exactly? And the editor in chief is a WEF "golden girl", the same WEF whose members seem to be trying to block excavation of various prehistoric/antediluvian civilizations.

In other news, found a couple interesting maps in the Library of Congress, both from the 1800s:

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Carte conjecturale de l'Atlantide : d'après le Colonel Bory de St. Vincent

(Conjectural map of Atlantis, by Colonel St. Vincent)

The note here says that red underlined names are their modern names, blue underlined are ancient names, and non-underlined names "go back to highest antiquity".

You can see the Azores, Canaries, and other modern island chains here. I'm guessing this was done as a conceptual idea of what Atlantis might have been, rather than an actual map based on anything, since the topographic landform of the Atlantic in this area doesn't really back up the idea (it looks vastly more likely that Mu existed in the Pacific ocean).

Couple noteworthy things: "Amazone" is seen here, as if this was when South America and Africa were a lot closer together. Perhaps that's what we're looking at rather than a large sunken island. Also "Nation of Gorgon" to the south of "Nation of Atlantis". The Gorgon, of course, was a mythological monster. IIRC medusa was from that area, as was the cyclops.

There's one other map in the Library of Congress that has anything to do with Atlantis:

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This one is also from the 1800s and shows a Mediterranean empire that also managed to expand out quite a ways. Likely another hypothetical someone made rather than anything concrete. Kind of curious what the lines are in the Atlantic though, as they appear to be bridges of some sort between the land masses, and one of them goes right up into Mauritania / Eye of the Sahara.

I still think Eye of the Sahara was Atlantis, or at least the capitol of it. Might have been built on a natural landform, might have been artificially constructed, but it was probably there. It seems like just conjecture that it existed in the middle of the ocean, unless someone actually finds ruins around the Azores. Which might have already happened, I don't know, information on all things remotely related to Atlantis seems to be completely throttled.

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Rajaah said:

Watched a bunch of Bright Insight. So, The Guardian has been saying that belief in Atlantis is "dangerous"? Dangerous to who, exactly? And the editor in chief is a WEF "golden girl", the same WEF whose members seem to be trying to block excavation of various prehistoric/antediluvian civilizations.

In other news, found a couple interesting maps in the Library of Congress, both from the 1800s:

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Carte conjecturale de l'Atlantide : d'après le Colonel Bory de St. Vincent

(Conjectural map of Atlantis, by Colonel St. Vincent)

The note here says that red underlined names are their modern names, blue underlined are ancient names, and non-underlined names "go back to highest antiquity".

You can see the Azores, Canaries, and other modern island chains here. I'm guessing this was done as a conceptual idea of what Atlantis might have been, rather than an actual map based on anything, since the topographic landform of the Atlantic in this area doesn't really back up the idea (it looks vastly more likely that Mu existed in the Pacific ocean).

Couple noteworthy things: "Amazone" is seen here, as if this was when South America and Africa were a lot closer together. Perhaps that's what we're looking at rather than a large sunken island. Also "Nation of Gorgon" to the south of "Nation of Atlantis". The Gorgon, of course, was a mythological monster. IIRC medusa was from that area, as was the cyclops.

There's one other map in the Library of Congress that has anything to do with Atlantis:

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This one is also from the 1800s and shows a Mediterranean empire that also managed to expand out quite a ways. Likely another hypothetical someone made rather than anything concrete. Kind of curious what the lines are in the Atlantic though, as they appear to be bridges of some sort between the land masses, and one of them goes right up into Mauritania / Eye of the Sahara.

I still think Eye of the Sahara was Atlantis, or at least the capitol of it. Might have been built on a natural landform, might have been artificially constructed, but it was probably there. It seems like just conjecture that it existed in the middle of the ocean, unless someone actually finds ruins around the Azores. Which might have already happened, I don't know, information on all things remotely related to Atlantis seems to be completely throttled.

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