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Arbitrary · Jul 19, 2014

Mist_sl said:
But we do know what instincts the primates we evolved from had. Is this going over your head?

No, we don't.

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Does Mist think we evolved from Chimps? hahahahaha

Mist · Jul 19, 2014

Jive Turkey_sl said:
......are you talking about Chimpanzees???

And other primates. So we can extrapolate what biological instincts that early humans would have had.

Arbitrary · Jul 19, 2014

Jive Turkey_sl said:
......are you talking about Chimpanzees???

Mist has gone and confused the primates of today that we can observe with the ancestors we share with those primates from hundreds of millions of years ago.

We have no way of knowing what instincts were present in early humans and how those instincts changed over time. We have no way of knowing what instincts were present in their ancestors and how those instincts evolved over time. You can't compare two different species that evolved along entirely different paths and claim humans have lost almost all of our instincts because a species that evolved along an entirely different path is different than us.

Mist_sl said:
And other primates. So we can extrapolate what biological instincts that early humans would have had.

The fucking fuck you can. You can't fucking say a monkey today is the same as a monkey from forever ago.

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Mist_sl said:
And other primates. So we can extrapolate what biological instincts that early humans would have had.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy fuck. You've got to be kidding me. Help yourself to a biology book because you sound like a fucking retard

Mist · Jul 19, 2014

Jive Turkey_sl said:
Does Mist think we evolved from Chimps? hahahahaha

No, obviously chimps diverged from a shared common ancestor. But we can make certain extrapolations.

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Mist_sl said:
No, obviously chimps diverged from a shared common ancestor. But we can make certain extrapolations.

No. We can't.

Araysar · Jul 19, 2014

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Arbitrary · Jul 19, 2014

Mist_sl said:
No, obviously chimps diverged from a shared common ancestor. But we can make certain extrapolations.

Chimps have millions of years of evolution along a different path. Their closest ancestors have millions of years along a different evolutionary path. You can't come to those conclusions. At all.

Mist · Jul 19, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
We have no way of knowing what instincts were present in early humans and how those instincts changed over time. We have no way of knowing what instincts were present in their ancestors and how those instincts evolved over time. You can't compare two different species that evolved along entirely different paths and claim humans have lost almost all of our instincts because a species that evolved along an entirely different path is different than us.

You know this then hurts your biological/evolutionary argument by saying you can't find a baseline for comparison? If you can't make some assumptions about primate biological behaviors without the influence of complex human society, then your biological/evolutionary argument has absolutely standing. So please, continue arguing this point.

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Mist, it is COMPLETELY different to observe a behaviour to two species with a common ancestor and assume the ancestor also displayed that behavior than it is to look at a behaviour of one species not present in another and assume the common ancestor displayed it. The fact I have to explain that to you is nothing short of incredible. What is your specialization in psychology again?

Palum · Jul 19, 2014

Jive Turkey_sl said:
Maybe stick to the psych and stats because your bio is garbage. You're assuming an instinct displayed by an evolutionary cousin must've been present in our direct ancestors? Jesus christ

I mean, not so sure... she's talking about excluding the results of a simple experiment that populated a contingency table with a single nominal variable because of 'P-hacking by removing outliers' despite it having appeared in peer reviewed scientific journals. How the fuck do you even have an outlier without a continuous variable? "SHITS OFF THE SCALE, THAT BABY JUST CHOSE OPTION 9 OF 8!!!!" Lulz on many levels.

Arbitrary · Jul 19, 2014

Mist_sl said:
You know this then hurts your biological/evolutionary argument by saying you can't find a baseline for comparison? If you can't make some assumptions about primate biological behaviors without the influence of complex human society, then your biological/evolutionary argument has absolutely standing. So please, continue arguing this point.

You are saying flatly wrong things again. One-hundred percent completely fucking wrong things.

The very idea that you can look at chimps today and say they are like our monkey-lemur ancestors from a few hundred million years ago is absurd.

Palum · Jul 19, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
You are saying flatly wrong things again. One-hundred percent completely fucking wrong things.

The very idea that you can look at chimps today and say they are like our monkey-lemur ancestors from a few hundred million years ago is absurd.

Duh Arbitrary, you can see that in chimps and know past instincts BUT NOT HUMANS you dumb fuck!

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Palum_sl said:
I mean, not so sure... she's talking about excluding the results of a simple experiment that populated a contingency table with a single nominal variable because of 'P-hacking by removing outliers' despite it having appeared in peer reviewed scientific journals. How the fuck do you even have an outlier without a continuous variable? "SHITS OFF THE SCALE, THAT BABY JUST CHOSE OPTION 9 OF 8!!!!" Lulz on many levels.

I'm smart enough to stay away from the stats discussion

I'll leave that to you guys

Araysar · Jul 19, 2014

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Mist · Jul 19, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
You are saying flatly wrong things again. One-hundred percent completely fucking wrong things.

The very idea that you can look at chimps today and say they are like our monkey-lemur ancestors from a few hundred million years ago is absurd.

It is not as absurd as saying you can distinguish and separate human biologically-driven behaviors from socially-driven behaviors without looking to other primates.

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Is this seriously Mist's field of expertise? Why are they letting someone who knows sweet fuck all about biology and evolution near this sort of thing?

Jive Turkey · Jul 19, 2014

Mist_sl said:
It is not as absurd as saying you can distinguish and separate human biologically-driven behaviors from socially-driven behaviors without looking to other primates.

Actually, what you said was literally one of the dumbest things I've read in this thread. No lie.

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