DOTA 2
- Thread starter Bels_sl
- Start date
-
Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Intrinsic
Person of Whiteness
- 15,031
- 13,125
Was thinking about Lina and Wind too, but they've both been out of meta so long it may take some working. They both have abilities that cut a generous amount of trees, are somewhat spammable, and since MK wants to hang out around trees the shackle position is already set up. Plus I like WR and Lina and want excuses to play them.
Needless
Toe Sucker
- 9,397
- 3,412
I don't even know wtf the meta would be right now, everything is so different but i love it. SOOOO much team fighting now. It's like im playing a way better of HOTS again lol
Nimbus on zeus' aghs is soooo fun. We had a SB charge somebody, i'd nimbus on top, he'd ult and just perma stun lock people lol
Nimbus on zeus' aghs is soooo fun. We had a SB charge somebody, i'd nimbus on top, he'd ult and just perma stun lock people lol
- 11,217
- 2,365
Nimbus definitely looks good but it reminds me of Furion's Agh where it feeds the enemy a ton of gold so you better end fast.
The lvl 25 stuff didn't look that interesting cause it was very uncommon to get 25 before but from what I've seen people reach 25 a lot faster now. I guess the bounty runes help maybe? I'm not entirely sure since the xp curve didn't change that much other than cutting 2 levels, and I don't think much of the xp was otherwise changed, maybe kill xp was changed? Feels kinda weird to see so many people besides Meepo hitting lvl 25 30mins in. They also help games dragging on, by adding a large boost to endgame power levels. And it should be nice to tweak certain heroes lategame without changing their early game, like if a hero is too good late, can just nerf his talents, and if he scales poorly late, can just buff the talents. Changing stat growth or skills could have weird results with their early game. Oh and everyone skill all their shit, so even though the skills might not have been as good as stats before, now you have them. Heroes like Gyro, AA, Ogre and so on.
The lvl 25 stuff didn't look that interesting cause it was very uncommon to get 25 before but from what I've seen people reach 25 a lot faster now. I guess the bounty runes help maybe? I'm not entirely sure since the xp curve didn't change that much other than cutting 2 levels, and I don't think much of the xp was otherwise changed, maybe kill xp was changed? Feels kinda weird to see so many people besides Meepo hitting lvl 25 30mins in. They also help games dragging on, by adding a large boost to endgame power levels. And it should be nice to tweak certain heroes lategame without changing their early game, like if a hero is too good late, can just nerf his talents, and if he scales poorly late, can just buff the talents. Changing stat growth or skills could have weird results with their early game. Oh and everyone skill all their shit, so even though the skills might not have been as good as stats before, now you have them. Heroes like Gyro, AA, Ogre and so on.
Needless
Toe Sucker
- 9,397
- 3,412
last few games i played today i was near 25 even on supports that were 40-45-ish minutes.
Zeus - 40:39 - Level 25
Ogre - 46:06 - Level 23
Axe - 46:55: Level 25
Batrider - 49 - Level 25
Timber - 36 - Level 25
Vengeful - 40:10 - Level 25
I think the sheer amount of kills that happen in a game makes it so much quicker, i dont think a single game i played had less than 45 kills for each team at minimum lol
Zeus - 40:39 - Level 25
Ogre - 46:06 - Level 23
Axe - 46:55: Level 25
Batrider - 49 - Level 25
Timber - 36 - Level 25
Vengeful - 40:10 - Level 25
I think the sheer amount of kills that happen in a game makes it so much quicker, i dont think a single game i played had less than 45 kills for each team at minimum lol
Is there anyway to put the kill/death messages in the left side where they always used to be. Putting it on the other side away from the minimap is so stupid and counterintuitive. I think that's the number 1 thing that pisses me out of this patch, I just can't get used to this new map/version.
- 11,217
- 2,365
Lol watching a random pro game from some chinese tournament, CDEC vs EHOME, 61mins game, 69-67 score, everyone lvl 25, most people 6slotted including the supports, Jakiro with like 1200 attack range and deso/deadalus sieging buildings like a sniper, shit's pretty hilarious.
