Dune (2020)

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This is a pretty wild take considering Prometheus had the most retarded writing of any scifi film in the last decade. Prometheus' main fault was nothing that happened made any sense whatsoever. That was not an issue in this film.
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If you didn't read the books it would be very hard to consume this movie.

There is a ton of subtext that was missing, and the characters never had a minute to meld into their role.
 
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Voyce said:
If you didn't read the books it would be very hard to consume this movie.

There is a ton of subtext that was missing, and the characters never had a minute to meld into their role.
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Not disagreeing with that possibility, just saying that comparing it to Prometheus is wild.
 
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Voyce said:
If you didn't read the books it would be very hard to consume this movie.

There is a ton of subtext that was missing, and the characters never had a minute to meld into their role.
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Even if you did read the books you still might have to watch it a couple of times. This story is tough to follow.

Ironically, I remember being less confused during Prometheus (didnt' read any books) than I was with Dune (read 3/4 of the book).
 
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Not disagreeing with that possibility, just saying that comparing it to Prometheus is wild.
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It's pretty apt, really good visuals, but missing the substance that it should have.

Which is strange if you lay it against his other work 2049, which just lets you soak in the atmosphere, the world they are living in, sub plots that don't inherently add to the main plot, but build out the world and the characters.

I'll definitively watch part two if it gets made, but it's not at the level that I would expect.

Like where's the scene with all the plants and how much water it takes to keep them alive...instead we get this little tiny bit about a dozen palm trees, a lack of attention to small but important scenes.

And I get a naturalist vibe from Chani, as opposed to Freman Practicality, it comes across more as Museum Freman talk, not people that actually have to live in the desert. Wasn't Chani astounded to hear about the Oceans of Calderon?
 
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Voyce said:
If you didn't read the books it would be very hard to consume this movie.

There is a ton of subtext that was missing, and the characters never had a minute to meld into their role.
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The only people I know that didn't like this movie are some of the people that read the books. All of us that haven't read the books loved the movie.
 
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lurkingdirk said:
I just read the book with my 13 year old. Is the movie appropriate to take him to? He really wants to see it. I generally am pretty lax about what my kids see, so this is likely okay, right?
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How do you read a book with a 13 year old?
 
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LOL I was thinking the same thing.

Did he read it out loud to his teenage son?
 
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My mother read Bilbo the Hobbit to my brother and I, but we were a lot younger than 13 I am sure. Maybe father and son read on their own, but they talk about what they read after every chapter or something ?
 
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Szlia said:
My mother read Bilbo the Hobbit to my brother and I, but we were a lot younger than 13 I am sure. Maybe father and son read on their own, but they talk about what they read after every chapter or something ?
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Yeah maybe they read books while they're taking their bath or something, who knows.
 
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Why are you faggots so desperate to vilify parenting? Probably just means they read it at the same time.
 
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Aldarion said:
Do you have a source for the idea that the great enemy was going to use prescience? Interesting idea that I don't remember.
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When Siona is tripping on spice, the entire conversation heavily implies prescience is being used to hunt humanity down--and Leto specifically says that's why she must breed. There are a lot of other examples, but I'd have to read it again--they are all subtle implications but there are a bunch of them.
 
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I didn't think much of him until I accidently came across "The King" and watched it. That's when I got excited about his choice as Paul. I am huge fan now.
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100% this. The King totally changed my mind on the dude as Paul. It also helps that he has the frame for what I imagined Paul to roughly look like in my mind's eye.
 
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100% this. The King totally changed my mind on the dude as Paul. It also helps that he has the frame for what I imagined Paul to roughly look like in my mind's eye.
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There's a handful of young actors that really don't get the credit they deserve. I think this Timothee kid has been one of them, but he's pretty new on the scene.

Ben Foster & Paul Dano are the 2 main guys that come to mind for me. Actually I guess both of them are doing pretty well nowadays, so maybe I'm just stuck in an old thought. I was a fan of Paul Dano after Ballad of Jack & Rose, and Ben Foster after Alpha Dog.
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Seananigans said:
How do you read a book with a 13 year old?
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We listen to the book together while driving or sitting on the deck or whatever. Pause it to have conversations about what's happening in the book and what we think it will lead to. It's really great time together. I do this with all my kids when possible.
 
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lurkingdirk said:
We listen to the book together while driving or sitting on the deck or whatever. Pause it to have conversations about what's happening in the book and what we think it will lead to. It's really great time together. I do this with all my kids when possible.
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That's awesome, and what I figured. Saying "read with my 13 year old" instead of "listen to" provided some possibility for lulz.

I'm sure bath time is still fun even if you don't read books!
 
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Drinsic said:
just saying that comparing it to Prometheus is wild.
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As someone who hasnt seen it yet, it sounds like they dumbed it down based off the responses. This movie is 2 1/2 hours and just part 1 yet theyve left out notable characters?

But at the same time its said to not be "bad" and visually stunning so thats good enough in 2021.
 
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