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DoctorSpooge_sl said:

And grats, Leto!

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Thanks Bro

I assume that was SRS+ gate? Something I noticed with my pulls earlier that seems to be true for yours too......all my pulls (even though they were duuuuuupes), were all 7-star potential units. Some legacy units like Edea/Will, but some 'newer' ones like an Oracle Quaid...but all had 7-star potential.

Felt almost a little like the God Gate except with legacy 7-star units too heh. I know there is nothing about that gate that should make it that good, but the 5-star minimum really does help spin the odds in favor of higher tier units (or at least seems to enough to make a difference) maybe.


And seriously though, if I could borrow your luck for like, 10 minutes? I swear I'd give it right back.

I'm still trying to figure out what I think of Sixgear. I hear folks talk about him like he was one of the better pulls to get from that batch, but I'm not sure I see it. I'd like to see his potential so I can make proper use of it someday heh. I do hear that some folks are using him for Imp farming now that they removed the Metal Gods, but I'm not sure what support/spheres/imps he'd need to make it work fastest. 1 Fujin should be all he'd ever need per run though.

Hatsune Miku is capturable in the Vortex atm, and she is upgradable to 6-stars.


Her Vortex is gonna be up for 2 weeks, but If anyone is still up and reading this tonight, I'd recommend farming out some notes for them while the evo dungeon is still up tonight.


Edit: and apparently captured Miku's sell for 700 points at the Achivement store too (until they "fix" it), so can literally farm achievement points Not entirely sure how worth it it is, I'd need to capture and cash in 12 Miku's @ 700 points each to pay for a single Legend Stone.

Edit 2: Good HP's on her Anima 6-star if you care to farm typing out. Decent 6-star stats otherwise.

39 Hits, 39 Dropcheck on her SBB gives her nice Frontier Hunter potential......kinda crap skills besides that though.

I am definitely gonna farm some tomorrow.

Edit 3: Looks like she doesn't need the Earth Tones/Notes to evolve? from 4 to 5 to 6? Slightly confused about the Tones or why they even exist if they aren't being used heh

meh, not sure what I was hoping for, but I just dropped 180 Energy going after Miku on level 3 with no results.

...and I swear to god when her dungeon first came up last night, it had 4 levels, not 3.

By the time I get an Anima Miku, I will have developed a seething hatred of the very sight of her anyway, which will have defeated the purpose of the entire endeavor.

I don't know what the capture rates are, but they gods damned sure feel significantly lower than any other Level 3 "capture" vortex I've ever run across.

If it is just "bad luck" I'm getting pretty goddamn tired of it.

I officially (truly) quit a few days ago. It's been real, guys.

Got tempted by the earth bonus. Pulked 10 times for libera. No libera. Got krantz (b), quaid (g) and tazer. That'll do. I guess now to wait for nadore.

Holy crap.....I don't visit here for 2 days and the whole place has gone to pot!

Doc drops the mic for good...Ao- (poor bastard) manages to have even worse luck with Miku than my own, and Ishad (I'm shocked at you. SHOCKED.) summons during a Non-Rateup?

I am bewildered, dumbfounded and mystified.

DoctorSpooge_sl said:

I officially (truly) quit a few days ago. It's been real, guys.

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Damn, I wish you the best Doc. It was fun while it lasted - gonna miss you around here. Some Good Times.

Ao-_sl said:

Ran once, got a guardian Miku. Ran 35 times since, not a single capture.

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Ugh. I wasn't counting, but while I'm sure it took me more than 35 times to finally capture an Anima, I ended up getting several other Miku's along the way (honestly, I think I have like 12 Miku's in my inventory right now, wasn't until the dozen'th capture that I finally got an Anima version. Either way, if you are wanting to use her for Frontier Hunter, don't give up....you'll get her.

Ishad_sl said:

Got tempted by the earth bonus. Pulked 10 times for libera. No libera. Got krantz (b), quaid (g) and tazer. That'll do. I guess now to wait for nadore.

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I have no words for you Ishad.

Except this one: "GRATS!!" lol Awesome pull on the Krantz even if it wasn't what you were going for.

