Wrong on so many levels, unless that man is both black and really scrawny.
Fat women are the worst; they ride like a waterbed full of wet jello when you are fucking them, and they get sticky in all the wrong spots.
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Fat women are the worst; they ride like a waterbed full of wet jello when you are fucking them, and they get sticky in all the wrong spots.
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And they're just aesthetically unappealing. Fat looks gross, and I'm speaking as someone who needs to lose 15kg.
We had a male soldier claim rape after he realized what a mistake he had when being drunk and sleeping with a female soldier. He is going through counseling and will probably get 40-60% medical disability when he leaves the military for the "PTSD" of this supposed rape.
He did it because of some video they made us watch saying that no matter what if you are male or female you cannot legally give consent if drunk so it is always rape ....
Rape is being downplayed because of bullshit like this and not all this crap about male privilege.
He did it because of some video they made us watch saying that no matter what if you are male or female you cannot legally give consent if drunk so it is always rape ....
Rape is being downplayed because of bullshit like this and not all this crap about male privilege.
Cad
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Innocent until proven guilty and the standard of evidence are two different things; one idea states that the accusing side whether they be the prosecutor in a criminal case or the plaintiff in a civil case must prove the other side guilty or liable for whatever they are complaining of. The other states how exhaustive the evidence must be to prove that complaint in that particular type of case. Both civil and criminal courts have the idea of innocent until proven guilty. The bringer of the case must prove their case in both instances.
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Yeah, shes also ignoring the very accusation of rape is life altering. It doesn't matter if you win or lose the case. Public opinion assumes guilt, unless there is real compelling evidence publicly known to counter it.
In fact, remember that retarded infographic, which claims only 5 out of 100 rapists go to jail? Wherein it calls EVERYONE accused theoretically(it doesn't even account for 1 person committing multiple rapes.), a rapist, and only those proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, "not guilty" in court as actually innocent? Charges dropped? Rapist. Charges never filed? Rapist. Mistrial? Rapist.
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This is some retarded fucking logic, right here. Let's look at a hypothetical of a sober male fucking a somewhat drunk female. It's consensual, but female complains a week later after regretting her decision. Male gets thrown out on that basis. You say that's okay because alcohol was involved. Yet the male wasn't drinking. So now he not only has to assume responsibility for the female's poor choice of sexual partner/situation, he's also responsible for her drinking?
This is fucking idiotic, and you should be embarrassed that the above had to be pointed out to you.
Anyone with half a brain knows that 90% of the people being kicked out due to these policies will be males.Mist_sl said:
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There are people that are going to get completely fucked because there will be neo-feminists that think they are smashing the patriarchy by getting men kicked out of school. And the policy itself is retarded.
A retarded policy with limitless potential for abuse? Talk about win win.
A retarded policy with limitless potential for abuse? Talk about win win.
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We'll make our own education system. With blackjack. And hookers.
By actively driving good men away from the cause what you'll be left with is bad women. Every generation of feminist has understood this. Except for this most recent one. It is annoying, it is stupid, an luckily it is self defeating. I only regret that I have to listen to it in the meantime.
By actively driving good men away from the cause what you'll be left with is bad women. Every generation of feminist has understood this. Except for this most recent one. It is annoying, it is stupid, an luckily it is self defeating. I only regret that I have to listen to it in the meantime.
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She would have to prove that more likely than not she was raped. That seems pretty hard to prove if it's a lie. You guys seem to be under the impression that it's really easy to prove a false rape accusation, when it's not.
Your example also doesn't even match my example if the male wasn't drunk. My example was specifically for when both parties are drunk and there's an accusation of misconduct. In fact, all of my posts were in reply to that one specific example posed a few pages back where both parties are drunk.
The only thing I was trying to say was that if one can establish with likelihood that sexual misconduct occurred, and both parties were drunk, that the only fair thing to do is force both parties to leave. I said this because I thought this would lower the number of false accusations, if the accuser had to leave if they admitted to being willingly drunk and underage.
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Mist, hypothetical here.
Male is sober, female is moderately intoxicated. Sex occurs, whether consensual or not, but the female doesn't physically resist so there are no signs of assault other than being able to confirm sex did occur. Afterwards, the female reports a rape, examination is conducted and they are able to confirm sex occurred, perhaps it was rough sex but other than the sex, the female was not harmed. Male claims it was consensual. How do you "prove" the rape? And in a preponderance of the evidence hearing, whats going to happen when it is he-said she-said? She can make out a prima facie case with her testimony, but the counter-evidence would be equal since it's all just direct testimony no exhibits or circumstantial evidence.
Whats the outcome here?
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Thanks Cad, better than I could say it.
You are fucking kidding yourself if you think that both the male and female are going to get booted in such situations. Completely deluded, in fact. The male is going to get booted and his life ruined, the girl is going to get referred to sexual violence support services.Mist_sl said:
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I was trying to think of a way to limit the abuse by making the accuser take responsibility for their own drunkenness.
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You're talking about a new example.
In this case the accuser's testimony is less likely valid given the fact that she was admittedly drunk and the accused was not. Therefore no way you can have a preponderance of the evidence in that instance. You would need a third party to bring evidence against the accused.
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I work at a university where drinking has historically been a very large problem. For decades it was because of very permissive attitudes. Once zero tolerance alcohol bans were put in place, things changed for a little while, but then the administration stopped caring about it again.
My school is basically a giant scam. They admit MASSIVE numbers of out-of-state freshman (nearly 60% of our undergraduates are freshman) every year, mostly from NJ and Long Island, make them pay huge on-campus housing rates, let them party themselves into oblivion, then flunk them out and replace them with new freshmen the next year. Every year they admit less and less in-state students and students who are actually there to learn.
Because, you know, then they'd actually have to teach them, and the professors would rather do research all year and sip drinks on the beach all summer than actually make lesson plans. Meanwhile the administration pays themselves massive amounts of money (which come from tax dollars) to do absolutely nothing about any of these problems.
Basically, if you spent all day surrounded by Jersey Shore casting rejects, you would hate alcohol too.
Cad
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Its almost like they give students an opportunity to learn, and those that don't take advantage of that opportunity are replaced. You're right, that does sound like an asinine system. We need to have nannies to ensure everyone succeeds.
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