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It would be pretty cool if they had events like a random female player giving birth to the game's first wood elf.

Vaclav_sl said:

Player Forge in EQ1/2 is 75% to the creator 25% to SOE IIRC whatever it is almost definitely the same regardless.

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The creater gets what, 75% of the Station Cash? SOE gets 100% of the $US? Something like that?

Did I read it correctly that the trinity will be out? Is this like GW2's system? I actually liked the videos, but if this is true count me out. That shit is dumb in GW2 and the sole reason I don't play it anymore.

Noodleface_sl said:

Did I read it correctly that the trinity will be out? Is this like GW2's system? I actually liked the videos, but if this is true count me out. That shit is dumb in GW2 and the sole reason I don't play it anymore.

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You're correct. No trinity. The internet is in an uproar, and maybe JUST maybe, we can fix it. This game is like 2 years out anyway.

Everyone, go vote.http://www.reddit.com/r/EQNext/comme...e_submissions/

Noodleface_sl said:

Did I read it correctly that the trinity will be out? Is this like GW2's system? I actually liked the videos, but if this is true count me out. That shit is dumb in GW2 and the sole reason I don't play it anymore.

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They said it won't be "used" anymore. Then the long hair guy said that everyone will be in combat, all the time, there won't be room for healers!" and someone else waffled and said there would be support classes.

So much like the rest of the game, vague assertion followed by no concrete method for action.

Noodleface_sl said:

Did I read it correctly that the trinity will be out? Is this like GW2's system? I actually liked the videos, but if this is true count me out. That shit is dumb in GW2 and the sole reason I don't play it anymore.

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they claim that they have played GW2 and understand its mish mash fighting garbage. That doesn't mean that theirs wont be the same or have different issues. At the end of the day we are so in the dark about the game that we can only speculate based on mechanics in other games that have a similar setup, I think its a bad idea on their part and personally I feel they are still designing these things and they don't even have the answers currently.

Lithose_sl said:

Oh, nice, I thought it was flipped. (70/30, in SoE's favor.)

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Oh, actually, your estimate is much closer to the truth.

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"If a player-created item is selected for inclusion in the SOE Marketplace, SOE will share 40% of the net amount it receives from the sale of the item with the player that created the item."

Jeff Buttler was rather firm on the no healers thing. It's like he got dosed and raped by a cleric at the first Fan Faire or something. It's personal.

Its not a bad deal, the people I know who make alot of stuff for PS seems to really like it. I wish they would expand it to armor already because sony is bad at making armor textures.

I think this is a far better deal than the guys who mod most games get. And it will motivate people to make great mods if it really takes off. All the guys who mod skyrim get nothing or all the guys who pour time into making UI mods for WoW, compared to that sony is doing the modders a huge favor.

Big Flex_sl said:

You're correct. No trinity. The internet is in an uproar, and maybe JUST maybe, we can fix it. This game is like 2 years out anyway.

Everyone, go vote.http://www.reddit.com/r/EQNext/comme...e_submissions/

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It was just such a shitty situation in GW2. They tried so hard to make it a unique snowflake, yet if it had the trinity it could've been such a fun game.

Big Flex_sl said:

Jeff Buttler was rather firm on the no healers thing. It's like he got dosed and raped by a cleric at the first Fan Faire or something. It's personal.

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Yeah, I got that impression...Every other line was like "Imagine if the cleric leaves, YOUR GUILD IS DONE!"

I was half expecting him to spas out after one of those lines and scream something "JUST LIKE ON RATHE COUNCIL YOU COMPLETE HEALING WHORE, I HOPE YOU AND OUR DOUCHE BAG MAIN TANK ARE HAPPY TOGETHER!".....Gets control of himself "See, you don't want that to happen--so we're moving past that."

no healers, all dps, all the time. welcome to EQN. please visit our station store for all your healing needs!

etchazz_sl said:

no healers, all dps, all the time. welcome to EQN. please visit our station store for all your healing needs!

