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Is there any way for me to watch the miniseries? Seems like it's well reviewed in this thread, but not finding it readily available to stream
Faggots can't be the villain anymore.he had certain effeminate affectations in the book.
- points the wiki makes: He also makes the Bene Gesserit, who basically have super powers, into the Fish Dancers, his private army, who will become Atreides super-rapists to pass on their super speed and skills into human blood lines.
I just read the book with my 13 year old. Is the movie appropriate to take him to? He really wants to see it. I generally am pretty lax about what my kids see, so this is likely okay, right?
Faggots can't be the villain anymore.
That’s what it is too isn’t it?Faggots can't be the villain anymore.
Yes. He wasn’t making a joke.That’s what it is too isn’t it?
Yeah he’ll be fine. I haven’t read the book since I was around his age but I’m pretty sure it had worse things than this movie.I just read the book with my 13 year old. Is the movie appropriate to take him to? He really wants to see it. I generally am pretty lax about what my kids see, so this is likely okay, right?
You don’t need to read messiah or children, I skipped Children. Messiah is so short it doesn’t matter (its also more of an epilogue than an actual story), but just know that Paul has a son named LetoThanks nu_11, that actually makes sense.
I should read the book, I just dont want to have to read Children and isnt there another book before GEOD? I read Dune so I would have to read 2 more books before I get to God Emperor.
So prescience, or the ability to avoid its effects was the most crucial plot point of GEOD?
And his tyrant behavior consisted of forcing humanity to stagnate and regress?
I was just interested in the character as he seems so utterly ridiculous, yet many people respect him as a protagonist, and interestingly, also the antagonist.
Also, does the Golden Path include subjugating humanity for 3500 years before ensuring their survival?
Couldnt of Leto II just fucking killed himself instead of going through all of the trouble with taking over breeding programs and creating a one of a kind non prescient to kill him to ensure the golden path?
I just read the book with my 13 year old. Is the movie appropriate to take him to? He really wants to see it. I generally am pretty lax about what my kids see, so this is likely okay, right?
Not sure why all of the Harkannons had to be bald, not sure I remember that in the books.
Baron was too brass and tacks, he didn’t come accross as conniving and smarmy, he had certain effeminate affectations in the book.
Its been standard practice for 20 years that you cant portray gays as bad or devious or evil.BUT, both changes above in the new movie just screams of PC. "can't offend gays or gingers" So they make them all ugly and bald?
Yeah, he does surprisingly well in physical roles. That said, they really do need to feed him a few hamburgers for the second part of the film if its made. Him bulking up some would go a LONG way into selling the idea that he's gone from boy to man in the desert.Anyone who thinks of Timothee Chalamet as frail needs to go to Netflix right now and watch "The King" with Joel Edgerton. Chalamet is thin but after seeing his performance as "Hal"/Henry V in that, with his version of the St. Crispin's Day speech, I don't think of him as frail in the slightest. If your only exposure to him is as a gay kid in the "Call me by your name" or whatever movie, he's an actor: That's what he does. And he is a great fucking actor. Don't misinterpret his thinness for weakness.
I didn't think much of him until I accidently came across "The King" and watched it. That's when I got excited about his choice as Paul. I am huge fan now.
That's right, I wasn't 100% if I was mixing characters up from other works.The Baron is explicitly a Homosexual in the books. I remember one part in the books where they try to assassinate him by having some sort of needle on the side of the ass of one of his fuck toys. Also, that scene in the first movie where the young/handsome Harkannon is tending flowers in his room, while trembling like a leaf right before the Baron pulls his heart plug out and tenderly holds his head while he dies was one of the most terrifying sequences in the movie.
The Harkoonens all being red-haired in the first movie was cool, Though I can't remember if that was the case in the books.
BUT, both changes above in the new movie just screams of PC. "can't offend gays or gingers" So they make them all ugly and bald?
And who or what where those young waifs in attendance of him? So he is now a pedophile instead of gay?
Is it possible DV picked him for that exact reason? He's young and looks like a boy, but has the acting chops already and can grow into the future incarnations? I was thinking about that when I was driving home yesterday and wondering who they would pick to play Emperor Paul....then figured Timothee might look the part by the time they get there.Yeah, he does surprisingly well in physical roles. That said, they really do need to feed him a few hamburgers for the second part of the film if its made. Him bulking up some would go a LONG way into selling the idea that he's gone from boy to man in the desert.
Do you have a source for the idea that the great enemy was going to use prescience? Interesting idea that I don't remember.Leto was preparing humanity for a "great enemy" that was never revealed by Herbert (His son said it was AI). That enemy was going to use prescience to turbo fuck humanity. So Leto made himself the bad guy, and let humanity work out strategies to avoid prescience while he was the target (And he didn't use prescience to destroy them in that time--just make life miserable so they'd want to develop those strategies to kill him). This was more than just the breeding program giving rise to prescience resistant humans, it was also things like no-ships and no-rooms (Which interfere with prescience and allow even normal humans to make plans/move without being detected)
In addition, he wanted to scare humans enough to WANT to strike out into the unkown and expand beyond imperial space...Which his tyrannical rule did. He wanted this as an additional layer of protection from "the great enemy", so it would be far more difficult to subjugate or eradicate all of humanity--both because they'd be physically harder to find AND because unique human cultures might find different techniques to deal with enemies.
The more I think of this movie the more I’m reminded of Promethus, great visuals, poor substance. Which is insane since its based on the best science fiction series ever written