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Xexx

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Damn i have the AK620, Assassin, and the AIO - I wont toss their shit but i am not going to use them moving forward.
 
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Denamian

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That sucks, they've been making some good products the last few years. Getting DH15 or better performance from a $50 or cheaper air cooler was a nice option to have.
 
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Lanx

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Don't buy any Deepcool stuff if you are in the US, their parent Chinese company was selling to sanctioned Russian counterparts for use in datacenters and now they are shut down here.

wat! i was gonna get the newst cooler, looked nice
 

Lanx

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what unfortunate video release time


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Lanx

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Thanks Steve.


any tldr, i might be able to sqeeze this in, but tech jesus takedowns you need to pay attention, i can't just mow the lawn and listen to him beat down ppl speaking broken tech english
 
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Kajiimagi

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Don't buy any Deepcool stuff if you are in the US, their parent Chinese company was selling to sanctioned Russian counterparts for use in datacenters and now they are shut down here.

And here I just put a new build together with a LT720. Hope it lasts.
 

Kajiimagi

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any tldr, i might be able to sqeeze this in, but tech jesus takedowns you need to pay attention, i can't just mow the lawn and listen to him beat down ppl speaking broken tech english
I had an ASUS Tuff (or whatever their armor crate BS line is) motherboard 2 builds ago. That was around the time intel had a lot of CPU vulnerabilities come out. Asus released new BIOS fixes for every MB level except mine. I didn't spend 1K for a motherboard , but this was BS. I emailed about when they would release a BIOS and was effectively told to pound sand. That was the last time I spent a dime on Asus anything. Fuck 'em basically.
 
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Daidraco

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And here I just put a new build together with a LT720. Hope it lasts.
Its actually a really good cooler, as I have one and know. The only complaint is that the LED cap on the pump doesnt retain the color you pick for it at times. Ill restart and its random as fuck whether itll retain the white color I have for everything, versus reverting back to the rainbow default it has.

But like Leadsalad Leadsalad said - I could give a shit what the fuck is happening with Russia and Ukraine. If a company was doing something more heinous, then yea.. of course. But selling consumer grade cooling tech isnt like nVidia selling top of the line AI to them.
 
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Jovec

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any tldr, i might be able to sqeeze this in, but tech jesus takedowns you need to pay attention, i can't just mow the lawn and listen to him beat down ppl speaking broken tech english

FWIW

To recap several of ASUS’ firm changes:
  1. ASUS now has a new inbox called “[email protected]” that they have created specifically to re-process prior RMAs that customers feel were unfairly classified, were misclassified, or charged for a service that should be free
  2. ASUS has provided a template to copy and paste into your email to this address. We are showing it on the screen. You can visit gamersnexus.net to find a copy of this to copy and paste. We do not place third-party ads on our site. The link is below for the template.
  3. ASUS has published a timeline for improvements: June 14th, today, is the publication of this email and template. ASUS has promised us an email this month with other changes.
  4. ASUS has committed to refunds of service charges for unnecessary repairs which customers felt compelled to accept in order to have a warranted repair covered, such as unrelated or misclassified CID
  5. ASUS has committed to refunding shipping charges in scenarios where a warranted repair was part of the RMA. For clarity, if a customer has both an out-of-warranty repair and an in-warranty repair in the same claim, shipping will be covered by ASUS
  6. ASUS has committed to refunding labor and taxes related to these aforementioned qualifying disputes
  7. ASUS has created a Task Force team to retroactively go back through a long history of customer surveys that were negative to try and fix the issues
  8. ASUS has removed the power from the repair centers to claim CID. Now, CID claims must go through ASUS’ team. This will remove some of the financial incentive to fail devices. There still is one, but now it won’t be motivated as much by speed
  9. ASUS is creating a new support center in the US. This will enable customers to choose between a repair of their board or a faster swap with a refurbished board. This solves an issue where refurbs were the only option in some scenarios previously
  10. After over a year of refusing to acknowledge the microSD card reader failures on the ROG Ally, ASUS will be posting a formal statement next week about the defect, resulting from this series
  11. ASUS will publish a more transparent repair report template in September of 2024
  12. ASUS is changing the Advance RMA language to reduce emphasis on physical damage
 

gak

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Intel 13th & 14th Gen Instability Issues Cased By Buggy Microcode, eTVB Fix Issued In New BIOS With "0x125" Microcode

Intel 13th & 14th Gen Instability Issues Cased By Buggy Microcode, eTVB Fix Issued In New BIOS With “0x125” Microcode

Although Intel has yet to publicly issue a statement regarding the serious matter of instability that affects its high-end 13th and 14th Gen CPUs despite saying that it would do so a few months back, it looks like Igor's Lab has discovered internal documents (NDA) which spill the beans on what has been causing these issues from the start.

The first reports of Intel's 13th and 14th Gen Instability issues can be found more than a year back across various forums and Steam's per-game discussion pages where gamers started seeing the issue on a common basis. The issue then came to the limelight earlier this year when more & more people started having issues.

The issues were so bad that gamers were returning their entire PCs and getting new ones with AMD Ryzen CPUs instead. Although a fix was provided after Intel forced its board partners to issue "Intel Default Settings" as the default options for power limits, this caused a severe drop in performance which meant that reviewers and tech outlets had to redo the entire 13th & 14th Gen reviews using settings that were stable and didn't caused any problems to end users.

