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khorum · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
ftfy

Big Phoenix · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
Is there ANY level of evidence that would convince you that there really is an epidemic?

Because if the answer is no, you're not a rational person.

Yeah any data showing "rape epidemic" is real trust worthy when we have multiple instances of colleges and the media making up completely bogus bullshit(the duke boys, dunham, this dumb mattress tranny). If there was really an epidemic of rape, you wouldnt have to lie non fucking stop for a juicy rape story.

Mist · May 23, 2015

Kirun_sl said:
Quit mansplaining with your facts and objective data. How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real? Feels data is all that matters.

EDIT: It's also hilarious watching Mist use the same ad hominem attacks against the FBI that conservatards use against the Bureau of Labor when unemployment numbers come out.

I'm not attacking the FBI. I'm attacking khorum's complete lack of consistency.

Mist · May 23, 2015

Big Phoenix_sl said:
Yeah any data showing "rape epidemic" is real trust worthy when we have multiple instances of colleges and the media making up completely bogus bullshit(the duke boys, dunham, this dumb mattress tranny). If there was really an epidemic of rape, you wouldnt have to lie non fucking stop for a juicy rape story.

You're not demonstrating a motive for lying on an anonymous self-report survey.

Get a fucking clue. People who have ACTUALLY been victimized are not eager to share that fact. All it does is make them more vulnerable when they're already in a vulnerable state. And rapists prey on vulnerability, so advertising that you've been raped is a really good way to get raped again.

When you see someone running around trying to tell anyone who will listen about their rape, that's when you know someone is lying. Hence how I know Mattress Girl is fucking lying. No rape victims act like that, ever.

And rape reporting rates for men areabysmallylow, so don't just blame it on 'girls r dum.'

Picasso3 · May 23, 2015

Lets stop and think about this Mist.

khorum · May 23, 2015

LMAO how does my "inconsistency" influence the data as presented, exactly?

Not only is there no "Rape Epidemic", there is actually the opposite of a "CAMPUS rape epidemic".

In fact, thanks to aBureau of Justice Statistics report specially commissioned by bluehair SJW cunts everywhere,thesafest placefor a college aged woman who was terrified of being raped was---in A COLLEGE CAMPUS, where they were 20% less likely to get raped than in the real world!

NCVS_sl said:
The NCVS showed that between 1995 and 2013female nonstudentsbetween the ages of 18 and 24 were 1.2 times more likely to experience rape and sexual assaultthan female students of the same age....

In general, the NCVS found that female nonstudents experienced violent victimization at 1.6 times the rate of students. Nonstudents experienced violent victimization at the rate of 73.1 per 1000. Students experienced violent victimization at 46.3 per 1000. Violent victimization includes rape, sexual assault, robbery, and assault (aggravated and simple).

Mist · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
I trust the government only when it suits my argument.

Let's not stop and think about the fact that NCVS uses in-person interviewing of households and how that might effect the data they collect on rapes. Which might have a lot to do with why the NCVS is a lot lower than even other government statistics when it comes to rape.

khorum · May 23, 2015

I don't even trust THAT government statistic. Like I said, the criteria that defined what rape washad been altered by the Obama Justice Departmentto include heavy petting, drunken spooning and slightly damp underthings. So you can rest assured I remain consistent on how inflated the 2013+ numbers really are.

But even then, despite broadening the definition of rape to include everything short of STARE RAPE (that's in the works I'm sure), not only could they NOT produce a spike in rapes over the last three decades, (or even just the last decade), the numbers continued to show the steady decline of sexual assaults on college-aged women that's been going on since the 70s....

...with the women LEAST AT RISK being those students in college campuses.

Cad · May 23, 2015

But Mist has that one study based on surveys guys. Quit mansplaining feels data on her. SHE HAS REAL DATA.

Mist · May 23, 2015

Cad_sl said:
But Mist has that one study based on surveys guys. Quit mansplaining feels data on her. SHE HAS REAL DATA.

Dude, the NCVS is a an in-person self report survey of households. Basically the government has a rotating pool of households and goes and asks them if anyone in their household has been stolen from, raped or murdered lately.

It does not actually track rape statistics from police departments.

