Fantastic Four

lordvanduu_sl · Aug 12, 2015

Seananigans_sl said:
Yeah, so take note, Everyone-else-besides-Marvel-Studios. Stop flooding the market.

Except Deadpool, you can make that one.

I like the cut of your jib.

Gavinmad · Aug 12, 2015

etchazz_sl said:
Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. This happens in Hollywood all the time if you care to do just the smallest amount of research. It happened with westerns until they made so many of them Hollywood wouldn't touch a script with a horse in it, it happened with sci-fi after the deluge of crappy sci-fi movies came out following the success of Star Wars, and it will happen with the superhero genre as well. It's not really about the genre, it's about chasing the dollar to the point where the movies they're making are so fucking bad but the studios don't realize it because they think just because it's a popular current genre that it'll make money no matter what.

I never said it won't happen, I've predicted more than once that Marvel will start to fumble with Phase 4. I just said it's not going on now.

lordvanduu_sl · Aug 12, 2015

I took my son to see this because he wanted to see it. He was bored through a lot of it, mainly because it was pretty boring for the first 75%. Once things started happening it was ok at best. The only part I really liked was when Doom

was walking through the halls making everybody's heads explode with his funky TK.

But they really should have made Doom more true to the way he is in comics and cartoons. I just don't understand why they won't make him the ruler of Latveria who gets involved with the FF for some reason. I was pretty ok with the way the FF got their powers, but why does FOX keep lumping Doom in to the same origin? They did it in this movie and in the 2005 one.

Gavinmad · Aug 12, 2015

Because they think Latveria is stupid.

Never mind the fact that nobody had a problem with Sokovia.

lordvanduu_sl · Aug 12, 2015

Yeah, I can see Marvel having no problem bringing Latveria into their world.

Lanx · Aug 12, 2015

the simple reason why they keep lumping in Doom as a F4 origin? b/c that's the how it is in the Ultimate Universe, and ppl are dumb and unoriginal so they just would rather run off an already established idea. Why is Fox just copying the Ultimate Universe? cuz it works for Marvel, look at Black Nick Fury! it has to work for FOX!

etchazz · Aug 13, 2015

I have no intentions of ever seeing this movie, but honestly, as an avid comic book collector when I was a kid, Fantasic 4 was one of the worst comic books ever. A guy that can stretch, a dude that can turn into fire, a guy made out of rock, and a chick that turns invisible. Not sure if there is any way to make a good movie out of 4 heroes with such gay ass powers. Dr. Doom was always a cool bad guy, but the Fantastic 4 were always the lamest heroes. Think it's probably best to just let this franchise die.

Homsar · Aug 13, 2015

You can make stretching cool if done right, and make richards intelligence interesting. Human torch can also be easily great even if his personality is lame. Fox has just fucked up and made the powers cheesy

What make Sunspot any different than Torch? The possibilities of Reed breaking in through cracks, sling shooting around like spiderman or whatever can be fun, fox is just terrible

etchazz · Aug 13, 2015

Homsar_sl said:
You can make stretching cool if done right, and make richards intelligence interesting . Human torch can also be easily great even if his personality is lame. Fox has just fucked up and made the powers cheesy

The only way you can make stretching cool is if he's a porn star.

spronk · Aug 13, 2015

sounds like pretty much everything about this movie was a disaster
- Hollywood Reporter - Hollywood Reporter

article_sl said:
Days before Fantastic Four opened, director Josh Trank sent an email to some members of the cast and crew to say he was proud of the film, which, he wrote, was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made."

"I don't think so," responded one castmember.

Sources say Fox believed in what one executive calls a "grounded, gritty version of Fantastic Four that was almost the opposite of previous versions" ? and initially thought Trank could deliver that. Several sources say Fox stood by Trank as he pushed a gloomy tone on young stars Miles Teller, Michael B. Jordan, Kate Mara and Jamie Bell. "During takes, he would be telling [castmembers] when to blink and when to breathe," one person says. "He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."

As filming wound toward an unhappy close, the studio and producers Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker engaged in a last-minute scramble to come up with an ending. With some of the cast not fully available at that point and Kinberg juggling X-Men: Apocalypse and Star Wars, a lot of material was shot with doubles and the production moved to Los Angeles to film scenes with Teller against a green screen. "It was chaos," says a crewmember, adding that Trank was still in attendance "but was neutralized by a committee."

