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rhinohelix

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Only nation on earth to use a nuclear weapon against another nation.

Committed genocide against a large ethnic group multiple times. (the native americans)

Allows their corporations to go around raping the entire world, poison their own people, without EVER meaningfully reprimanding them in the courts. So much goes in this category I'll just stop here.

We had one of the worst civil wars in the history of the world, and we had that war over an idea that's so universally deplored that it boggles the mind.

Toppled many benign governments and replaced them with brutal and/or corrupt ones. Installing the Shah in Iran comes to mind, but there's countless other examples.United States support of authoritarian regimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"But we beat the Nazis!" you might say. No, the Russians broke the Nazis at Leningrad. We cleaned them out Europe afterwards, but the Russians sacrificed ~10 million soldiers and over 20 million lives to stop the advance of the Nazis.
Now, don't take this in the wrong spirit but any time Tanoomba is spritzing over your posts, its time to change. I am only going to take the time to point out two of the many things wrong with your list.

-The nuclear weapons deployed against Japan saved millions of lives. That isn't conjecture, its absolute fact. That they are nuclear weapons doesn't put them into some special category. As many or more people died in the firebombings of Tokyo and Dresden than at Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Without the show of force that those bombings constituted, though, the U.S. would have had to invade Japan. Based upon previous invasions, they estimate that the U.S. would have suffered more than a million casualties, with 5 to 10 million Japanese casualties. A-bombs shortened the war, saved lives, preventing more states and people falling under Soviet oppression, and have never been used again.

-The U.S. Civil War was particularly bloody but as mentioned, not even close to the worst civil war. It was so bloody in part because while technology had advanced considerably, the tactics used were still that of the Napoleonic era. As a result, thousands died. It was in many ways one of the first wars of the "modern" era and is considered to be a preview of the First World War. That it was mostly fought over slavery in one form or the other is true but abolition of slavery by other European powers wasn't too much sooner, as evidenced by the British eliminating slavery as late as 1833, although they did suspend the slave trade, particularly the African slave trade in 1808. That Americans felt so strongly over the issue as to spend hundreds of thousands of lives to rid our country of it has to be an unadulterated good.
How about a 4-way, with Mist's cousin?
I don't know... maybe it's because I'm an English teacher, maybe it's because I've had to become communicatively capable in four languages, maybe it's just because I understand the concept of context, but I don't have a problem with the term "privilege". To me, it basically means "bonus". It's like, regardless of any decision you've made or action you've taken up to this point, here's something positive that can help you. It's not a cure-all. it's not a "get out of jail free" card (even though it may literally have been used to get out of jail free), it's not a "fix anything that may be wrong in your life" solution. It's a bonus that can range from small to big, but is a given if you happen to qualify.

Maybe I happen to interpret certain concepts differently than most, maybe some people just need to be far less defensive about word choice... I don't know. All I know is... if that previously shared photo was actually of Trollface's sister, then I want first crack at that. I don't care how we decide... arm wrestling, VS Tetris, death battle... that is some sweet hotness.

Unless she's 12 or something, in which case I withdraw everything I just said.

Trollface, how old is your sister?
You remain such a giant douche that women walking by computers with this webpage up have cleaner vaginas merely by proximity to your posting. You are St. Douche.
 

Big Phoenix

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Only nation on earth to use a nuclear weapon against another nation.

Committed genocide against a large ethnic group multiple times. (the native americans)

Allows their corporations to go around raping the entire world, poison their own people, without EVER meaningfully reprimanding them in the courts. So much goes in this category I'll just stop here.

We had one of the worst civil wars in the history of the world, and we had that war over an idea that's so universally deplored that it boggles the mind.

Toppled many benign governments and replaced them with brutal and/or corrupt ones. Installing the Shah in Iran comes to mind, but there's countless other examples.United States support of authoritarian regimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"But we beat the Nazis!" you might say. No, the Russians broke the Nazis at Leningrad. We cleaned them out Europe afterwards, but the Russians sacrificed ~10 million soldiers and over 20 million lives to stop the advance of the Nazis.

Now America has done a lot of good in the world. We've kept a lot of evil fuckers in check, even though some of those evil fuckers are beasts of our own creation.

We liberated south east Asia from the Japanese. We could have just let the Japs keep skullraping Filipinos and Malaysians and brokered a peace. (As an aside, we killed a lot of Filipinos of our own in the early 20th century, we invented the M1911 pistol just for the purpose of killing them because apparently regular guns don't kill Filipinos, look it up.)

We designed and implemented a post-WW2 world order that's lasted and created the greatest peace in the history of man.

We've invented a lot of shit. America as a beacon of intellectual freedom has put the world at least 50 years ahead technologically than if we weren't around, probably closer to 100. But many, if not the majority, of those things were invented by immigrants, America served as a place where those people could come to bring those ideas to market and share them with the world.

The important thing is that the good we've done counterbalances but doesn't erase the bad. It just sits there holding down the other side of the scale. But at some point we're going to have to answer the question of what is it about our cultural DNA that makes us such a violent people, when no one has ever seriously threatened us with annihilation like other nations have dealt with.
Never go full retard
 

Big Phoenix

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Is stating true shit somehow now retarded? Where is she wrong in your opinion?
Gee WHERE DO BEGIN?
Only nation on earth to use a nuclear weapon against another nation.
True, but Nuclear weapons are in the same category as biological and chemical weapons, something the Europeans LOVED to throw around during WW1 and the Japanese during WW2;Unit 731 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Allows their corporations to go around raping the entire world, poison their own people, without EVER meaningfully reprimanding them in the courts. So much goes in this category I'll just stop here.
Really? Have you never heard of;
East India Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dutch East India Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Danish East India Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Portuguese East India Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
French East India Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British South Africa Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Want me to go on? You think you can even begin to compare what US corporations have done to the shit Europeans and their corporate underlings pulled during the Imperialist era? I dont recall US corporations ever committing genocide and stealing entire countries like every single one of those companies did(looking at you here Britain, particularly in South Africa/Rhodesia and India).
We had one of the worst civil wars in the history of the world, and we had that war over an idea that's so universally deplored that it boggles the mind.
This is just so fucking idiotic it doesnt deserve to be shown how idiotic it is. Suffice it to say there have been a lot more stupid civil wars fought for much dumber reasons.

