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Intrinsic

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When I was interviewing for my new job they said the company is considering moving from work issued PCs to a yearly per diem, like they do with phones now, just $60 added to your paycheck, basically. Then I asked how much and he said, "Well at the last meeting they were kicking around a $2k number." Obviously he could see the expression on my face because he quickly asked if I thought that was not enough.
 

Gravel

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I hope you said, "Not even close. You need to double it."

Edit: Nevermind, saw you said it was during an interview. That doesn't seem like I great idea.
 

Droigan

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Just ordered my first desktop computer in years.

EDIT: writing again, posted with links to norwegian site. didn't mean to do that

Hard drives
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD (for windows / programs)

Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5" SSD (two of these)
https://www.komplett.no/product/653...k-35/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35?noredirect=true
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5"

Memory
HyperX Fury DDR4 2133MHz 32GB
https://www.komplett.no/product/887...hyperx-fury-ddr4-2133mhz-32gb?noredirect=true
Graphics card
Gainward GeForce GTX 1080 Phoenix GS
https://www.komplett.no/product/887...hyperx-fury-ddr4-2133mhz-32gb?noredirect=true
PSU
Corsair RM850x 850W PSU

CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake

CPU cooler
Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 Cooler

Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D Big Tower Black
https://www.komplett.no/product/794...-obsidian-750d-big-tower-sort?noredirect=true
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING, Socket-1151 - ATX,Z170,DDR4,3xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX, SupremeFX, GameFirst III

Microsoft Windows 10 Home

ASUS BD-Reader/DVD-Writer BC-12D2HT

Been gaming on a laptop for years now, so hopefully the above will give me decent fps again for a little while.
 

Lanx

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Just ordered my first desktop computer in years.

EDIT: writing again, posted with links to norwegian site. didn't mean to do that

Hard drives
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD (for windows / programs)

Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5" SSD (two of these)
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5"

Memory
HyperX Fury DDR4 2133MHz 32GB
Graphics card
Gainward GeForce GTX 1080 Phoenix GS
PSU
Corsair RM850x 850W PSU

CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake

CPU cooler
Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 Cooler

Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D Big Tower Black
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING, Socket-1151 - ATX,Z170,DDR4,3xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX, SupremeFX, GameFirst III

Microsoft Windows 10 Home

ASUS BD-Reader/DVD-Writer BC-12D2HT

Been gaming on a laptop for years now, so hopefully the above will give me decent fps again for a little while.
Remember to attach the watercooler to the top of the case and not the front, you only put it in the front if you're using 2.
 

Droigan

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Why 4 Drives?
850psu sounds high too. just the one 1080 right?

Just one 1080 yeah. I figured one ssd for pure windows and programs. Two 500 ones for games since some games are so large now, and one 2tb plain one for temp storage for movies/tv shows.

My current asus laptop has 2x 150gb ssds and two 750gb regular hard drives. the 150gb ssds can fit 4-5 games on them. Less if you start modding a game like Skyrim or Fallout 4. Witcher 3 with all the DLC is quite large as well, as is GTA 5. Since one of them has windows on it, there is room for one game besides it.

So figured for once, I am not going to run out of space immediately, or have to install games on non-ssd drives. I wanted a 1tb ssd, but they didn't have it in the store when I ordered so got 2x 500.
 

Kalaar kururuc

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I'm considering a partial upgrading of my desktop, mainly because I've noticed a few weird issues where it doesn't switch off even after going through the shut down process, and if I leave it a long while it wont wake up, even though power saving is set to never switch off it takes itself to a black screen and then I have to hard reboot. My case (an antec 900) has seen better days after moving country once and moving house several times, so I wanted to swap that out too.

I upgraded my graphics last year to an R9 270 and it has no problems playing anything I currently play so I'm keeping that. My Samsung SDD is also still fine as an OS drive, as are the 1TB caviar blacks that I use for storage. I'll also keep using my 27" Asus, which has zero problems.

My list is currently:
ASRock K6 fatality board
i5-6600k
8GB Corsair DDR4 Vengeance - is it worth going to 16GB for gaming only?
750W EVGA Supernova PSU
Cooler Master Pro 5 case
Cooler Master D92 cpu cooler, or maybe a water cooler, but I have 0 experience with these.

