Camelot Unchained MMO

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I absolutely hate listening to Mark talk but I'm glad to see that he's not only trying something different here but he's trying to stick to his guns on certain design principles. One can certainly argue that him sticking to his guns was part of the problem with WAR but I still believe that a lot of the failures from WAR came from the hype generated by Hickmann & Barnett while key core components of the game remained broken (mythic seconds).

Luckily it looks like Mark has a young staff ready to chomp at the bit while targetting that niche group and ifCamelotUnchainedcan deliver on the majority of the elements being proposed then I will gladly continue to give them my money. I find it funny that some of the design elements he speaks about have been touched upon in other threads and definitely speak to what some of us want but the sheer vitriol against the man will prevent people from supporting it.
 
Azrayne

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One can certainly argue that him sticking to his guns was part of the problem with WAR
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Yeah I'm going to disagree. Putting aside the shitty engine, the major issues with WAR were all the things they tried to change to differentiate it from DAoC. If they'd picked a good engine and copy pasted DAoC's RvR into a game with WoW style combat and pve, it would have been amazing. But somehow they got it into their head that 2 factions and those godawful zone layouts and that absurd scoring system was a good idea. If it ain't broke...
 
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Azrayne_sl said:
Yeah I'm going to disagree. Putting aside the shitty engine, the major issues with WAR were all the things they tried to change to differentiate it from DAoC. If they'd picked a good engine and copy pasted DAoC's RvR into a game with WoW style combat and pve, it would have been amazing. But somehow they got it into their head that 2 factions and those godawful zone layouts and that absurd scoring system was a good idea. If it ain't broke...
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I'm not sure if you misread what I wrote but I'm fairly certain we said the same thing. Had Mark NOT stuck to his guns and listened to those of us during beta I don't believe WAR would have turned out to be as shitty as it was because we were screaming for the types of changes you mentioned. Granted it wasn't the only reason the game failed which I made mention to above however, I am willing to see what he and a new batch of devs can come up with inCamelotUnchained. So far I like what I am reading but again, it's all papercraft at this point.
 
Azrayne

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I meant I disagreed with the people who think that, I think we're pretty much on the same page here.

I'm past the point where I have any expectations about these games, but I'll keep an eye on it on the off chance it doesn't suck balls.

Though they're still only 60% towards their kickstarter goal, so they might end up falling short of the $2m. Does that mean it just doesn't go ahead?
 
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Azrayne_sl said:
I meant I disagreed with the people who think that, I think we're pretty much on the same page here.

I'm past the point where I have any expectations about these games, but I'll keep an eye on it on the off chance it doesn't suck balls.

Though they're still only 60% towards their kickstarter goal, so they might end up falling short of the $2m. Does that mean it just doesn't go ahead?
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If they fall short then it won't go ahead and won't be put up a second time.
 
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Mark Jacobs is a very egotistical guy, I'd be surprised if he would listen to anyone at the beta stage of a game.
 
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They are really struggling to make money right now. If they don't either figure out a way for people to buy more foundation points for their pledges, or if some pledges don't start just throwing cash at the kickstarter the last couple days, I don't see this funding.
 
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They are really struggling to make money right now. If they don't either figure out a way for people to buy more foundation points for their pledges, or if some pledges don't start just throwing cash at the kickstarter the last couple days, I don't see this funding.
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I'm sure it's on the Kickstarter site, but what happens to the dinero if they don't reach their goal and shut down everything?
 
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What's funny is that the $ amount per pledge is really high but the pledge numbers themselves are really low. We'll see things pick up in a few days like most of the other Kickstarters but if it doesn't fund, no money is exchanged from what I understand. You basically don't pay unless it funds.
 
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They really should have waited longer and actually produced something first. Asking for 2 million on faith alone is a pretty big gamble. Still think it will get funded though.
 
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so many MMO kickstarters out right now, im surprised it raised the money is has so far
 
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Depths sounds pretty fascinating. So much of the game sounds like new territory.
 
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Caal_sl said:
Depths sounds pretty fascinating. So much of the game sounds like new territory.
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Minecraft in RvR? Sounds pretty cool, just wonder if they can pull it off.

Draegan, perhaps when Mark is on Guildcenter next time you can ask him that?
 
Azrayne

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Their kickstarter has pretty much ground to a halt with 800 000 to go, unless something big changes in 11 days it looks like this game won't go ahead
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Azrayne_sl said:
Their kickstarter has pretty much ground to a halt with 800 000 to go, unless something big changes in 11 days it looks like this game won't go ahead
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Good. Fuck Jacobs and all these rich asshats asking for gamers to fund their hair-brained, archaic designs.
 
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Lot of people wishing every game was a purely PvE game. Ew.

They need to be careful in their art design. It had much to do with the faction imbalances in Warhammer.

It seems a little too ambitious but I'm following it.
 
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Swizzy_sl said:
They are really struggling to make money right now. If they don't either figure out a way for people to buy more foundation points for their pledges, or if some pledges don't start just throwing cash at the kickstarter the last couple days, I don't see this funding.
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I heard that Mark will pledge the difference. It is free money why throw it away.
 
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