Butthurt white guys, an Asian virgin and an angry lesbian walk into a bar...

Ritley · May 23, 2015

Palum_sl said:
I hope they televise that circus. I don't know if they'll win on the gender discrimination grounds though. While it's quite clear it's being done because he's male, it's pretty easy to swing that argument to be purely 'victim's rights'. I don't know how they defend against the rest.

I hope Columbia loses every penny of federal funding for this, though. What a thorough and terrible set of deliberate actions to essentially destroy that guy's life. Emma would have been stuck whining on Facebook and Jezebel without Columbia's direct intervention.

It's really pretty sickening how we've gotten to the point where you can cause this much damage to someone who hasn't actually done anything wrong without a shred of evidence.

If you read any news article on this subject, they don't mention a single fucking thing about this guy's evidence. The most they ever give him is that he is an "alleged rapist".

They don't mention that she maintained a normal relationship with him for months after the "rape", that she wanted him to date her and he said no, the text messages she sent, etc.

Mist · May 23, 2015

Ritley_sl said:
It's really pretty sickening how we've gotten to the point where you can cause this much damage to someone who hasn't actually done anything wrong without a shred of evidence.

There's been completely unfounded witch hunts since, well, the witch hunts, and probably long before that as well. It's not new; millennial SJWs did not invent ruining someone's reputation.

khorum · May 23, 2015

Yep, the only thing millenial SJWs have really invented are fake campus rape epidemics.

Mist · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
Yep, the only thing millenial SJWs have really invented are fake campus rape epidemics.

Is there ANY level of evidence that would convince you that there really is an epidemic?

Because if the answer is no, you're not a rational person.

Kirun · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
There's been completely unfounded witch hunts since, well, the witch hunts, and probably long before that as well. It's not new; millennial SJWs did not invent ruining someone's reputation.

Yeah, the 'ole two wrongs fallacy. Always a great rebuttal..

Rape has been happening since, well, the dawn of humans, and probably long before that as well. It's not new; fratboy RedPillers did not invent raping someone's ass.

Mist · May 23, 2015

Kirun_sl said:
Yeah, the 'ole two wrongs fallacy. Always a great rebuttal..

Rape has been happening since, well, the dawn of humans, and probably long before that as well. It's not new; fratboy RedPillers did not invent raping someone's ass.

I'm just saying the "how we've gotten to the point" part is ridiculous. People have been spreading malicious rumors about people since the beginning of time, using instruments of social power against people since the dawn of civilization, etc.

Bad people are going to use whatever means available in their era to be bad people. It doesn't confirm or deny whether there's a rape crisis or not.

Adebisi · May 23, 2015

Ritley_sl said:
It's really pretty sickening how we've gotten to the point where you can cause this much damage to someone who hasn't actually done anything wrong without a shred of evidence.

If you read any news article on this subject, they don't mention a single fucking thing about this guy's evidence. The most they ever give him is that he is an "alleged rapist".

They don't mention that she maintained a normal relationship with him for months after the "rape", that she wanted him to date her and he said no, the text messages she sent, etc.

Journalists have put a million stories in their wastebaskets over the years, because they don't check out. Today, they publish, or they broadcast, the mere fact of the accusation, regardless of whether it's filled with helium. That's what changed in journalism. They serve as transmission belts for this stuff without ever inquiring into its accuracy. That's the way the news business runs now.

khorum · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
Is there ANY level of evidence that would convince you that there really is an epidemic?

Because if the answer is no, you're not a rational person.

What's wrong with our criminal justice system's interpretation of what would constitute a rape epidemic? Are college students a special breed of American that deserve better protections than other American women?

Trick question. It doesn't matter because rape has been on the DECLINE despite the FBI beingpressured to change its definition of RAPE anyway:

81633a_57e1e302211a400c97e1498e89260fe4.jpg_srz_336_450_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz

So despite the FBI being compelled to revise its definition of rape to INCLUDE NON-VIOLENT/NON-COERCIVE sexual activity----anddespite substantially improved rates of rape reporting (from 29% to 34%), the prevalence of rape among women aged 12-25 have STEADILY DECLINED over the last decade. Even among students.

So I suppose I'd settle for any level of evidence that DOESN'T reward the anonymous, self-selected, narcissistic millenial cunts with the warm glow of confirmation bias and internships at RAINN.

Mist · May 23, 2015

How can you be sure that FBI statistics are better than behavioral researchers who actually know something about college populations?

You don't trust government statistics for anything else, you crazy paranoid libertard, so trusting the FBI on this is both contradictory and hypocritical.