I am very seriously considering following in your footsteps tomorrow during the +Light bonus....it isn't just Krantz, I've been steadily becoming more and more aware of my need for Kira. He is niche, sure, but gods damn he is powerful as all hell within that niche.


Running level 1-20 in Frontier Gate with my usual go-to all-purpose whoop-ass-and-stay-alive-while-doing-it group, I scored a maximum of about 1.67M points. I put together a Quaid+ Light/Dark group with a Kira friend and got 2.1M on Manual and 1.9-2.0M Auto (which was better than I expected on auto).

....that said, I still hear folks talking about well put-together groups scoring in the ballpark of 4M+ points on the very same thing, and I'm barely pulling half that. I've come to the conclusion that I suck pretty bad at Frontier Hunter too. This most recent one even with a lot of really ass-ripping DPS and high-hitcount units, I still only managed to get a +2. I placed at ~12,500th or so, so not *that* far from a +3....If I was willing to use even 2, maybe 3 gems @3 orbs each, I'm sure that would have put me at a +3, but I wasn't willing to do that.

My scores are always 'solid' (I think I danced around the 1.6M mark most of the time for a bit over 300k points worth or so), but that just isn't good enough at +2 it would take me years to climb that ladder. Frankly, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or what to do about it. It isn't going to stop me from trying to do better, but besides trying to get a Kira and explorer the options that opens up, I'm not sure what else to do.


I did pull a Guardian Reed earlier without *too* much hassle. Going to collect non-oracle versions of the Vortex units available over the next 6 days. I have an "Anything but Oracle" Policy on Vortex units for collection purposes unless I have a very specific use for them (for instance: Miku potentially being a very usable Frontier Hunter unit, so I wanted an Anima and will probably set aside a Guardian, at least for now, too just because I have some heh)

I did finally reach this personal milestone:

Not gonna bother cropping a long quote on my phone but re: the good times - yeah, awesome stuff and I'll miss it. Honestly what did me in was my ridiculous luck. I never got the unit I wanted at any given time, but I got quality pulls all the time, and it became so frequent that all I really wanted was also what I HAD to have. Zenia, Edea, Krantz, Glyph, Kafka, etc. I'd do a pull and get a Dion, do another and get a Bestie, another and a Quaid, another and a Ruby, another and another Bestie.

It fucking sucked. I was getting extraordinarily good sub-optimal pulls and a few days ago realized that it wasn't really the case anymore that I could summon and not get what I want but still come away happy. There'd never be a rateup where I'd want enough of the units since they don't do batch rateups anymore, and I can't sit on my gems indefinitely like some of you can.

So it was either start paying again or quit.

I was going to do 10 summons.....my first 5 were lucky enough that I was feeling optimistic so I did 15 summons instead (which literally left me with 3 gems to spare, not happy about that, but I was being impulsive at that point - at this point all the units I was saving gems for are already in the game). I should have stopped at the first 5 summons, the 10 after that sucked.

Long story short: No Krantz for me.


Short story long: 6 of the 18 units were units I didn't already have. 1 unit I had, but got better typing on. 11 of 18 got summary executions.

I found Ishad's Libera (I'd trade her for the Krantz if I could heh)...got good typing on her, will be interesting to see her in action. I **did** get the Kira I was looking for, and in good typing too, so I am happy about that. I also got better typing on Aurelia: I'd be comfortable fully Imp'ing the new Aurelia if I decide to go that route....pretty goddamn rare to actually be *happy* about a dupe, but I'm happy with the new Aurelia. Got a Breaker Toutetsu (was never pulling for him, but he seems solid, so glad to have him around.) Other units I got but didn't already have: Nalmika (Tora Junior? wasn't familiar with this unit - usually not a good sign) Oracle Alice (lousy typing, but I've been wanting an Alice - getting Libera on the same day really rains on her parade though.)

