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So what are we arguing about? That there is crisis, or that we should keep the kids, or that we are been invaded? Which one?
 

Generol_sl

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So what are we arguing about? That there is crisis, or that we should keep the kids, or that we are been invaded? Which one?
Honestly I don't even know at this point. I'm just laughing at Vaclav while he has a coronary that someone isn't agreeing with his opinions while he contradicts himself, spams the rep button, can't follow simple source material, calls me "stupidest", misuses words, and is becoming increasingly more pissed. It's actually really humorous.
 

Vaclav

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Uh huh....

You seem like you are quickly losing your cool and becoming angry. I am starting to feel bad for you at this point watching you crumble so quickly.
I'm angry? Thanks for the (completely inaccurate) observation...

I'm completely not emotionally invested in this at all - you notice how my rudeness mirrored yours? Add myopic to stupid as well.

You've contradicted yourself at a number of points already, claim things as "fact" without actually doing any sourcing or verifying what's going on (seriously the "why" question was answered the FIRST link in my Google search - literally ANY research if you own a computer [which I'm sure you do, obviously] would've told you the "rumors in Guatemala/etc" bit) - but yet the minute you see anyone else POSSIBLY contradicting themselves because of lack of elaboration you criticize them for it and label them as wrong, declaring yourself as triumphant, completely ignorant to your own contradictions.

[Not to mention calling out those contradictions in others falsely - Why did Earnest contradict himself? Whoops.. that was a question he was asked not a statement he made... Why are you contradicting yourself about our media creating conspiracies when there's documented rumors circulating in these areas?]

Yawn. I think the algae in my fish tank might be able to out think you.

[PS - I personally don't care about immigration either way, I'd rather not spend any tax dollars on it in either direction though - tighten up SSN veracity so they can't abuse benefits and we'd be basically paying nil besides voluntary charities]
 

fanaskin

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vaclav is anal retentive, especially when he gets into "know it all" mode and starts talking to himself on a message board, wait until he starts citing his relatives as sources, it's a hoot.
 

Vaclav

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Honestly I don't even know at this point. I'm just laughing at Vaclav while he has a coronary that someone isn't agreeing with his opinions while he contradicts himself, spams the rep button, can't follow simply source material, calls me "stupidest", misuses words, and is becoming increasingly more pissed. It's actually really humorous.
My opinion is "Give it time to see how things work out" - our government isn't designed to make knee jerk responses for long term responses to things by design. This is a three week old or so "crisis" that has been mirrored many times in my lifetime already (third I can think of off my head) - all of which calmed down after around 2-3 months.

This whole "I need this answered NOW" nonsense with modern news cycle stuff is disgusting to me, this isn't something new, yet the response is completely hyperbolic and new.

PS - Stupidest is a word, and I'd consider it a quite accurate assessment of you from the posts and depth of thought you've elicited so far. Part one of making an intelligent analysis of something is to take opinions from multiple sides and form an opinion based upon that, not the echo chamber that you keep wanting to throw yourself into.
 

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So who is your favorite Vaclav relative source?

My favorite relative of his is the engineer that loved the solar roadways project.
 

Vaclav

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vaclav is anal retentive, especially when he gets into "know it all" mode and starts talking to himself on a message board, wait until he starts citing his relatives as sources, it's a hoot.
Wouldn't have anyone relative in this case (bro-in-law visited one of those nations six years ago, thats the best connection I'm aware of) - not that I've mentioned anyone in months now besides assholes prodding me about them. And screw me for having time on my hands sitting in a doctor's office, right? Guess I should play Angry Birds or something instead of wasting my time talking on a message board?
 

khalid

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Just having a bit of fun Vaclav, don't take it personal. Everyone has their quirks, I know I do. You use your relatives as sources for everything. Kruegen has the worst facebook friends on the internet, Burnem likes to follow Araysar around and insult anyone he is arguing with. Kirun just really hates women.

