EQ Never

Grim1 · Jul 26, 2013

Droigan_sl said:
I am less hyped about EQN than I was Vanguard, that is not due to wanting the game less, but because I know nothing.

That, and we are all ultra-sensitized to hype because of all the perceived* failures that have happened since our lost days of innocence in the fabulous fabled land of Antonica.

* I say "perceived" because even though most gamers (and especially UT) consider 99 percent of mmos to be failures, the fact is that almost all mmos make boatloads of money for the gaming companies involved. I can assure you that the suits who own these companies don't consider their mmos to be failures, while they drive their Ferrari's to the bank with their dividend checks.

Quaid · Jul 27, 2013

CAN I GETTA HALLELUJAH

Rezz · Jul 27, 2013

tad10_sl said:
Good can be subjective. I agree with an earlier post by either convo or flipmode - whatever eqn is, it isn't eq1 redux or vg redux. That's why I worry about shit like action-oriented combat. For some people on this thread EQ lore + action rpg combat = orgasm. For me, not so much. As Zehn, DMX, Draegen, Rezz, et. al. have commented no matter what gets revealed on the 2d maybe 1/2 the thread will cheer and the other 1/2 will be out for Butler & co.'s blood.

Managing expectations by viewing expected results through the lens of statistically logical outcomes. It's nice to imagine that all lessons have been learned and that something truly innovative is imminent. It just isn't very likely given the times/technology/people working on it. Odds are if its got enough interesting aspects, I'll play it to see them in action. If they have SKs, the odds increase dramatically. If it's literal shit on a shingle, then I'll pass. Hard to get hyped up by buzzwords and imagined scenarios when the track record honestly isn't there.

tad10 · Jul 27, 2013

Quaid_sl said:
CAN I GETTA HALLELUJAH

Byr · Jul 27, 2013

better.

rolx_sl · Jul 27, 2013

Rezz_sl said:
Managing expectations by viewing expected results through the lens of statistically logical outcomes. It's nice to imagine that all lessons have been learned and that something truly innovative is imminent. It just isn't very likely given the times/technology/people working on it. Odds are if its got enough interesting aspects, I'll play it to see them in action. If they have SKs, the odds increase dramatically. If it's literal shit on a shingle, then I'll pass. Hard to get hyped up by buzzwords and imagined scenarios when the track record honestly isn't there.

The records there bro see eq1. Your the biggest troll on this board no one gives a shit about your expectations of it sucking every post. Every time I hit this forum to see if theres any new news ur on here spilling how much its gona blow qft.

Carl_sl · Jul 27, 2013

rolx_sl said:
The records there bro see eq1. Your the biggest troll on this board no one gives a shit about your expectations of it sucking every post. Every time I hit this forum to see if theres any new news ur on here spilling how much its gona blow qft.

And I'm the troll/alt account.

Honestly though even if it was eq2 reskinned with a better combat system and some of this "sandboxy" stuff they keep mentioning I'd be in for the long haul. I'd rather it be better than that but at least it wouldn't be as shitty as the alternatives.

tad10 · Jul 27, 2013

Carl_sl said:
And I'm the troll/alt account.

No, you're the janitor.

tad10 · Jul 27, 2013

qwerty_sl said:
I wouldn't give up hope of it being like EQ, slower paced where each spell matters and hopefully each spell has a cast time too (no more instant spam spells). But that early Vanguard version is long gone. Some people loved it but some people complained it was slow and boring, and Sigil caved immediately because they were a bunch of spineless dick holes with no balls and no money. I feel sorry for them tbh but still.

I didn't really respond to this before but I should state that currently I think it is an even odds that EQN releases with actiony combat - e.g. Wiz creates a fireball, it sizzles in his hand, and he right clicks to throw it in the direction of the target rectacle and it burns everything where it hits (destructable terrain). Unfortunately, I think destructable terrain (mentioned by Smed) works better with actiony combat and actiony combat works better with consoles. As always, we'll see next week.

mkopec · Jul 27, 2013

Who the fuck knows. Im expecting Jesus to show his face. But sadly I know it will be just another let down.

:SADFACE:

drunkpost

Utnayan · Jul 27, 2013

tad10_sl said:
I didn't really respond to this before but I should state that currently I think it is an even odds that EQN releases with actiony combat - e.g. Wiz creates a fireball, it sizzles in his hand, and he right clicks to throw it in the direction of the target rectacle and it burns everything where it hits (destructable terrain). Unfortunately, I think destructable terrain (mentioned by Smed) works better with actiony combat and actiony combat works better with consoles. As always, we'll see next week.

You'll see shit next week.

Listen up campers.

You can take your marketing action-y shit, and your battlefield 4 bullshit, and press your mouse 15 times so that makes it a better MMORPG crap and shove it up your collective asses.