I got a Vernil - I don't know what they nerfed about him (I thought it was just some out of control status infliction they had to fix/tune or something?) but he looks bloody **HORRIBLE**, as in, I don't know wtf anyone would use him anywhere. No niche at all. Did they just remove status completely from his BB/SBB or something? His BB does *nothing* else besides strait damage? seriously? even 5-star units have *something* on their BB's besides just a plain ol' damage modifier.....and his SBB is just a 3-hit AoE with a Lava'esque 200% BB buff? For a newer unit that is goddamn horrendous. I guess he used to (or still does?) do status infliction on BB/SBB in Japan BF? I don't know what they did to him, but it baffles me how bad he is atm.


15 summons and +3 bonus: I marched 11 of the 18 strait to the funeral pyres. Because they were 5-star minimum, they traded in @1,000 points each, which, when added to what I already had, gave me enough to buy the Prized Light sphere (25,000 points = 3 more Legend Stones I won't be able to afford, but if it helps me with newer Trials/GGC's and such, then I hope it will be worth it)

Between Libera, Kira and Toutetsu, and better typing on Aurelia, I got a handful of units that will see some use (Toutetsu, maybe not so much, but in his case mostly because there are only so many units that you can squeeze into one group and in spite of being a solid unit, he's always going to be one of the ones that just never quite makes the cut - and also because when vying for an Arena ATK Leader position, Hadaron stole his lunch and ate it right in front of him (besides that, for the Arena, I still use Quaid anyway,) so Toutetsu is already like 3rd in line, and will be 4th after Michele's 7 star eventually shows up) - Still, overall, one hell of a lot better than I've been doing for a while, so all-in-all I guess I'm pretty satisfied with my summons for a change.

Libera, Kira and my new-and-improved Aurelia are the units that saved my day. (Oh, and did I mention that those 3, were the 3 I got as Animas? Hooooo-leeeeee-sheeeeeiiit)

Vernil was bugged so he was able to status inflict mobs that were immune. So you could paralzye any unit, breaking trials and such. He's basically like reis, he's good at what he does but they went ahead and immediately released a better version of him in kafka.

Libera is awesome and fits into how zenia and tridon impact the meta. Rhoa's main advantage over zenia is his 30%hp and elemental buffs. Libera covers the same elemental but buffs and has def/rec boosts on her bb. Great for synergy with aurelia. She has the same downside of aurelia which is not being auto battle friendly as her counter part nadore. You're basically a krantz away from a perfect raid team.

Boss not crit immune? Zenia/griff leads, mitigator, aurelia, libera, hadron (for focusing parts)

Grats on the pulls, summon+ definitely had the best rates on 7*s I've seen.

Ishad_sl said:

Vernil was bugged so he was able to status inflict mobs that were immune. So you could paralzye any unit, breaking trials and such. He's basically like reis, he's good at what he does but they went ahead and immediately released a better version of him in kafka.

Libera is awesome and fits into how zenia and tridon impact the meta. Rhoa's main advantage over zenia is his 30%hp and elemental buffs. Libera covers the same elemental but buffs and has def/rec boosts on her bb. Great for synergy with aurelia. She has the same downside of aurelia which is not being auto battle friendly as her counter part nadore. You're basically a krantz away from a perfect raid team.

Boss not crit immune? Zenia/griff leads, mitigator, aurelia, libera, hadron (for focusing parts)

Grats on the pulls, summon+ definitely had the best rates on 7*s I've seen.

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Thanks.

From what I can gather on the Vernil situation, instead of fixing his bugged skills on the spot, they simply removed them from the game altogether with the promise of putting his skills back once they have them fixed......they just haven't yet. So now he's in the game but absent are his signature skills - he is a shell of his former self until/unless they ever get around to making him whole again.

Libera definitely shakes up my game. One of my first thoughts was that she pretty much immediately retires Kikuri in nearly all situations outside of the Arena due to her BC fill when attacked while still having a better toolbox of other skills to work with. One of my second thoughts was that I want Vesti a *little* less (I still throw up in my mouth a little every time I call her "Bestie") even though Vesti is still the undisputed Queen of BC (and all around amazing)....and I want Griff more, as his complimentary elemental retyping is the perfect fit. (...and he is a friggin' Beast.) ....but not so much more because technically Griff will always work better with my lineup as a Friend Leader.

...The one thing that didn't change is that Krantz is still far, far and away #1 on my Most Wanted list.

