Elden Ring - From Software + George RR Martin

PS if you rocked Blasphemous for the knockdown, you should really consider the Ruins GS. Its Strike damage and has always had the better poise damage, both with swings and the weapon art.

Bald Brah said:

Yes but it's such a slow weapon. It's good for farming but the damage doesn't scale nearly as well. You can't use a scorpion charm or cracked tear on it. It caps around 2k where blasphemous blade can be pushed to almost 4k. And blasphemous blade heals you every time you use it so you can heal through some encounters just spamming it and tanking hits. Hitting 3 trash mobs with takers flame at once is better than a flask of cerulean tears. And you can even heal off rabbits and stuff.

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Its way more mana efficient and better at dealing damage to bosses, if you need some distance to tap them from. Plus Strike seems to be the best universal physical damage type for most things, just like the main game. And it ragdolls a lot of stuff. Think it poise broke Mesmer in three hits, too, when I helped a rando kill him.

Derkon said:

The final boss is legit insane and I don't know what to do. Full tank build with fingerprint shield/sword lance weapon from DLC. 19 on the global buff and it's still not enough.

May have to just bite the bullet on this and summon someone, this is by far the most insane FROM boss. Never had to summon an actual player before for any boss.

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Think I've said it before but I'm just glad that now the game (and entire series) has several more bosses on that Malenia/Isshin tier (Rellana, Lion, maybe the hippo, etc). Messmer and Bayle are above that tier and it sounds like the final boss is above THAT. From has officially gone fully balls to the wall.

That said, I'm pretty sure a few of these fights are going to be nerfed before long, and people will be able to brag about defeating "pre-nerf Bayle" and whatnot.

LMAO Bloodfiends arm is so freaking broken. That's gotta be getting nerfed in the next few days I'd think. Literally poise breaks final boss in like 4 hits and completely trivializes that fight.

So when farming the fire knight for the greatsword you also farm the same one for the armor? That armor looks awesome!

ronne said:

What's your bros general progression route been? I did the lion beast and Rennela so far, but now I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do next.

I don't know how to get in to Shadow Keep and have just been out exploring elsewhere, but everyone claims the keep is not endgame and more like midgame? Meanwhile I'm out here fighting huge fuckin dragons and shit that feel like every endgame kind of stuff.

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Stuff you can do at Shard Level 1-3 reliably (in suggested order)
Lion Beast (maybe Gaol guy first if you are unga and a masochist)
Runebear Boss
Rellana
Shadow Keep Hippo

Stuff where you want to be Shard Level 4-7
Clear out Shadow Keep, except Mesmier. The game will seem like you should kill him, but its better to put him off until later (and more Shard levels).
Scorpion Rot Centaur Bitch (lot of good side loot on the runup to her)
Numerous Mini dungeon bosses (Shadow Catacombs, outdoor Hippos, Bleed Berzerk Toll in the river area, Black night behind Moohr, ect)
All Dragons that are not Bayle (lots of ways to exploit them if you need to and all drop lots of runes and dragon stones)
Uzi Spear guy (Jori I think?)
Cerelian Coast minibosses (Dancer, Death Bird, Undead Dragon)

Stuff you should knock out once you are 9-11 or more Shard Level
Hinterlands minibosses (Falling Star Beast #371, Sentinals)
Putrid Rider
Frenzied Flame Avatar
Metyr Questline (first parts are easy, but its a long hike to get to all the places and the last guy is a gravity magic spam machine)
Pig Rider Commander Gay (can be exploited and is super weak to bleed or spear/shield counterpoke)
Mesmer (by now you will have all the better tools from the DLC to deal with him)
Golden Hippo
Flower Boss (who obeys Nintendo rules where you have to kill it three times)

That is roughly where I am at. I am currently stuck on Bayle who just Bobby Boucher's me right off the bat every time. There are probably a couple hidden bosses and side dungeons I have to locate, along with two more Gaol mausoleums, the gigantic burning man dudes, and whatever the last boss is. I have not burned the tree yet, because I want to explore all I can first and get more Shard Levels (presently at 13). I did not do those in that order, since I had no fucking clue what was what, but when I do this with other characters thats my intended progression.

Bald Brah said:

I can't believe the regular fire knight helm off the shit heads is as good as an erdtree talisman. Ridiculous for a piece of armor.

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It is literally the only item my sorcerer is wearing from the DLC.

Bald Brah said:

The DLC bosses seem to drop aggro on your spirit the very first time you hit them. Messmer seems to just ignore spirits completely. Just running around the room not attacking at all he will jump away from the spirit and smack me all the way across the room. I was trying to see how low the mimic and that wormy guy could get him on their own.

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This is not my experience at all. I'm too old and retarded to bother flexing my epeen, I use a summon for any fight that allows it. They hold aggro just fine, you have to just understand how it works. I also do not have the same experience of not being able to buff before a fight. Putrid Knight, I was able to fall down, summon poopman, use physik flask, use prawn, then dodge roll in time.

Rajaah said:

Think I've said it before but I'm just glad that now the game (and entire series) has several more bosses on that Malenia/Isshin tier (Rellana, Lion, maybe the hippo, etc). Messmer and Bayle are above that tier and it sounds like the final boss is above THAT. From has officially gone fully balls to the wall.

That said, I'm pretty sure a few of these fights are going to be nerfed before long, and people will be able to brag about defeating "pre-nerf Bayle" and whatnot.

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Bayle is similar to Melenia, but Mesmer is not nearly as hard as Melenia. He is just a ramped up standard DLC Spam AoE and wombo combo chip damage with froggy agro type boss. The big thing with him is you have to get a few things from the DLC before having a reasonable fight (certain spells for casters, Shard Levels, fire resistances, ect) where a single mistake (or him spamming grab/14 hit chip combo) does not result in an auto loss. I would compare him more closely to Maeleketh, who has similar bullshit and also is required for progression.

Rajaah said:

Think I've said it before but I'm just glad that now the game (and entire series) has several more bosses on that Malenia/Isshin tier (Rellana, Lion, maybe the hippo, etc). Messmer and Bayle are above that tier and it sounds like the final boss is above THAT. From has officially gone fully balls to the wall.

That said, I'm pretty sure a few of these fights are going to be nerfed before long, and people will be able to brag about defeating "pre-nerf Bayle" and whatnot.

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I one shot the dancing lion, one shot rellana, and two shot the hippo. They're all quite aggressive, but I would not rate either of those 3 as ridiculous as Malenia. The fact she has two phases and heals puts her way above those three.

I would rate Messmer as someone who is top tier, haven't fought Bayle or final boss yet but they're probably similar.