Neither of us have any way of knowing the real rate of occurrence. All signs point to still way too high regardless of whether it's declining or not.

fanaskin · May 23, 2015

I wouldn't trust a behaviorist

khorum · May 23, 2015

Crazy paranoid libertards respect the government's capacity for shitting on someone's life if they lie under oath, though. I don't trust the FBI with my gunz and my women, but I trust their capacity to discourage obese bluehair SJWs from fabricating rape details under threat of perjury.

I sure as shit would trust the FBI's definition of a 'campus rape epidemic' than someone who's been in neither a frat party nor a heterosexual relationship and yet persists on dykesplaining away ALL THE POSSIBLE FUCKING REASONS a girl would get drunk and concoct reasons to vaporize some dude's life because she sold her virtue far too cheaply.

Mist · May 23, 2015

fanaskin_sl said:
I wouldn't trust a behaviorist

But you'd trust a cop? Because the FBI are just overpaid cops with even lower accountability standards than academics.

Mist · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
Crazy paranoid libertards respect the government's capacity for shitting on someone's life if they lie under oath, though. I don't trust the FBI with my gunz and my women, but I trust their capacity to discourage obese bluehair SJWs from fabricating rape details under threat of perjury.

I sure as shit would trust the FBI's definition of a 'campus rape epidemic' than someone who's been in neither a frat party nor a heterosexual relationship and yet persists on dykesplaining away ALL THE POSSIBLE FUCKING REASONS a girl would get drunk and concoct reasons to vaporize some dude's life because she sold her virtue far too cheaply.

The FBI doesn't keep official statistics on how many civilians are murdered by cops each year, but somehow knows exactly what's going on inside bedrooms on campuses across the country?

Intredasting.

khorum · May 23, 2015

I like that you're glomming the Bureau of Justice statistics with overpaid cops. LOL.

Sorry. Your "rape epidemic" doesn't exist.

Agraza · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
what's going on inside bedrooms on campuses across the country?

Pffft, amateur. Rape in the bathroom.

Mist · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
I like that you're glomming the Bureau of Justice statistics with overpaid cops. LOL.

Sorry. Your "rape epidemic" doesn't exist.

Yeah, the justice department is so well known for being credible.

Fast and Furious, anyone?

You conservatives are such flipfloppers.

khorum · May 23, 2015

Honestly, I only knew about that statistic because of how Anthony Holdercompelled the BJS to change the definition of rapeto accomodate---you guessed it---obese bluehair SJWs out to prove the existence of a rape epidemic.

The "conservative" argument is that those rape statistics would be even lower if they had NOT been revised from the criteria the Department of Justice had been using for years.

So not only has the rate of rape reporting improved by over 5% (29% to 34% is better than the last decade combined)---they've included non-coercive sexual activity that HAD NEVER BEEN COUNTED BEFORE, and they lowered the median victim age to 12 years old and....

...nope, still no rape epidemic:

Mist · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
I trust the government only when it suits my argument.

ftfy

Kirun · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
Honestly, I only knew about that statistic because of how Anthony Holdercompelled the BJS to change the definition of rapeto accomodate---you guessed it---obese bluehair SJWs out to prove the existence of a rape epidemic.

The "conservative" argument is that those rape statistics would be even lower if they had NOT been revised from the criteria the Department of Justice had been using for years.

So not only has the rate of rape reporting improved by over 5% (29% to 34% is better than the last decade combined)---they've included non-coercive sexual activity that HAD NEVER BEEN COUNTED BEFORE, and they lowered the median victim age to 12 years old and....

...nope, still no rape epidemic:

Quit mansplaining with your facts and objective data. How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real? Feels data is all that matters.

EDIT: It's also hilarious watching Mist use the same ad hominem attacks against the FBI that conservatards use against the Bureau of Labor when unemployment numbers come out.

fanaskin · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
But you'd trust a cop? Because the FBI are just overpaid cops with even lower accountability standards than academics.

depends on how many departments are involved, if it's reporting compiled from all precincts across the country then yes i'd be more inclined to trust it over self selection survey's from a couple hundred people extrapolated for a whole country.

Butthurt white guys, an Asian virgin and an angry lesbian walk into a bar...

Bronze Baron of the Realm

REEEEeyore

Murder Apologist

REEEEeyore

Buzzfeed Editor

REEEEeyore

Clump of Cells

Murder Apologist

REEEEeyore

Well known agitator

Murder Apologist

REEEEeyore

REEEEeyore

Murder Apologist

Registered Hutt

REEEEeyore

Murder Apologist

REEEEeyore

Buzzfeed Editor

Well known agitator