If anything I want Krantz even more now than I did before, and I hardly thought that possible.

While it is true Libera isn't quite as auto-battle friendly as some (at least if you are depending on her for Stat Buffs), I actually don't mind that as much as I used to. Characters with completely different sets of skills on their BB's and SBB's have the potential to be outlandishly powerful. The +20% BC/HC is slightly annoying....at this point it feels like 30% should be the minimum for new units. But those are First World Problems to have heh.


Griff got all the hype from this batch, but I still don't see how anyone but Krantz is the true MVP. That character is amazing on every level.


My patience is being tested though, waiting to rank up these characters. Without half-energy in the Vortex I'm not going to run any Mega-Metal or Imp parades, that leaves waiting for the next Super Honor Summons, which is still more than a week off at the very very earliest. (More if Gumi decides to troll us again.) It'll be worth the wait, but damn it is almost cruel lol

It doesn't help any that Krantz generally works best as a Sub. Unlike other mitigators, he actually does have decent leadership skills, but there are much better sets of leadership skills to chose from nowadays. So once again, it is a "Get your own or do without" mitigator situation.

At least with Griff and Vesti, I can use friend leads and not be missing nearly as much when I didn't get 'em





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Editing this in rather than making 3 posts in a row heh

During 2x EXP, I've been leveling 2x a day. Once in the morning, then regen exp all day and once again in the evening - on the evening level up, I drop my re-loaded energy bar on Change the World again (which gets me ~60% into the next level, give or take a little)....regen energy while I sleep and wake up with enough energy to level up again the next morning...... Rinse. Repeat.

The problem with that is that I don't get to really farm honor like I'd like. I'm looking at ~250k exp per level now, so when 2x experience isn't on (or half energy vortex on a Monday), I don't even *try* to get exp. At all. I'll spend my energy on pretty much anything else besides experience farming.

In practical terms, Honor would benefit me a LOT more than experience. (I need sphere frogs in the worst way, even at <1% chance at a sphere frog from a Super Honor Summons is worth far more than levels at this point) But for whatever reason, the idea of interrupting that 2 levels-a-day cycle pains the hell out of me. I guess it is because as soon as 2x exp stops, my levels freeze in place until 2x comes back again....doesn't matter that levels don't really help me anymore....something in my gamer DNA makes them an imperative. It feels odd to be in a situation where gaining levels is actually *hurting* my progress heh

Ao-_sl said:

Managed to get both Breaker and Anima of the singer, so I'm done there....

I evoed my Michele and she is lights out in Arena. I'm talking total redonk. It sucked to blow the 8k for a legend stone, but that was my dumb choice.
I don't have a crabby, but my melchio is pert near evo status (fucking metal mimics).

I'm trying to convert my medullas to legwands (and convert them to malice and malice to buffer), but fucking hell how do you hold all of the parts!

edit: ugh, how do you need sphere frogs? Are you really rocking that many awesome units? I've got 29 units double sphered, and I'm sitting on 8 sphere frogs in inventory and 2 more waiting to be claimed from the daily work reward.

Time to focus on the X trials (after finishing Cardes), though I might clear through the rest of RC5 first.

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Grats on the Michele. Mine is still sitting at 6-stars, but I'm not going to evolve her until the next SHS....really looking forward to her though.

I had to go and count, but it looks like I have 37 units sphered (that includes a 6-star Grah, 6-star Xie'Jing, a 6-star Tridon (the one I had before I got my Anima Tridon @ 7-stars) a 6-star Lario, and a 6-star Rowgen amongst others)....I ended up sphere'ing 2 Selenas and 2 Elimos (In selena's case, the 2nd was an Anima I wanted to keep permanent, and in Elimos case the 2nd was a Lord Elimo I fully Imp'd)....so numerous 6-stars amongst the bunch and some others that were just plain wasted. 37 sphere frogs used for units on my current roster and maybe 2? ish, that I used but sold/fused away, like the old Selena after I got her Anima replacement. My problem is that I've got numerous units either already at, or ready to be at 7-stars that are NOT sphere'd.

(Between 2 Selenas, 2 Elimos and 2 Tridons.....what is it about water units that makes me waste sphere frogs?)