Toppled many benign governments and replaced them with brutal and/or corrupt ones. Installing the Shah in Iran comes to mind, but there's countless other examples.
Again, the US doesnt hold a candle to the Euros(see east india companies);Imperialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"But we beat the Nazis!" you might say. No, the Russians broke the Nazis at Leningrad. We cleaned them out Europe afterwards, but the Russians sacrificed ~10 million soldiers and over 20 million lives to stop the advance of the Nazis.
Yes, the sheer amount of raw materials and logistical support we gave the USSR during WW2 was nothing at all and had zero impact on the war.

His point is what exactly? What is the point of pointing out the bad things the US has done and acting like they are some how worse or more extreme than all the other shit that has been going on during the same exact time period?
 

Voyce

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The underlying theme behind that list of factoids and half truths was supposed to reinforce this retarded evil theory, it fails to do that
This entire thread is composed of two children trying to bandage together a flurry of non sequitors to throw at us, that they've parroted from other places in their life. It's unremarkable and pathetic.
 

Haus

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Here's my real take on this whole damn thread....

Why?

If apparently so many already know exactly what my white/male/whatever privilege is why should I check it.

It's been stated multiple times in this thread that you should not attempt to not take advantage of it (to quote Mist it would be like not taking all available tax deductions..), which subsequently means there's no reason to attempt to undo my privilege (since to extend her analogy one would not attempt to have a tax break they enjoyed removed).

As I operate under the boiled down philosophy of "only worry about shit you can do something about, accept the rest as the workings of the universe" this leads me to think "white privilege" is S.E.P. (somebody else's problem)

So why, exactly, have a predominantly white male group of people taken up 23 pages of ever so valuable internet real estate chattering about this?
 

Picasso3

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Who is neutral at this point? An overweight white woman? I need some oppression to privilege charts so I can keep track of how much I should tolerate bullshit from each individual class/gender/nongender/race/weight
 

Picasso3

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I propose a privilege formula with 5 coefficients, race, gender, bmi, attractiveness, and birth class.

Minimum is fat Latino woman, max Prince Charles.
 

Laedrun

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Wouldn't be a Brosar thread without Putin's take on the topic.
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...Holy shit, Putin's right!
 

Mist

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Why is it that 'freedom loving' conservatives are always the first to praise dictators?
 

ZyyzYzzy

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I don't know... maybe it's because I'm an English teacher, maybe it's because I've had to become communicatively capable in four languages, maybe it's just because I understand the concept of context, but I don't have a problem with the term "privilege". To me, it basically means "bonus". It's like, regardless of any decision you've made or action you've taken up to this point, here's something positive that can help you. It's not a cure-all. it's not a "get out of jail free" card (even though it may literally have been used to get out of jail free), it's not a "fix anything that may be wrong in your life" solution. It's a bonus that can range from small to big, but is a given if you happen to qualify.

Maybe I happen to interpret certain concepts differently than most, maybe some people just need to be far less defensive about word choice... I don't know. All I know is... if that previously shared photo was actually of Trollface's sister, then I want first crack at that. I don't care how we decide... arm wrestling, VS Tetris, death battle... that is some sweet hotness.

Unless she's 12 or something, in which case I withdraw everything I just said.

Trollface, how old is your sister?
This fucking faggot says he is an English teacher and then fucking uses the word "privilege" wrong.

Also, let us not forget he teaches English as a second language, which I'm sure anyone who took AP Spanish could do.
 

fanaskin

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Why is it that 'freedom loving' conservatives are always the first to praise dictators?
Why do you support the corporations that you claim to despise, they are the ones for example that drove mass immigration of mexicans into america when they displaced their farmland through NAFTA, There was a gigantic mass influx of displaced economic refugees when that happened. The corporations and political class both profit off the cheap labour and the near permanent servant underclass they created. Constantly jabbering "check your privilege" at white people is one way among a myriad of other "tolerance public shamings" that get average white people to be silent on such issues, Liberals aren't immune from being useful idiots too.
 

Loser Araysar

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The main privilege of being a white male (who doesn't look poor/like a drug addict) is that you're just met with far less skepticism in just about every possible situation versus how a non-white non-male would be treated. You're automatically assumed to be more competent, on average, than everyone else not in that category. It's not a huge advantage, but it's a small one adds up over and over again through the course of your life until it accumulates into something significant late in your career cycle.
maybe there is a good reason for that.
 

Loser Araysar

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Balthazar, i can't understand why they banned you.

Your first thread? A 500 post masterpiece. Just shows how stupid the mods and owners here are
 

Laedrun

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Why is it that 'freedom loving' conservatives are always the first to praise dictators?
My post was obviously for the lulz, silly twat. Prog-tards, on the other hand,genuinelyworship dictators like Stalin, Mao, Chavez, Castro, or In Che Guevara's case a dictator's fasionable executioner.