The variety is what makes this board fun.
 

fanaskin

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Wasn't there one that happened to know specific politicians we were talking about and he like emailed him questions and got responses between posts.
 

khalid

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If so, that is fucking awesome. I missed that one.
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Vaclav

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Just having a bit of fun Vaclav, don't take it personal. Everyone has their quirks, I know I do. You use your relatives as sources for everything. Kruegen has the worst facebook friends on the internet, Burnem likes to follow Araysar around and insult anyone he is arguing with. Kirun just really hates women.

The variety is what makes this board fun.
I realize that - but I've turned a leaf in that regard. Or trying to, but people KEEP DRAGGING THEM UP NOW. People stated it was annoying, so I stopped. Except responding to harassment on it.

"This is annoying Vac, stop it"... (finally listens after a couple months).... "Vac, it's so annoying when you do X".... GAH!

(PS - On the above prod - she is a electrical engineer with an internet focus to be fair, and I'm not sure she ever endorsed it, just linked it - but I do assume such links to funding stuff to be endorsements)
 

fanaskin

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Wouldn't have anyone relative in this case (bro-in-law visited one of those nations six years ago, thats the best connection I'm aware of) - not that I've mentioned anyone in months now besides assholes prodding me about them. And screw me for having time on my hands sitting in a doctor's office, right? Guess I should play Angry Birds or something instead of wasting my time talking on a message board?
I don't really care heh, I can just imagine the vein in your head swelling as the wall of text grows post after post, I like reading your critiques to be honest, just need to not whip yourself into such an impatient frenzy all the time imo.
 

Generol_sl

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I'm angry? Thanks for the (completely inaccurate) observation...

Clearly....

I'm completely not emotionally invested in this at all -you notice how my rudeness mirrored yours? Add myopic to stupid as well.

Hmm, not really as the very first comment you said was "So you don't read articles I take it?" but I guess that doesn't fall into the "rude" category to someone who is in fury mode. Myopic, eh? Again you are misusing words or were you saying that you are myopic because in that regard, I do agree as you are clearly narrow minded by calling someone "stupidest" and speculating on their viewing desires with absolutely nothing to substantiate the claim.

You've contradicted yourself at a number of points already, claim things as "fact" without actually doing any sourcing or verifying what's going on

Really?

(seriously the "why" question was answered the FIRST link in my Google search - literally ANY research if you own a computer

What "why" are we talking about here? Double talking and trying to put words into peoples mouths works when you're in your teens but doesn't when there is someone who you don't make nervous by your misrepresentation of facts, sites, words, and.... how can I forget.... fury.

[which I'm sure you do, obviously]

There you go assuming again.... Quite a method you have going there with speculations, insinuations and assumptions. I envy you. How I miss the days that "liar, liar, pants on fire" worked.

but yet the minute you see anyone else POSSIBLY contradicting themselves because of lack of elaboration you criticize them

Really? You may want to also add "criticize" to the list of words you need to learn too and while you're at it, be sure to reread what I said.

declaring yourself as triumphant

I don't think I have used this word since playing college baseball but there you go again with making up nonexistent material.

completely ignorant to your own contradictions.

Please, by all means, point out my "own contradictions" as I have been forth coming, fair, and even let you ramble for several posts before attacking you back (which is more than fair in reality). Also, please also add "ignorant" to the list of words you need to learn the definition of.

[Not to mention calling out those contradictions in others falsely - Why did Earnest contradict himself? Whoops.. that was a question he was asked not a statement he made... Why are you contradicting yourself about our media creating conspiracies when there's documented rumors circulating in these areas?]

Uhhh.... please tell me you are trolling with this statement.

Yawn. I think the algae in my fish tank might be able to out think you.

So are you saying you are an amoeba?

[PS - I personally don't care about immigration either way

Clearly.....