In the documents, Intel states that the root cause happens to be an incorrect value within the microcode algorithm associated with the eTVB (Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) feature that comes with 13th and 14th Gen Unlocked CPUs. The increased frequency and the corresponding high voltages which lead to high temperatures can lead to a reduction in the processor's reliability which is more or less saying that your CPU will degrade over time. Knowing that Intel's 13th Gen CPUs have been out for over a year, most if not all processors, that have had this issue are now suspected of severe degradation.

"Root Cause Root cause is an incorrect value in a microcode algorithm associated with the eTVB feature.
Implication Increased frequency and corresponding voltage at high temperature may reduce processor reliability.
Observed Found internally.
Impacted platforms Raptor Lake S, Raptor Lake Refresh S (CPUID 0xB0671)
via Igor's Lab"

It's easy to tell that a CPU has been degraded because games would crash, you will frequently get BSOD or your PC will fail to start. These are just a few notifiers but for myself, my chip started to face serious problems once summer arrived. The higher temperatures plus the heat that the CPU was already producing meant that the degradation process was accelerated. So the only option is to revert to Underclock/Undervoltage or stick with default power limits which reduce the capability of the chip by pushing the limits down from 253W to 125W at the baseline.

So what's the resolution to this issue? Well a new BIOS will soon be rolled out with the necessary microcode, version 0x125 or later. Intel will ask customers to update the BIOS of their PCs by 7/19 (2024). It is not known if the warranty will expire if the user doesn't update his BIOS or if Intel will offer an extended warranty to users since their chips have already been degraded to some extent. Following is the full statement:

"Failure Analysis (FA) of 13th and 14th Generation K SKU processors indicates a shift in minimum operating voltage on affected processors resulting from cumulative exposure to elevated core voltages. Intel® analysis has determined a confirmed contributing factor for this issue is elevated voltage input to the processor due to previous BIOS settings which allow the processor to operate at turbo frequencies and voltages even while the processor is at a high temperature. Previous generations of Intel® K SKU processors were less sensitive to these type of settings due to lower default operating voltage and frequency.
Intel® requests all customers to update BIOS to microcode 0x125 or later by 7/19/2024.
This microcode includes an eTVB fix for an issue which may allow the processor to enter a higher performance state even when the processor temperature has exceeded eTVB thresholds.
via Igor's Lab"

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Denamian

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any tldr, i might be able to sqeeze this in, but tech jesus takedowns you need to pay attention, i can't just mow the lawn and listen to him beat down ppl speaking broken tech english
 

gak

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Intel denies reports that it identified a root cause for Core i9 crashing issues — investigation continues

Intel has confirmed to Tom's Hardware that reports it has solved the root cause of the Core i9 crashing issues are false. Intel's statement is counter to German publication Igor's Lab, which reported earlier today that Intel had discovered the root of the problems affecting the stability of 13th Raptor Lake and 14th Generation Raptor Lake Refresh Core i9 processors, spawning a wave of reporting that claimed a fix would arrive via a firmware patch.

"Contrary to recent media reports, Intel has not confirmed root cause and is continuing, with its partners, to investigate user reports regarding instability issues on unlocked Intel Core 13th and 14th generation (K/KF/KS) desktop processors," Intel said in a statement sent to Tom's Hardware. "The microcode patch referenced in press reports fixes an eTVB bug discovered by Intel while investigating the instability reports. While this issue is potentially contributing to instability, it is not the root cause.”

Igor's Lab claimed to have obtained an internal document, reportedly under NDA, highlighting the instability's underlying cause was "an incorrect value in microcode algorithm associated with the eTVB feature." If you're unfamiliar with eTVB (enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost), it's a feature that resourcefully overclocks the processor's cores above the maximum turbo frequency when certain conditions are met. eTVB only kicks in when there is enough thermal and power headroom.

eTVB technology is an exclusive feature for Intel's Raptor Lake chips, specifically the Core i9 SKUs. eTVB is a great asset for Core i9 processors since it gives them a burst of performance in games and applications that prize high clock speeds.

According to the purported failure analysis report cited by Igor, Intel detected a displacement in the minimum operating voltage on the Core i9 parts due to exposure to elevated core voltages.

It appears that Intel can remedy this specific issue with a firmware update. However, the root cause of the instability issues has still not been identified.

Intel had previously noted that motherboard vendors needed to enable the required safety features instead of tuning their firmware for maximum performance and making processors run outside their specifications. This action forced manufacturers to release updated firmware with Intel Baseline Profiles that ensure all of the chips' safety mechanisms are enabled.

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Daidraco

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We've been shitting on AMD for so long, that it was only a matter of time for intel to have issues. Though, I havent had a single problem with the 13 series when I had one, or the 14 series I have now. But they can surely give me a new processor if all this is true. I have no loyalty to computer parts, lul.
 

Jovec

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Intel knows, they just don't want to admit it's voltage and degradation because they don't want the liability (or bad publicity but that ship has sailed). They probably assumed the CPUs would successfully self-regulate through throttling. Intel has no clear restrictions on power limits, and does not validate motherboards from their partners. Every Intel CPU I've had since my 2700k I've hand-tuned the voltage (and thus power consumption) down with no loss in performance. Same with AMD. I fully acknowledge that users should not need to do this and that Intel and AMD should have sane defaults.

This contrasts slightly with the recent AMD SoC voltage issue - it was in spec, but AMD set that spec too high. They adjusted the spec and provided replacements to those affected.
 

Pemulis

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Compared to the days of jumpers and pretty user-unfriendly BIOS settings, building a new PC is easier than most Lego sets. I’ve done three new builds in the last ten years, and each one has been easier than the last. Before that, I hadn’t built anything since DAoC/WoW
 
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