Dandain
Trakanon Raider
- 2,092
- 917
Disruptor is a professional monkey catcher, most people don't realize Thunder Strike has a solid vision component that makes it sync with glimpse very well, but more important, it grants flying vision. Even if the monkey goes into the trees your team can beat the shit out of him if you prioritize getting him tagged with Thunder Strike, all your other skills follow from there. Kinetic Field also grants vision. Glimpse can suck him out of the trees. And Ulti can lock him down.
Monkey is like Ursa, never let him build his 4 strike boost, or you have to run away from pure manfights if he has that buff.
Also a comment on level 25, people are intentionally dragging games out right now to see these skills.
(this is at 4.5k ranked)
I almost always play support, and try to push my team towards winning. 5 wins, 1 loss. 2 games ended with zero 25s. 1 had 3, and 3 had 2~. I believe the lower in mmr you go, the more games are gonna get dragged out (especially now) because people want to play with the talents. Its like an extended version of every 2k cores desire to be 6slotted before the games end.
When you do get that 60 minute Dota game though, the new talents really create a chaotic situation right now due to all the new shit coming out.
Monkey is like Ursa, never let him build his 4 strike boost, or you have to run away from pure manfights if he has that buff.
Also a comment on level 25, people are intentionally dragging games out right now to see these skills.
(this is at 4.5k ranked)
I almost always play support, and try to push my team towards winning. 5 wins, 1 loss. 2 games ended with zero 25s. 1 had 3, and 3 had 2~. I believe the lower in mmr you go, the more games are gonna get dragged out (especially now) because people want to play with the talents. Its like an extended version of every 2k cores desire to be 6slotted before the games end.
When you do get that 60 minute Dota game though, the new talents really create a chaotic situation right now due to all the new shit coming out.
Last edited:
Mao
Trakanon Raider
- 641
- 1,593
Disrupter can be a lil awkward for people new to him and so I don't think a lot of people really give him a shot. For instance I played with a disrupter last night that kept glimpsing people out of this prison and ult. He would never get them placed properly or would misjudge etc. He's pretty good if you can get some practice with him but I think a lot of players just look at it, try it once or twice and just go Nope.
drtyrm
Lord Nagafen Raider
- 1,991
- 155
I think the other factor was Kunkka was so strong for so long. They sort of fill the same catch role.
I had Treant + Techies duo in my game. They tp'd out and went to enemy bounty. Mined it, bait with Techies for a boom + Tree punch for a quick first blood. I laughed.
I had Treant + Techies duo in my game. They tp'd out and went to enemy bounty. Mined it, bait with Techies for a boom + Tree punch for a quick first blood. I laughed.
- 11,217
- 2,365
He tends to be a bit technical, but he's a good hero, picked in competitive pretty often too. Trick to glimpsing into stuff is to just glimpse first then cast the rest on the marker, unless you have a really good feel for the glimpse rewind time thing and can remember exactly where the hero was 4secs before(or whatever the duration is I haven't played in forever), it's just easier that way. You have enough time to glimpse, find the blue dot, put a prison over it then ult as it brings back the target right in it.
Another thing I guess people don't like about Disruptor is he does like shit for damage, making him annoying to play in pubs cause you're never getting shit for items unless you can find free lanes to farm in. Easily one of the worst heroes in the game to kill some random jungle creeps, especially if you don't max his lightning strike first(and imo you really shouldn't considering).
Dandain
Trakanon Raider
- 2,092
- 917
If you use Thunder Strike to time it, it pulses every 2 seconds, and is 6 seconds in duration. Thunder Strike's vision also means your glimpse can't be fogged. The person will return after 3 pulses to the original cast point, and the final tick will send them to the second tick (4 ticks total). This can be used to also keep yourself patient so you can hold someone while your team arrives. Using Field and Ult a few seconds later.
and they always queue together