Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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The director should troll all the batman fans by having multiple scenes where superman rips off batman's head then soccer punts it into orbit, melts him into slag with heat vision, drops an oil tanker on Wayne manor, etc.. but then he flashes back and is like "but I'm not going to do that. I believe in you, Bruce." and have those scenes be ultra violent to show what Supes "could" do.
This is probably what happens in that Batman imagines Superman capturing him and pulling off his cowl sequence. It then motivates Batman to be even more better prepared.
 

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I've been trying to figure out those scenes with Batman in the desert, parademons, etc. Unless they are just going full retard and trying to set up Darkseid already in this movie, the only thing that I could think of that made even a little sense was using it as some sort of vision of a potential future by the Amazons to motivate Diana to come out of hiding and team up with them. Anything else just doesn't make any sense to me without DC trying to skip all the steps Marvel took and just going straight to their version of Infinity Wars.
 

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Anything else just doesn't make any sense to me without DC trying to skip all the steps Marvel took and just going straight to their version of Infinity Wars.
It's pretty clear that they are going straight from this to Justice League, with almost no build up, as they are trying to catch up with Marvel. I have a feeling they want to get Darkseid in before Thanos.

The rush is what is going to hurt DC's box office.
 

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It's pretty clear that they are going straight from this to Justice League, with almost no build up, as they are trying to catch up with Marvel. I have a feeling they want to get Darkseid in before Thanos.

The rush is what is going to hurt DC's box office.
Yep, that's what its like looking like.
 

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It's weird because a lot of people grew up with The Super friends so most folk know who AquaMan, Green Lantern, and Flash are. But other than Lex and the main Batman villians, casuals won't know who Darkseid and Doomsday are. Remember back to Avengers, no one knew who Thanos was, but we are slowly finding out. DC wants to push it fast and I think average people will be confused.

It's hard to gauge fan reactions and average movie goer reaction. I'm not into DC or their movies. I enjoyed Nolan's trilogy. I hope this does well for the fans of DC, but I'm just not interested enough at this time.
 

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I've been trying to figure out those scenes with Batman in the desert, parademons, etc. Unless they are just going full retard and trying to set up Darkseid already in this movie, the only thing that I could think of that made even a little sense was using it as some sort of vision of a potential future by the Amazons to motivate Diana to come out of hiding and team up with them. Anything else just doesn't make any sense to me without DC trying to skip all the steps Marvel took and just going straight to their version of Infinity Wars.
reddit early viewing says it's all nightmare stuff from Bruce's dreams
 

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But other than Lex and the main Batman villians, casuals won't know who Darkseid and Doomsday are.
I'm actually ok with Doomsday being redone/rewritten, but then again I'm probably still bitter about the entire Death of Superman bullshit. That's one of the things that made me quit comics.

Darkseid, I dunno about really. Will have to see how it goes.

What seems weird to me is that there were a lot of people complaining about the scale of destruction in the Superman movie, but if that scene with DarkseidISN'Ta glimpse of the future then I'm gonna LOL when people are all like"WTF, is the entire DCU a crater? Is the entire world going to look like urban Syria after all these years of civil war?"
 

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I'm actually ok with Doomsday being redone/rewritten, but then again I'm probably still bitter about the entire Death of Superman bullshit. That's one of the things that made me quit comics.

Darkseid, I dunno about really. Will have to see how it goes.

What seems weird to me is that there were a lot of people complaining about the scale of destruction in the Superman movie, but if that scene with DarkseidISN'Ta glimpse of the future then I'm gonna LOL when people are all like"WTF, is the entire DCU a crater? Is the entire world going to look like urban Syria after all these years of civil war?"
its Apokolips itself. that wasn't Earth.
 

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Gavinmad is stuck in 2002.
Still fuckable imo

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Aren't Batman movies always trying to be gritty and dark? Now it's a wonderful oportunity to do it.
 

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I'm actually ok with Doomsday being redone/rewritten, but then again I'm probably still bitter about the entire Death of Superman bullshit. That's one of the things that made me quit comics.
Jeez, hold a grudge long? That was over 20 years ago. I'm not happy Bane broke Batman's back, but I'm not losing any sleep over that.
 

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Were the leaked reviews from screenings fake?

Lots of chatter that the last third of the movie is basically Aquaman, Lantern, Flash, and Cyborg coming to save the day? So it ends up as the JL.
 

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It's not necessarily a huge misstep to have darksied without an intro. Christopher reeve Superman had general zod without the general public knowing who he is and that worked out... The problem is that its like playing poker with a 10 year old... He keeps telling you how great a hand it is except he can't stop accidentally showing you his cards. We ALL know why darksied is in the movie. DC just wants to capitalize on avengers and thanos
 

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Jeez, hold a grudge long? That was over 20 years ago. I'm not happy Bane broke Batman's back, but I'm not losing any sleep over that.
Don't misunderstand me. I don't care if Superman lives or dies. Them pretending to kill off perhaps the biggest character in comics simply to drive short term sales and bloating the market with umpteen parallel storylines and bullshit variant covers/bags just soured me on the industry. It opened my eyes to the atrocious art and criminally terrible writing along with all the major comics glutting their own market with crap titles. Sure, there are standouts (a number of the classic graphic novels come to mind) but by and large the rest was junk (and to a certain degree still is).

There are great writers and artists out there, and I objectively think the industry as a whole is slowly improving (especially on the art side, and I'm guessing technology is helping a lot). But there is and has been a lot of bad in it, and after a while I stopped seeing any point in throwing more money at them for the same recycled characters and stories. Especially when they like to pull one of their major 'upsets' every few years, which usually turns out to be less of an upset and often whatever changes they pulled gets retconned or changed back.
 

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It doesn't take much to push a PG-13 rated action movie to R. Early Avengers cuts were rated R because they showed a little too much blood when Coulson was stabbed. Don't expect some kind of murderous Superman popping heads off, more likely there was a little to much blood splatter when Batman punched 1 guy.
God I hate the fucking mpaa.