I'll then reuse my GPU and hard drives, potentially I could upgrade the gpu next year when I have cash floating about again, although with a kid on the way this may not happen :)

Anything wrong with the parts? Reading reviews I may be able to get away with a lower power psu? but I don't want to go away from modular as the unused cable spaghetti annoys me
 
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mixtilplix

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Looks like my old HD has finally started to bite the dust and need a new one. I am looking for a general purpose SSD and need some recommendations since I am completely in the dark with regards to SSD's. I pretty much only just game on my windows desktop at the moment so would like enough space to put my games on there or at least a few big AAA games. I can pick the drive up at frys or newegg tomorrow in person so something from those locations would be fine but any good deals are welcome.
 

Denamian

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Get a Samsung 850 EVO, they're pretty much the gold standard nowadays. I have a 500 GB one as my main drive and have been quite please with it.
 
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Bubbles

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Why do you need so many SATA ports? Just curious what your config is.

I am using a 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe for OS / Games and a single 4TB drive for storage and torrent DL/UL.

config is old, hence the upgrade is needed

CPU: i5-2500k 3.3GHz
MOBO: ASUS P8P67 Pro
RAM: EXCELERAM DDR3 2x4GB, 1600MHz(PC3-12800)
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 100 Million Edition 4GB
PSU: Chieftec 750W
CASE: Thermaltake Armor
MONITOR: LG W2600HP-BF 1920x1200 S-IPS

HDDS: cba to write them all down

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I've been swapping out old hdd's (2 and 3TB) ones for 5 TB ones, thinking of getting 8 TB ones now, Would be great to just stick old hdd's back in and use them as backups

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Tmac

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So, I spent $4500 on an Origin PC and it was the worst mistake of my entire computer-purchasing-life. The only reason I didn't build my own this time around, is because I didn't want to have to deal with the little headaches when things go wrong from building my own. Boy, am I sucker...

I've had the weirdest issues with it and their support SUCKS. For every problem I've had, they basically recommend that I fix it myself and have made no attempt to make it right.

Things that were wrong out of the box:

1. It takes 2 minutes to boot my PC and I have one of the fastest HD's on the market
- They recommended I do a factory reset
- It consistently takes 2 - 3 minutes to boot

2. I have two GPU's and the second GPU isn't recognized by the system (2x GTX 1070's)
- They told me that the SLI connector they shipped w my system doesn't support my GPU's (WTF?) and that they'd send me a new one when they got them in stock
- They never informed me of this when I bought the PC and only informed me of the issue after I brought it up
- They didn't give a delivery date for the new SLI connector and I've heard nothing from them in over a month

3. The LED remote for my case lights doesn't work
- They essentially told me they were sorry

4. I've had a black screen pop up 3x bc the overclock settings failed. The first failure happened THE DAY I received the PC.
- They recommended I do a factory reset

Am I a crazy person or is it a normal expectation, that when you spend $4500 on a PC, this shit should work flawlessly out of the box?
 

Tmac

Adventurer
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So, I spent $4500 on an Origin PC and it was the worst mistake of my entire computer-purchasing-life. The only reason I didn't build my own this time around, is because I didn't want to have to deal with the little headaches when things go wrong from building my own. Boy, am I sucker...

I've had the weirdest issues with it and their support SUCKS. For every problem I've had, they basically recommend that I fix it myself and have made no attempt to make it right.

Things that were wrong out of the box:

1. It takes 2 minutes to boot my PC and I have one of the fastest HD's on the market
- They recommended I do a factory reset
- It consistently takes 2 - 3 minutes to boot

2. I have two GPU's and the second GPU isn't recognized by the system (2x GTX 1070's)
- They told me that the SLI connector they shipped w my system doesn't support my GPU's (WTF?) and that they'd send me a new one when they got them in stock
- They never informed me of this when I bought the PC and only informed me of the issue after I brought it up
- They didn't give a delivery date for the new SLI connector and I've heard nothing from them in over a month

3. The LED remote for my case lights doesn't work
- They essentially told me they were sorry

4. I've had a black screen pop up 3x bc the overclock settings failed. The first failure happened THE DAY I received the PC.
- They recommended I do a factory reset

Am I a crazy person or is it a normal expectation, that when you spend $4500 on a PC, this shit should work flawlessly out of the box?
 

Noodleface

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Dude $4500 USD? Can you list the specs?

4500 is fucking retarded man

None of that is normal in any sense of the word
 

matsb84

Silver Knight of the Realm
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So, I spent $4500 on an Origin PC and it was the worst mistake of my entire computer-purchasing-life. The only reason I didn't build my own this time around, is because I didn't want to have to deal with the little headaches when things go wrong from building my own. Boy, am I sucker...