Cad_sl said:
Surveys are bad, except for the surveys that agree with my preconceived worldview, even though they have demonstrably worse methodology.

ftfy

Big Phoenix · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
Dude, the NCVS is a an in-person self report survey of households. Basically the government has a rotating pool of households and goes and asks them if anyone in their household has been stolen from, raped or murdered lately.

It does not actually track rape statistics from police departments.

ftfy

So if they feel theyve been the victim of a crime then it must be true? People dont lie? People dont not understand? People dont misinterpret?

Mist · May 23, 2015

Big Phoenix_sl said:
So if they feel theyve been the victim of a crime then it must be true? People dont lie? People dont not understand? People dont misinterpret?

No, what I'm saying is thesurveythey're quoting as being the 'official' government number is way more bullshit than thesurveythey're refuting, while at the same time saying that surveys are bullshit.

So they're saying a survey is bullshit by quoting an demonstrably worse survey.

The government does NOT tabulate crime victimization stats from police departments. People seem to be confused and think that's what the NCVS is.

Mist · May 23, 2015

Seriously, I ask you 'conservatives' which of the following surveys are you likely to answer more honestly:

An anonymous written self-report survey administered by an academic researcher.

Or a survey where someone from the government shows up at your door and says "I'm from the government and I'm here to help... by asking if anyone in your household has been raped lately."

khorum · May 23, 2015

Mist is just being a stubborn lezzie cow. EvenRAINN---the Greenpeace of rape hysteria---applauds the NCVSsince they were pretty much quarterbacking the whole push to get the UCR changed to redefine rape!

RAINN_sl said:
"Sexual assault has decreased by two-thirds since 1993. This continued downward trend indicates that tremendous progress has been made in the fight against sexual violence. The dramatic cultural shift in public awareness and attitudes about rape, combined with tougher crime policies, has resulted in great strides towards our goal of eliminating sexual violence," said Scott Berkowitz, president & founder of RAINN, the nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization. "Thanks to public education programs and media attention, Americans have come to understand that rape is a violent crime and should be treated as such."

It is important to note that the 2006 NCVS survey cannot be directly compared to previous NCVS annual surveys due to a new survey methodology implemented by BJS..

Other NCVS findings reveal more promising news: The percentage of sexual assaults that were reported to police averaged 41.6% over the last five years. This is an increase of more than 35% from the reporting rate for the in 1993-1997.

Despite the fact that the NCVS data show that we've made great progress, there is still much work to be done in the fight against sexual violence.

In fact, every 2 minutes, another American is sexually assaulted...

....but they're 20% less likely to be in a college campus. Thanks RAINN!

Skanda · May 23, 2015

Mist_sl said:
Is there ANY level of evidence that would convince you that there really is an epidemic?

Because if the answer is no, you're not a rational person.

I love how you posted this and then when everyone started throwing actual statistics in your face you manage to create faults in all of them. Are you feeling rational?

khalid · May 23, 2015

The percentage of sexual assaults that were reported to police averaged 41.6% over the last five years. This is an increase of more than 35% from the reporting rate for the in 1993-1997.

This seems to go directly against what most people crying "rape epidemic" say.

Mist · May 23, 2015

khorum_sl said:
This organization full of obese blue hairs I don't trust applauds this stupid survey from the government, which I also don't trust, for purely semantic reasons. Therefore it must be true, because it suits my argument even though it is complete inconsistent with my actual position. BTW, I fucking suck at arguing against anyone more mentally equipped than a gerbil.

ftfy

Mist · May 23, 2015

Skanda_sl said:
I love how you posted this and then when everyone started throwing actual statistics in your face you manage to create faults in all of them. Are you feeling rational?

Do you have the reading comprehension of a chipmunk? Explain how a justice department run, in-person, self-report survey with a worse methodology counts as 'actual statistics' by the same argument that self-report surveys are bad?

Seriously, you guys are mental fucking midgets. "SURVEYSARE BAD,GOVERNMENTIS INCOMPETENT, BUTGOVERNMENT SURVEYSTHAT HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH ME ARE AWESOME AND TOTES TRUE."

khorum · May 23, 2015

so sooooo mad

khalid · May 23, 2015

Mist's anti-statistics aggression is so triggering me now. I'm going to have to drop out of this thread. Please tell me when it is a math-safe zone again.

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