I'd rather not spend any tax dollars on it in either direction though - tighten up SSN veracity so they can't abuse benefits and we'd be basically paying nil besides voluntary charities

Thanks info.
I am almost scared to ask what you do for a living. Please tell me you have nothing to do with either helping others or handling the affairs of others.

Also, you may want to ask whatever junior college you attended for a refund as the superlative form of stupid is most stupid, as in I made the most stupid error. Likewise, the comparative form of stupid is more stupid, and the superlative form is most stupid. In fact, in general, -id words use more and most instead of -er and -est. Just because your... vast intellect has been using the word and it has recently been added to the dictionary does not make it a proper foundation of the English language and is more so in line with "ain't". Simple reasoning when it comes to word usage is "would I use this during an important discussion?" Most people would absolutely say no to that. For those of us who speak proper English and most certainly those of us in a career oriented field where words matter, slang exceptions would never be used. Point being, if you are attempting to convince other people that you are intelligent it is usually best to stick to the basics. But what do I know.... I'm just a guy who is in a bad mood because I missed my most recent Alex Jones episode.
 

Vaclav

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I don't really care heh, I can just imagine the vein in your head swelling as the wall of text grows post after post, I like reading your critiques to be honest, just need to not whip yourself into such an impatient frenzy all the time imo.
People always read me as angry when I'm not... most of the times I'm labeled as "angry" I'm actually bewildered at someone not seeing their own contradictions or otherwise just being mind-bogglingly stupid. (Self-contradiction being a big one for me)

Only times I truly get angry are when I have to repeat something for the Nth time. That's the only time I get pissed off. (And note, why I'm the worst teacher EVER)
 

Vaclav

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a) "Didn't read the article?" - Well you provided evidence that you might not have, you said "I hope that's only chickenpox and not something worse" (or something close to that not scrolling back) - when it was stated that the health officials thought it was chickenpox or scabies, for current issues that have a similar skin reaction that are known they're either parasite related or a pox variant that is well under control including in those parts of the world.

Is it rude to actually ask a question when someone elicits that they haven't by opening the theory to something worse than data presents? Data presented said chickenpox or scabies were the likely suspects - you implied other things should be possible as well which wasn't supported by the article.

b) So you want a problem to be dealt with and solved, but the "Why is this happening?" part of things doesn't matter? Solving a problem involves first identifying the cause to counter it at it's source rather than just playing Whack-a-Mole with the results from the source problem.

c) It's not a safe assumption that you own something capable of doing an internet search? How are you posting to these forums without an internet connected device that has a search engine? Yes, it is an assumption on my part - but it's a very safe one.

d) So you're trying to claim that your deflection of "the media is being conspiratorial in your concept as well" wasn't an attempt to critique my argument to undermine it? Criticize - "indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way."

e) On contradictions - Ellis Island "facts" of yours amongst other things. Implying immigration is a trivial process (13 years currently is what's coming up as the expected immigration timeframe I'm seeing on searches). Etc.

f) "Ignorant" - You have been blind to you contradicting yourself. "Lacking awareness of..." is a definition of ignorant.

g) Are you honestly saying a random reporter asking him a question means that he should take what that reporter said as absolute fact and temper his entire world view to that one question? (Of the probably dozens of major policy questions tugging multiple ways he gets almost every day)

h) Yes, "my fish tank" means it's my domicile, clearly not my possession.

i) Retired Human Resources professional with a MSHRM, retired early due to neurological issues. (turning 40 at the end of the year, saved well for my working years and my grandfather left a large trust) Planning to open a storefront after our move in the Spring however to supplement my income and replace my current disability income since to be frank. (And it should show with how involved in the forums and such I am - I'm bored out of my mind at home half the time - I could make less running the store and be a ton happier because I'm constantly bored - first two years or so was nice on the days I could manage my falls and such, but now its just boring...)
 

Generol_sl

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Is it rude to actually ask a question when someone elicits that they haven't by opening the theory to something worse than data presents?