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I agree and I already called this like 3 days ago they be selling healing potions in the store get a 12 pack for discount, wait you players cant have trinty np.
But we at SOE cause we care about you players will let you rent healer class mercs daily in the station cash store.

SOE our new Motto is because we care.

I just still can't wrap my head around it. I like playing support only, fuck all that noise. The rest of this game looks really fantastic at what I've seen imo but no trinity is destroying any hope I had.

I guess we can hope for an amazing combat system that would actually make it viable. GW2 didn't adjust for no trinity, maybe EQN can. But I doubt it. I'd rather just be a healer :/

ANOTHER one surfaced.

supertouch_sl said:

I went back and watched some of the Q&A panel and one of the developers said not being able to see at night in EQ was "denial of service." Wait, what?

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"Denial of Service" is just their term mmo dev castration. They are afraid of their own shadows.

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I am very impressed by everything I saw. They learned that the old level-based themepark is just no longer interesting and their whole notion of having a more dynamic world with fully destructible everything is pretty darn amazing. As to what they have been working on? Well its this very concept of how to implement a dynamic world and the whole creation system. They are doing this shit RIGHT people... start with the foundation and basic physics of how the world works and when you have that working and working well then you can implement whatever actual gamified system into that world that you could possibly want.

The world creation that gets polished for and by the EQMinecraft game launching in a few months will set the stage nicely and force the engine to be robust. They are doing something to really change shit up in a meaningful way and I could not be happier.

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etchazz_sl said:

are you really that dumb? there's still leveling in the game, it's just disguised differently and given a new name: tiers. it's still fucking leveling! you are still advancing your character through playing the game. so if that's the case, why not just have LEVELS? horizontal is for fucking, not video games (not that a lot of you WoW tards would know anything about that).

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It's progression and very happy there are no lvls, progress doesn't have to have lvls. Example would be look at AA and faction grinds but in this case its tiers and gear grinding. It isn't even close to current MMO lvling in the scope of things as they suggest. "YOUR" argument about it being still "Lvling" fails when players hit the lvl cap wall and then still continue to gain ground on being more powerful by "Progressing" with content. You can't call it lvling if the character is at max lvl but yet gains power.

So when at maxed lvl in "X game" and the guild cant clear "X raid" without hitting a lower version raid that drops better gear in order to clear that "X raid", is that called lvling? No, it's progression.
If a new zone is opened up with better gear but no lvl cap increase, is that lvling when getting its new and better gear? No, it's progression.

I understand your notion but you are miss using the word. You are wanting the menial tasking concept of hardlocked lvling game style. I do not because its unless timesink, what they are looking to do with a tier system is allow ppl to group up without a hardlock system limiting social interaction gameplay. I think its a good idea but unsure how it will truly work, their lack of giving out info in the hopes of time-release due to advertising is mind-numbing.


Lvling is the illusion of gaining linear power over time when doing menial chores with an end result of having more power but it is a hardlock system that stops players from gaining other means of power until it has been achieved. With each lvl there comes potential replacements of skills, spells and gear. While it can be argued that lvls could resemble tiers, it doesnt then power can be gained and tier unlocks doesnt replace skill, spells or gear but rather unlock potential more options when otherwise unavailable.


They have stated you dont have to go thru all classes to compete with top end, granite it, it will create a different means of segregation to allow elitist to force restrictions to single out other players to fit within their standards but that isn't anything new.
With lvls, players generally just clicked thru content as fast as possible to get to max lvl. At least with this, I have the option NOT to do unlocks for the next tier or unlock a class if I dont want to but can still show up with the guild to help in some capacity. Any content that hits the server will be player unlocked and everyone has a greater chance to help vs only max lvl top ender can help or make the difference.

Yes, you are unset not having the chance to unlock lvl achievements but I am not. But stating tier system is lvling, it is not!

Storybricks and all this other shit is great to talk about. Doesn't mean a damn thing until they actually show it. All EQN is right now is talk.