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Arbitrary

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Brown University Department of Public Safety - About the Department

All sworn officers are authorized to enforce state statutes and University rules and regulations. All of our sworn police officers are armed.
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Alright, so Brown can make and enforce its own laws except the Brown University Department of Public Safety doesn't ever say university laws. It says university rules and regulations. It says that multiple times.

When I try to Google something like "laws of Brown University" or "Brown University laws" nothing comes up. Since Brown University is fully empowered to make their own laws where do I find them? They have to have at least made a few.
 
Mist

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Arbitrary_sl said:
Brown University Department of Public Safety - About the Department

Alright, so Brown can make and enforce its own laws except the Brown University Department of Public Safety doesn't ever say university laws. It says university rules and regulations. It says that multiple times.

When I try to Google something like "laws of Brown University" or "Brown University laws" nothing comes up. Since Brown University is fully empowered to make their own laws where do I find them? They have to have at least made a few.
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Basically the state gives them the legal authority to enforce all state laws and enforce their own rules and regulations AS IF they were laws. Violations of those rules and regulations result in actual arrests with full legal arrest power.

It is an extremely weird legal loophole. Apparently it's been a big fucking deal for like 40 years that the universities even have some of these powers. See the whole thing I posted about how they have the legal authority to suspend the Second Amendment and arrest people with state permits to legally own and carry guns... somehow... magically.
 
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Arbitrary_sl said:
So they can't make laws.
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But they can make up their own rules and regulations, enforce them as laws, and lock you up in jail and put you on trial for breaking them.

Regardless, we weren't talking about MAKING laws. We were talking about enforcing the legal drinking age. Which they most certainly can do, since they have full independent control over their own LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

You seem to be confusing law making body with law enforcement agency.
 
Agraza

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Seems like URI is a bit different from my understanding of universities. Seems like apples and oranges to discuss uni life between what URI is and what most universities are.
 
Mist

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Arbitrary_sl said:
Right, so nothing you've said has been accurate for the last few pages.
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What the fuck are you even talking about?

You said the university wasn't its own law ENFORCEMENT agency. To which I proved that they do have their own law enforcement agencies, and that they have full legal power to enforce all state laws AND enforce their own rules and regulations AS IF they were state laws. Including rules and regulations that suspend the Fucking Constitution of the United States.

If enforcing all state law, enforcing all your own rules AS laws, and suspending the Fucking Constitution of the United States doesn't qualify as being its own LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, then I don't know what does.
 
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Arbitrary_sl said:
You've said nothing accurate in the last few pages is what I'm talking about.
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Because you fucking say so?

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The university is not a law enforcement agency.
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Brown University Department of Public Safety - About the Department

"The Brown Department of Public Safety is a fully-accredited police department through the Commission on the Accreditation of Law Enforcement Agencies (CALEA), which administers a rigorous accreditation process whereby law enforcement agencies must adhere to over 440 standards, codes and state-of-the-art practices.

The Department of Public Safety is a full-service Law Enforcement Agency that provides a wide array of police and public safety services to the Brown Community."

So it's a department of the university AND it's a law enforcement agency. So you're fucking wrong.
 
Arbitrary

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"Department" in the phrase "Department of Public Safety" does not have the same meaning as "department" in the phrase "Brown University Department of History."

The police are the police. The university is the university. The fat misanthrope is the fat misanthrope.

I don't know why this isn't clear.
 
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Keyword is independent. Somehow it was missed 3 pages ago. Independent should mean the university has no control over it. They are just renting space. Unless independent means something else.
 
Agraza

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Off-topic of the ass cancer y'all are engaging in, but why is wearing blackface automatically racist? Is wearing a mask of Obama also racist? I was thinking of that chick that dressed up as crazy eyes for halloween. How was that remotely racist? Crazy eyes is black, and so she tried to appear black to improve her costume. In what way does this imply that she feels black skinned people are an inferior kind of being?
 
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Keyword is independent. Somehow it was missed 3 pages ago. Independent should mean the university has no control over it. They are just renting space. Unless independent means something else.
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Independent means independent of the state or the surrounding town, with no county level government, not independent of the school.
 
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Arbitrary_sl said:
"Department" in the phrase "Department of Public Safety" does not have the same meaning as "department" in the phrase "Brown University Department of History."

The police are the police. The university is the university. The fat misanthrope is the fat misanthrope.

I don't know why this isn't clear.
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Nope, you're wrong. It's adepartment of the university, in the EXACT same way that the Boston Police Department is a Department of the City of Boston.

The URI and Brown police forces are not members of the state police force, and they're not town police, and there are no county police or county sheriffs in RI or any other New England state.

The campus police are full police forces that are also departments of the universities, and act at the discretion of the universities.
 
khalid

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The point is Mist, your college is clearly an outlier. You apparently have the worst professors in the world, since even to pass their classes the students have to cheat. By your own words, your entire campus is a scam. Your campus police department is also apparently living by their own rules.

Now, if I buy that (which honestly, I think you are full of shit, but whatever), that makes your campus clearly not indicative of anything. Yet you seem to be basing all your ideas on colleges and justice on them with that college in mind. You really should get out more, get some more life experiences, and stop judging everything by the one example you know about and ignoring everything else.
 
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Whether the campus has its own law enforcement agency (which ours do, and basically all large campuses do, regardless of where their legal authority actually comes from) is completely pointless to the fact that campuses are not enforcing FEDERAL law, aka, the drinking age.
 
khalid

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You missed the temperance movement by about a 100 years. Also, again, stop acting like all campuses are the same as your shitty strawman one. Not a SINGLE PERSON believes you that freshman at your school are required to cheat to pass. That is total bullshit and sounds like it was made up by someone that failed abunch of freshman classes for being a slacker and had to blame someone else.
 
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Dealing with the fact that professors can't teach their students is my job.

They turn a blind eye to the cheating culture because if their students failed even more it would make them look bad.
 
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Wow, Arbitrary, are you trying to snag the "Worst Shit-posting in an Argument Award" from Hodj? I never thought anyone could stoop lower than his abrasive, ferociously obnoxious and ultimately completely misguided attempts at "debate", but you are getting really, really close.
 
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