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Yea, I don't get the hate for episode 2. I thought that was an interesting episode, maybe not the funniest ever, but pretty cool overall. Same with episode 3, but to a lesser extent. 1, 4 and 6 were the least funny, but only episode 1 and 6 were 'boring' to me. I still enjoyed watching the other episodes.

One thing that's becoming more evident to me the more I watch this season is that the writing is far less subtle than it used to be. It's like the writers want to make sure we get the jokes, so you get things like Jeff kissing Chang's ex and then exclaiming, "This should bother you because she's the love of your life!" or Annie setting up getting Troy to be the bad cop. Harmon wouldn't have needed Chang to shout "Chang out!" into a phone to get us to realize that he wasn't really Kevin. It was pretty evident when he rounded the corner, his face changed, and then he started talking into the phone.

It's like they can't have a studio audience reacting to what's going on, so the writers have to constantly be like, "Eh, get it? Get it?" Perhaps it was just the documentary format, but this episode really suffered from this the most.

enzie_sl said:

Yea, I don't get the hate for episode 2. I thought that was an interesting episode, maybe not the funniest ever, but pretty cool overall. Same with episode 3, but to a lesser extent. 1, 4 and 6 were the least funny, but only episode 1 and 6 were 'boring' to me. I still enjoyed watching the other episodes.

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The Halloween episode had a lot to live up to compared to past seasons', but for me, it was just that it was too zany and over-the-top. I think a lot of it had to do with how unrealistic Pierce's mansion was.

Episode sucked, heavy handed and not even remotely funny, the whole Chang arc just keeps getting more and more absurd.

Cantatus_sl said:

One thing that's becoming more evident to me the more I watch this season is that the writing is far less subtle than it used to be.

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Yeah. I'd wager this is the episode that made Chevy Chase flip out about his character and say "What's next, am I gonna say American Inventor!?"

Cantatus_sl said:

The Halloween episode had a lot to live up to compared to past seasons', but for me, it was just that it was too zany and over-the-top. I think a lot of it had to do with how unrealistic Pierce's mansion was.

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I think that's exactly why I liked it, the show has never been overly realistic now.. Pierce's mansion being so crazy was what was interesting. It was like an adult playhouse, which fits his character's stunted emotional growth.

the show has never been overly realistic now..

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Maybe not, but it was much better before it went off into batshitcrazy-ville territory in season 3.

Yeah, they should keep it realistic like a fried chicken rocket ship Winnebago or an actual zombie outbreak....

So you're saying there wasn't a substantial ramp up in the absurd craziness in S3?

I was just being snarky, but looking at the episode list on IMDB I don't think 3 was particularly more zany than 2. They weren't quite as GOOD as season 2, but I'd say a list of wackiness for both seasons would be pretty close. I don't think the problem was so much MORE crazy stuff as it was not as good crazy stuff.

Yeah I suppose that's a fair point.

Holy shit that's A-aron!

Whale story and Jeff/Pierce didn't do much for me, but Abed's instant frat and the P.E.E. class were both funny.

The Ancient_sl said:

Holy shit that's A-aron!

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shit I was wondering why that Wakandan looked familiar

Grimmlokk_sl said:

Whale story and Jeff/Pierce didn't do much for me, but Abed's instant frat and the P.E.E. class were both funny.

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I thought the Pierce stuff was good because it was more reminiscent of S1 where he was a likeable character.

The episode had some weird cuts to closeups of character faces to fit in jokes, as if they weren't there during the original filming or something.

Pussy

Grimmlokk_sl said:

Pussy

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Pussy and weed, yea that about covers it.

There are 2-3 frames there where you can see into her soul and realize that she is dead inside.
That's when I came.

Who said they want him to be nice and likeable? Adding a little more to the character than the generic bigot he's devolved in to is not the same as people wanting him to be Joey Tribbiani.