I've had the weirdest issues with it and their support SUCKS. For every problem I've had, they basically recommend that I fix it myself and have made no attempt to make it right.

Things that were wrong out of the box:

1. It takes 2 minutes to boot my PC and I have one of the fastest HD's on the market
- They recommended I do a factory reset
- It consistently takes 2 - 3 minutes to boot

2. I have two GPU's and the second GPU isn't recognized by the system (2x GTX 1070's)
- They told me that the SLI connector they shipped w my system doesn't support my GPU's (WTF?) and that they'd send me a new one when they got them in stock
- They never informed me of this when I bought the PC and only informed me of the issue after I brought it up
- They didn't give a delivery date for the new SLI connector and I've heard nothing from them in over a month

3. The LED remote for my case lights doesn't work
- They essentially told me they were sorry

4. I've had a black screen pop up 3x bc the overclock settings failed. The first failure happened THE DAY I received the PC.
- They recommended I do a factory reset

Am I a crazy person or is it a normal expectation, that when you spend $4500 on a PC, this shit should work flawlessly out of the box?

Return it. 4500$ to have to deal with those types of issues is nonsense.

I did look at origins cases prior to my build. Some really customizable cases, but decided to go with a CM case instead.
 

Joeboo

Molten Core Raider
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I'd go with their m.2 version if you have the money to spare.

That's not quite as cut & dry as you make it seem (since he supposedly knows nothing of SSDs)

M.2 SATA(the most common kind, and priced comparably with normal SATA SSDs) isn't any faster than regular SATA 3 SSDs. Your Samsung 850 Evo SATA vs Samsung 850 Evo M.2 is going to be pretty much the same thing, there isn't any advantage to M.2 in that case other than freeing up a SATA port for other drives.

Now M.2 PCI-E is where you're going to see the speed gains, and whether that is worth it to you or not is probably subjective. First of all, it's going to use up PCI-E lanes(which could be an issue in multi-video card setups, as your video cards use this same bandwith, a PCIE SSD is basically sharing bandwidth with the video cards in your system) but it can make your SSD 3-4 times faster(in synthetic benchmarks). You're also going to pay a premium for that. A 500GB 850 Evo is about $150, a 500GB 950 PRO PCI-E is double the price, like $320 or so. So you're looking at double the price for the same amount of storage. And what does that speed get you? Maybe windows boots up in 5 seconds instead of 10 seconds. Your favorite game might load in 1 second instead of 2 seconds, etc. Moving from a standard SATA SSD to a PCIE SSD is a performance gain, but it isn't the night & day drastic difference that moving from a HDD to a SSD was.

Honestly, I can't recommend a PCIE M.2 SSD for most people at this point. Most people would be better off buying more storage for the money, the speed increase isn't going to drastically change anything for most people, not as much as the extra storage space would (getting 1TB instead of 500GB, for example)

Also

All of this is moot if you have an older motherboard with no M.2 slots anyways, which if your computer isn't new enough that you didn't already have an SSD, you probably don't have any.
 
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Joeboo

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How did you even spend $4500 on a PC? Was $1500 of that tied up in monitors or something?

I'd have trouble spending $4500 on a PC with anything short of dual Titan video cards in it
 

Noodleface

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I only do server hardware but I assumed desktop motherboards would be the same.

If you have space for multi-vid cards and m.2 drives it shouldn't matter. The PCIE lanes are dedicated to each slot on the board (x16, x8, x4) so just by using an m.2 pcie drive you won't rob the cards of any bandwidth they didn't already have access to.

I could be talking out my ass.
 

Joeboo

Molten Core Raider
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From what I understand, your standard 6th gen Intel processor (i5 6600k, etc) supports 16 PCIE lanes. If you only have 1 device (1 video card) it has access to all 16 lanes. As soon as you add a 2nd device(2nd video card, an M.2 SSd, whatever) then each of the 2 devices get access to 8 lanes. It gets more complex once you hit 3+ devices, as you could have a vid card with 8 lanes, a SSd with 4 lanes, another device with 4 lanes, etc.

But, for all practical purposes, video cards right now don't need 16 lanes, using 8 lanes is no discernable bottleneck (less than 1% drop in performance). Probably wouldn't be an issue unless you're sporting 2+ video cards and other M.2 PCIE devices as well, you probably don't want a video card reduced to just 4 or 2 lanes.