All you sheep following fucksticks. "Sizzles in his hands" are you fucking kidding me? You sound like an IGN commercial you fucking moron.

You have the collective genius of 15 people that should have left the bullshit industry they made in 1999. From management, right on down to the shitter that left us where we are all at today. Fucking morons fighting over free to play, how to get the revenue, how to create less content for the least dollar spent to maximize profits, and in the end, the gamer suffers. Why? See the aforementioned crap.

Post it? Yesterday it was Alex calling their shit out. Today? It's 13 fucking morons trying to protect their web hits with the hope that Faggot #23 from SOE may post in their precious forum while kissing their ass.

EQ Next is a farce. And if you ever want proof? You just look to the last games they created and you and I both know, the infalliability that followed their bullshit. I sit here and watch a bunch of gamers just praying to Christ they will have another fun game to play in this genre, while every other one since 2003 sucked. Why? Have you ever looked at who are making them? From EQ2, to CoH, to GW2, to (insert the next crusade half paid for by viral marketing insert title here) I have seen "Starfleet Dental" on the SA forums take hold, knowing it's a grassroots paid for viral campaign to hop from game to game to make sure people buy their shit..

Why do I know so much? I'll tell you why.

I have folks spilling their beans using me as their mouth piece to let you all know what the fuck goes on in this bullshit industry. That's all it is man. VERY good designers that may be the next Ken Levine having to pull trough the bullshit. And they tell me about it. About 17 now. They find it therapeutic to read my posts. Someone, somewhere, is venting the fucking bullshit. (HI Ut!)

In the end you know what we need? We need some people to stop looking at the dollar ahead of the game when we all know if you do what you should have done, you already would have had it and had funding for the next one.

You fucking people think this game stands a chance? Are you FUCKING serious.... Look who the fuck s behind it. The same morons that lied to your ass and sold incomplete expansions and laughed at you, led by a team that cold faced lied about Vanguard.

Wake the fuck up

Teekey · Jul 27, 2013

This is my favorite part about Utnayan. This guy who just shits on everyone and everything MMO related somehow has all these little spies around the entire industry that just spill their guts out to him.

If you know so much, give us one specific that we will learn on the 2nd that no one but an insider would know.

EverQuest Next may end up sucking ass, but as others have said - it's really not too hard to predict failure in this genre. Yet you still act like fucking Nostradamus because you get to talk down to a bunch of dudes just hoping a game ends up being decent.

It's kind of pathetic, really.

Utnayan · Jul 27, 2013

if you know so much, give us one specific that we will learn on the 2nd that no one but an insider would know.

I already did that years ago, When Butler was fucking around on his wife in THE FUCKING OFFICE.

Anything else dipass?

Jesus Christ Smed. Straighten this shit out.

Edit: Get rid of these viral bullshit artists, and make a fucking fun game. PERIOD. And you and I had already discussed this. I saved the emails. Any other SoE employee under a handle grassroots con artist care to come into the thread?

Teekey · Jul 27, 2013

You want to drop the 'fact' that you have 17 spies letting you know all the inside secrets, and your example of foreknowledge is that some idiot is cheating on his wife? Give me a fucking break.

If you don't want to back up your claims with specifics about the game, then just admit that it's simply because you don't like/trust the guys in charge and stop trying to act like some secret agent.

Edit: Get rid of these viral bullshit artists, and make a fucking fun game. PERIOD. And you and I had already discussed this. I saved the emails. Any other SoE grassroots con artist care to come into the thread?

You really are pathetic. I posted on FoH for years, under the name Believe. I'm sure there's some old timers that can vouch for me. I know a few have played League of Legends with me, and some various FPS games over the years.

Utnayan · Jul 27, 2013

Teekey_sl said:
You want to drop the 'fact' that you have 17 spies letting you know all the inside secrets, and your example of foreknowledge is that some idiot is cheating on his wife? Give me a fucking break.

If you don't want to back up your claims with specifics about the game, then just admit that it's simply because you don't like/trust the guys in charge and stop trying to act like some secret agent.

You are cute.

Those (7 actually) "spies" already told me about this entire thing. You seem to have a hair up your ass. Care to tell the forum why?

Teekey · Jul 27, 2013

Utnayan_sl said:
You are cute.

Those (7 actually) "spies" already told me about this entire thing. You seem to have a hair up your ass. Care to tell the forum why?

"And they tell me about it. About 17 now."

And tell the forum what? I'm sure I'm not the only one that gets a little sick of your chicken little charade about every. fucking. game. I'll give it to you that Vanguard and 38 Studios ended up being a bust- but reading your snobby "I told you so" bullshit nonstop is just obnoxious. Why can't people just talk about a game and maybe hope for the best? Nope, you have to come and tell people they're sheep, or stupid, or any other belittling bullshit. It gets kind of old.

