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What was the first major game to shoe horn in the whole gay romance options? Mass effect? Dragon Age 1?
Define shoehorn. Bioware was probably the first to do it but the original BG 1 and 2 were hetero only. Kotor and Jade Empire had girl-girl romances but the 'romance' in those games consisted of like one quest, a couple lines of dialogue, and one slide during the ending. Mass Effect 1 had girl/girl in the form of Femshep/Liara so I think DAO was the first with Zevran if 'literally anything with a pulse' makes Zevran count as gay.

Back then Bioware's relationship writing was still pretty good, or in the case of Zevran hilarious. I never romanced him exclusively but I did spit-roast Leliana with him as well as having a foursome with him, Leliana, and Isabela. I don't think Mass Effect had a purely faggot option until 3 but iirc Dragon Age started it in the expansion to DAO.
 
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What was the first major game to shoe horn in the whole gay romance options? Mass effect? Dragon Age 1?

The first one from a AAA developer that I can think of that had m/m options was Fable in 2004, which predated even most of the Bioslop. Bully let you kiss guys in 2006. Zevran was in DA: O, but he hit on everyone, and he dropped it immediately if you said you weren't interested.

Anders in DA2 was the first really hamfisted one, i.e. if you were just "nice" to him and picked diplomatic options, it started you down the romance path.
 
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The first one from a AAA developer that I can think of that had m/m options was Fable in 2004, which predated even most of the Bioslop. Bully let you kiss guys in 2006. Zevran was in DA: O, but he hit on everyone, and he dropped it immediately if you said you weren't interested.

Anders in DA2 was the first really hamfisted one, i.e. if you were just "nice" to him and picked diplomatic options, it started you down the romance path.
Wow you really know your gay romance, you're an afagcionado
 
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Wow you really know your gay romance, you're an afagcionado
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Edit: uhum, thanks for the great context/history, guys.
 

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The first one from a AAA developer that I can think of that had m/m options was Fable in 2004, which predated even most of the Bioslop. Bully let you kiss guys in 2006. Zevran was in DA: O, but he hit on everyone, and he dropped it immediately if you said you weren't interested.

Anders in DA2 was the first really hamfisted one, i.e. if you were just "nice" to him and picked diplomatic options, it started you down the romance path.
That's pretty good knowledge there, but I think you forgot the true first faggot in video game history:
He fucked every dude in the game and instantly outed anyone that picked him.
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This POS is already $10 off for Xbox at Best Buy lol
 
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Define shoehorn. Bioware was probably the first to do it but the original BG 1 and 2 were hetero only. Kotor and Jade Empire had girl-girl romances but the 'romance' in those games consisted of like one quest, a couple lines of dialogue, and one slide during the ending. Mass Effect 1 had girl/girl in the form of Femshep/Liara so I think DAO was the first with Zevran if 'literally anything with a pulse' makes Zevran count as gay.

Back then Bioware's relationship writing was still pretty good, or in the case of Zevran hilarious. I never romanced him exclusively but I did spit-roast Leliana with him as well as having a foursome with him, Leliana, and Isabela. I don't think Mass Effect had a purely faggot option until 3 but iirc Dragon Age started it in the expansion to DAO.
I specifically remember DA:O because my dad was romancing Zevran with a hairy dwarf and kept sending me pics of the sex scenes every time something would get going.
 
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2m players now, new peak CCU 57k on steam. bigger than launch of origins/odyssey but not yet bigger than valhalla (2020)

 
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Was Mirage not a "full game"? I hardly ever hear it mentioned, also the first Assassins Creed I never played. Did not like when they changed the gameplay in Origins I think it was, and slowly lost interest in the franchise.
 
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And with 732 “friends” on PlayStation 8 own the game.

236 on Xbox 2

Steam: 2.

So once again no sales numbers, and more than likely a huge chunk coming from Ubisoft Plus which is also available on Xbox. Along with promos and sponsors.

No way are they coming close to breaking even.

I predict an overall loss of roughly 75-100 million.
 
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Also as of now hovering shy of 60k concurrent now on steam.
 

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Insane sales numbers in Japan with incredible user rating. A massive win for ubislop

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Utnayan

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Ack. Up to ten on my friends list own this game now.

Days Gone remastered : 156 😂
 

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Was Mirage not a "full game"? I hardly ever hear it mentioned, also the first Assassins Creed I never played. Did not like when they changed the gameplay in Origins I think it was, and slowly lost interest in the franchise.

it was originally conceived of as a DLC for valhalla. I platinumed it, its fine its short for an AC game with around 10-12 hours to finish, 20-25 hours to 100%. The Odyssey/Valhalla DLCs were longer. I still enjoyed it but it was very minimal with a threadbare story, mostly fun just exploring 860s ancient Persia
 
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I wonder what madness Ghost of Yotei will bring. its gone cold since
 
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Yeah, Ubisoft is done. Lol

Terrible music, black and gay. They just committed Seppuku.

R.I.P. Ubisoft.
 
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Peaked at 60k and already down
 
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