Not at all but... let's also add the differences between a statement, sarcasm, and a question to your to do list as you said "So you don't read articles I take it?" which is different than what you are now claiming to have said with "Didn't read the article?" Is it that you don't realize it or are you truly trying this hard to be sneaky and have gotten away with it in the past? Regardless, the bottom line is you.... once again misrepresented yourself with the words you used to attempt to make yourself look better while deciding to overlook exactly what you said.

b) So you want a problem to be dealt with and solved, but the "Why is this happening?" part of things doesn't matter? Solving a problem involves first identifying the cause to counter it at it's source rather than just playing Whack-a-Mole with the results from the source problem.

When did I say I didn't want to know why it was happening? Again... misrepresentation and attempting to create a scenario to justify yourself. You must really have some low self esteem there buddy. These misrepresentations and outright conjured bologna coming out of you are mind boggling at best.

c) It's not a safe assumption that you own something capable of doing an internet search? How are you posting to these forums without an internet connected device that has a search engine? Yes, it is an assumption on my part - but it's a very safe one.

YES! You did it! Atta boy! You're on the right track now as, clearly, stating "[which I'm sure you do, obviously]" is an assumption. I'm so proud of you!

d) So you're trying to claim that your deflection of "the media is being conspiratorial in your concept as well" wasn't an attempt to critique my argument to undermine it? Criticize - "indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way."

Damnit! Faith lost.... You were so close too. When you randomly throw a temper tantrum, accuse someone of being a conspiracy theorist only to follow it immediately after with "because of their media falsely making claims that we are giving amnesty to anyone running from those areas" that puts you in a bit of a pickle as the pot meets the kettle.

e) On contradictions - Ellis Island "facts" of yours amongst other things. Implying immigration is a trivial process (13 years currently is what's coming up as the expected immigration timeframe I'm seeing on searches). Etc.

What Ellis Island "fact" did I state? My actual statement (and it has been unedited so feel free to verify) was "To my understand they broke those disqualified into two categories with one even being an epileptic. This actually raises a good question and I am going to research this because I actually would like to get some primary source material as I don't know the exacts." It appears we need to add "facts" to your to do list now too. What would you do without me! Also, when did I say immigration is a trivial process? Here we go again with you making up facts.

f) "Ignorant" - You have been blind to you contradicting yourself. "Lacking awareness of..." is a definition of ignorant.

Atta boy! Now be sure to remember that the next time you use it.

g) Are you honestly saying a random reporter asking him a question means that he should take what that reporter said as absolute fact and temper his entire world view to that one question? (Of the probably dozens of major policy questions tugging multiple ways he gets almost every day)

Heeeereee we go again with you conjuring a narrative. Did I once say that? Did I once even insinuate that? This is going to be a very difficult thing for you to do but go back and read the context which clearly is a compare and contrast scenario of two statements, by the same White House Press Secretary, that gives two vastly differing responses which was used as an example (another word for you to look up) to coincide with my statements about why I don't trust the current politicians.

h) Yes, "my fish tank" means it's my domicile, clearly not my possession.

Cool....

i) Retired Human Resources professional with a MSHRM, retired early due to neurological issues. (turning 40 at the end of the year, saved well for my working years and my grandfather left a large trust) Planning to open a storefront after our move in the Spring however to supplement my income and replace my current disability income since to be frank. (And it should show with how involved in the forums and such I am - I'm bored out of my mind at home half the time - I could make less running the store and be a ton happier because I'm constantly bored - first two years or so was nice on the days I could manage my falls and such, but now its just boring...)

Apparently I am not the first person to call you out on your bullshit. I was kind of hoping I was but apparently you truly the person you seem to be. Let me remind you in the case you had forgotten:

Here you are defending yourself from another "moron"

"Fuck you moron, I've always been a HR Professional specializing in openings for Wegman's (a privately held grocery chain) since I left executive hiring for Verizon Wireless decades ago. I hired everything from "Helping Hands" (our equivalent to baggers) up through Assistant Store Management between me and my secondary (the HR person I'd leave behind once I moved to the next opening), we always promoted from within for Top Store Management and the owners liked to make the final call on those so besides negotiating salary with a memo from the owner sitting in front of me I really wasn't truly involved."