Again, if you want to claim to have knowledge about the 'entire thing', then prove it. If not just shut the fuck up about it

Utnayan · Jul 27, 2013

Here is your boss... You fuck.

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Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: News Today

When it's ready. We blew the game up the first 2 times because we weren't happy that we were moving things forward enough. Now we are in spades.

I wont post the rest because I promised. Now shut the fuck up you little bitch.

Teekey · Jul 27, 2013

Oh man, that really cracks the case. Some 'copied' e-mail header. Color me impressed!

Edit: And regardless of whether you actually do have 'spies', it doesn't change the fact that your relentless pretentious bullshit against people who just want to look forward to afucking video gameis quite pathetic.

Ambiturner · Jul 27, 2013

Utnayan_sl said:
You'll see shit next week.

Listen up campers.

You can take your marketing action-y shit, and your battlefield 4 bullshit, and press your mouse 15 times so that makes it a better MMORPG crap and shove it up your collective asses.

All you sheep following fucksticks. "Sizzles in his hands" are you fucking kidding me? You sound like an IGN commercial you fucking moron.

You have the collective genius of 15 people that should have left the bullshit industry they made in 1999. From management, right on down to the shitter that left us where we are all at today. Fucking morons fighting over free to play, how to get the revenue, how to create less content for the least dollar spent to maximize profits, and in the end, the gamer suffers. Why? See the aforementioned crap.

Post it? Yesterday it was Alex calling their shit out. Today? It's 13 fucking morons trying to protect their web hits with the hope that Faggot #23 from SOE may post in their precious forum while kissing their ass.

EQ Next is a farce. And if you ever want proof? You just look to the last games they created and you and I both know, the infalliability that followed their bullshit. I sit here and watch a bunch of gamers just praying to Christ they will have another fun game to play in this genre, while every other one since 2003 sucked. Why? Have you ever looked at who are making them? From EQ2, to CoH, to GW2, to (insert the next crusade half paid for by viral marketing insert title here) I have seen "Starfleet Dental" on the SA forums take hold, knowing it's a grassroots paid for viral campaign to hop from game to game to make sure people buy their shit..

Why do I know so much? I'll tell you why.

I have folks spilling their beans using me as their mouth piece to let you all know what the fuck goes on in this bullshit industry. That's all it is man. VERY good designers that may be the next Ken Levine having to pull trough the bullshit. And they tell me about it. About 17 now. They find it therapeutic to read my posts. Someone, somewhere, is venting the fucking bullshit. (HI Ut!)

In the end you know what we need? We need some people to stop looking at the dollar ahead of the game when we all know if you do what you should have done, you already would have had it and had funding for the next one.

You fucking people think this game stands a chance? Are you FUCKING serious.... Look who the fuck s behind it. The same morons that lied to your ass and sold incomplete expansions and laughed at you, led by a team that cold faced lied about Vanguard.

Wake the fuck up

I don't know if anything you said is true, but I think I love you

Utnayan · Jul 27, 2013

Teekey_sl said:
Oh man, that really cracks the case. Some 'copied' e-mail header. Color me impressed!

Edit: And regardless of whether you actually do have 'spies', it doesn't change the fact that your relentless pretentious bullshit against people who just want to look forward to afucking video gameis quite pathetic.

You are a dumbass.

Now I will say this.

The bullshit that Smedley gets is bullshit. Christ, last email we talked about how much we both loved Bioshock infinite.

But he is a fucking CEO for christs sake. He has a soft heart for people that made EQ before. Period. I never had him tell me this but I can feel it. I can guarantee you, you are a fuck head, number 1. And Number 2, he should kick these people to the curb and make EQ Next something it should be other than the fast track dollar signs it will earn in the first 6 months. Planetside 2 has taught us both that right? Make the fucking game. The profits will follow.

Learn that whoever the fuck you are.

And FYI: Smedley has nothing to do with the inner workings of SOE. He gets fed BULLSHIT. From the same fuckheads in charge of this project. A guy at the top from corporate America.

All the shit rolls up and downhill. And this is the shit we need to change. Make a FUCKING FUN GAME.

That 39 23 second content slide that made a publisher wonder why the fuck you were doing it when the "player" would see it for 23 seconds? That shit MAKES people talk you dumb fucks! It makes game's unique!

I linked a Bioshock Infinite skip... It was about 21 seconds of a flashback to 1983. A revenge of the jedi (Before George lucas made it Return of the jedi) tag on a sign, tears for fears "Everybody wants to rule the world" as a sound track, and a couple other easter eggs in which that segment lasted about 21 seconds... That segment cost $12,000 to make with licensing. Was it worth it? FUCK YES it was. While everyone was telling Levine to cut it, he qualified it, and that little tid bit, along with others (Beach Boys Barber shop quartet) Not only viral marketed the game, funneled in over an additional $14 million in profit.

Now do the same, you fucking jackasses.

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