I'm not exaggerating when I say I could use a dozen sphere frogs *this morning* and STILL be out. My Michele, Anima Aurelia, Libera, Kira, are the units I'd most want to sphere atm, but can't.....others that don't have spheres include Toutetsu, Sagavehl, Kanon, Will, Lava, Magnazorda, Vernil, Alice...Breaker Edea (to replace my shitstain Oracle),....and I'm not even counting a handful of non-Selena starters I haven't even been thinking about burning sphere frogs/legend stones on.

In addition to those, there are another dozen older legacy units on my roster than have announced 7-star versions that will be needing both Legend Stones and sphere frogs.

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Me looking at my Brave Frontier account is like looking through a catalog of my bad decisions.

As far as buying Legend Stones - that is only ever a bad decision if you are wasting them (which I've clearly done before).....but even if I didn't waste any, I'd be far behind on them. Spending 8k points on a Legend Stone for a Michele are points very well spent imo.

Honestly, at one point I felt like I was rich with sphere frogs....for a while I had 10+ sphere frogs unused and on-hand...It was to the point where I felt they were just accumulating and wasting space, so eventually I decided to start sphere'ing up any of my units to hit 7-stars (whether I was actively using them or not - that was a *HUGE* mistake), and the most used/useful 6-stars I had - at the time it seemed like the right decision, but in retrospect, I really wish I had been more conservative with how I spent my sphere frogs. Now, between the units I have that already need sphere frogs and the units I have that are *going* to need sphere frogs, I am so far behind on them that I'm going to be behind on sphere frogs for the foreseeable future and beyond.

I've switched to full-on Honor farming since my last post to try to help my situation. Right now I have enough Honor points for 350 Summons, but my 2nd week of "Double" Honor will be more productive than my first.....so barring something keeping me from the game entirely this week, I should be looking at a crap-ton of summons available. I just have to hope for some good luck on sphere frogs once the next Super Honor Summons rolls around.

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Regarding the Medullas - I literally *just* did that myself over the last 2 days lol....I was only missing Queen/Dark jewels and one other thing to craft 2 Legwands. It felt a shame to just let them sit at Medullas....those 2 will be the last Legwands I ever craft....in the future the only Legwands I'll ever use will be from Frontier Hunter rewards.

That said, the only gems I've never ever regretted spending were the ones I used to expand Item/Unit space. You know exactly what you are getting and it lasts forever. Huge Quality-of-Life improvement to be able to carry all the crafting materials/Evo units you need and not be struggling for space.

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Before tackling the X-Trials, I *would* recommend finishing RC5 first, as the sphere you get for doing so will be of enormous value when doing the Trials. Once you get both of those under your belt, you'll really be rockin' the Big Leagues.

Grats again on the Michele (and the Anima Miku!) I'm really anxious to see my own in action.

Finished crafting 3 occult treasures and 4 revelation books. Not sure I'll convert any more buffers to occults, definitely a hassle outside of drop up events.

New map, ggq, level up rewards and ark trial tomorrow. Ark requires a legend stone to evolve.

Ishad_sl said:

Finished crafting 3 occult treasures and 4 revelation books.

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Nice!!


I'm about to switch to Buffer Crafting (Nevermind Occult Treasures and Revelation Books lol)

Ark requiring a Legend Stone really blows. Global needs to either up the amount of points we can get or give more events with Legend Stones as rewards or something.

I'm curious to see if there are any good surprises in the Level up Rewards (or if it is just another assortment of Burst Emperors and Crescent Dews and the like)....either way it will be damn welcome. ....I'm still holding out a tiny little glimmer of hope that Shida will return to the Level up rewards at some point. I don't expect it, but godsdamn, I'd love it.

Personally I'm going to put off new maps/trials, and anything else that costs more than 3 energy a pop until after Double Honor is over. It took me posting here, putting into words how stupid I was being by just going after experience during double honor for me to change my ways - now I'm treating my Sphere Frog situation as if I'm in full-on Crisis Mode....nothing but Honor farming for the SHS gate for sphere frogs until Double Honor is over for me at this point.