Here you are with another "stupid" person:

"Oh my god... we released someone into the general population with something that is already relatively common in the US and incredibly easy to treat? THE HORROR.

The "cure" for scabies is generally azithromycin isn't it? You know like $5 without insurance type cheapass treatment? Not to mention the "disease" of it is itchy skin....

I think you've reached a new low for stupid articles. (Oh and of course generally a 4-6 week wait before symptoms show - so...)"

Here you are claiming to be a "HR Professional" while also claiming to be "retired" (hmmm...). Fear the grocery store "professional", they are top end.

No, I've got subscriptions to a bunch of things that do salary information. You know, being a HR professional and everything. I make sure to cite when I'm getting something from a person.

(And I'll note that the non-subscription ones like Payscale.com and such are actually worse than what I'm seeing on the professional one I use - they quote top end of Bachelor's degree paying $28/hr AKA $56k/yr assuming fulltime with the quick and dirty double and add a k method to salarying hourly)"

Here you are pretending like you know the law and how to apply it:

""Naturalization is the process by which U.S. citizenship is granted to a foreign citizen or national"

It's for changing citizenship, technically has nothing to do DIRECTLY with the topic of determining who's allowed to come here and live if they don't want to become a citizen. It's more about the hoops they have to do to be allowed to vote and get a SSN.

It's tangentially related in literal terms - but due to SC decision it is attached - but only because of SC decision - not because of the letter of the Constitution."

Look, the bottom line is you are an unemployed, social service connected, so very obviously poorly educated, non professional, defensive and malicious goober who thinks very highly of himself when, in truth, he is simply a product living off the tax payer while pretending like he once mattered. You want to go round and round? Have at it, you have proven yourself to attempt to get your way through deception, fabrication, and an unfathomably high level of assumption which, in every case I read, is spurned on by someone having a differing stance than you do. So I'm simply going to throw you away for now with a potential to bend you over again in a scenario by which you may have learned (by then) something and posed even a slight challenge as I didn't even touch on politics, the law, or anything viable but simply used your own words against you. You are... quite literally a useless resource to society and while you may convince yourself that I'm another one of your "morons" to feel better, we both know it's true as a 40 year old man who worked at a grocery store and takes offense to people bringing it up would be similar to me taking on a retarded gerbil. If you feel that living off the back of your Grandfather or living off the taxpayers when you haven't achieved anything substantial in life is the way to go for you, have fun with that. I fully expect you to furiously attempt to rep bang me (it won't bother me), I fully expect you to try to conjure up some bologna again and I fully expect you to continue your hate life campaign on other people but, just remember, most of our lives actually matter or mattered and we don't have to pretend we did something to feel better about ourselves... The sad truth is that if you weren't such an asshat and presented your side as a logical human being and didn't try to make shit up like it actually existed than you would likely both get your point across and also people may actually pity the sad story of a 40 year old man who was associated with a grocery store but now has a neurological issue. As it stands though, all you do is attempt to make yourself look superior, try to cut down others for their opinions and throw the negative kitchen sink and everything therein to get your way. I have never used this phrase before but I simply cannot resist saying that you are a TRUE born loser. From your behavior to your logic to your inflated delusions to your attempts at deceptions/manipulations to your pathetic life story. Perhaps you would feel better if you got involved with the Special Olympics and competed for something? There has to be some type of competition that would accept 40 year old unemployed men with a low grade background and a trust from his Grandfather. Look into it bud.... you'll feel better.

You can go now. You have my permission to do so.
 

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The invasion has already begun! I was in downtown Miami this weekend and almost nobody spoke English.