Another story going around was that Trank desperately wanted Miles Teller for Reed Richards even though Fox didn't. He fought tooth and nail to get him but did so in a way that pissed the studio off. Apparently a week later Trank and Teller had already fallen out and were no longer speaking to one another. Trank then phoned the studio and told them that he wanted Teller off the film. They told him, in no uncertain terms, that he'd have to make it work.

There were worrying personal issues as well. As THR reported in May, Trank and his dogs allegedly caused more than $100,000 worth of damage to a rented house in Baton Rouge that he and his wife occupied while the film was shooting there. Sources say now that after landlord Martin Padial moved to evict Trank, photographs of the landlord's family that were in the house were defaced. Padial made a complaint to the local sheriff's department and filed a civil suit in Louisiana that is sealed. Padial's attorney, Michael Bienvenu, declined to comment on the matter. The sheriff's department says the case was "closed as a civil matter between landlord and tenant."

Homsar · Aug 13, 2015

it really comes around to the writer, if you can make spiderman one of the greatest comic characters ever slinging around im pretty sure you can make Reed interesting

Chukzombi · Aug 13, 2015

how the fuck can a couple and some dogs cause more than 100k damage to one room? you could probably buy a fucking house in baton rouge for that much.

Abefroman · Aug 13, 2015

Thank god Trank got booted off Star Wars. What a fucking clown.

Homsar · Aug 13, 2015

It was mentioned the couches could have been up to 20k rugs/carpet could be another 10k+ throw in 10k beds and scratching doors ect. Shit in the house was very nice im assuming and he didnt give a fuck. Lock up a bunch of big ass dogs not trained in a million dollar house and see how much damage they cause

The guy is a straight up retard but fox is even more retarded for hiring the idiot and giving him so much. I still dont understand why people liked chronicle so much, I gave the movie a 5/10 and that was mainly just because the actors were decent and unknowns

Chukzombi · Aug 13, 2015

Homsar_sl said:
It was mentioned the couches could have been up to 20k rugs/carpet could be another 10k+ throw in 10k beds and scratching doors ect. Shit in the house was very nice im assuming and he didnt give a fuck. Lock up a bunch of big ass dogs not trained in a million dollar house and see how much damage they cause

The guy is a straight up retard but fox is even more retarded for hiring the idiot and giving him so much. I still dont understand why people liked chronicle so much, I gave the movie a 5/10 and that was mainly just because the actors were decent and unknowns

still find it hard to believe that much damage was caused in such a short time, you would think that such expensive furniture would be easier to clean. maybe i just have a hard time believing that somebody would be so fucking stupid as to bring their dogs in such a nice place. the guy is indeed a fuckwad. as per chronicle, i guess the thread was on the other board, but the movie wasnt great, i particularly had issue with the emo kid's actions toward the end in regards to saving his mom. what i really loved about that movie was its flying scenes. shit looked cool as hell.

Lanx · Aug 13, 2015

Maester Chuk_sl said:
still find it hard to believe that much damage was caused in such a short time, you would think that such expensive furniture would be easier to clean. maybe i just have a hard time believing that somebody would be so fucking stupid as to bring their dogs in such a nice place. the guy is indeed a fuckwad. as per chronicle, i guess the thread was on the other board, but the movie wasnt great, i particularly had issue with the emo kid's actions toward the end in regards to saving his mom. what i really loved about that movie was its flying scenes. shit looked cool as hell.

Ok, the landlord is Martin Padial, these are his residential listings (he also has some other company that rents out shit, fixes shit, normal companies a landlord would have really)
Listings

the most expensive house in that listing is this one
824 Mossy Oak Ave, Baton Rouge, LA 70810 is Off Market | Zillow

i'm sure fox would just find some agent and rent the most expensive house in their inventory.

It's actually one of the top 3 expensive houses in the area
824 Mossy Oak Ave, Baton Rouge, LA 70810 is Off Market | Zillow

also it seems that no one wanted to buy this house

09/01/14 Listing removed $694,500 $143 Padial Real Es...
07/02/14 Listed for sale $694,500+52.0% $143 Padial Real Es...
06/27/05 Sold: Foreclosure Auction -- $0 Public Record
09/10/04 Sold $457,000 $94 Public Record

from watching a few flipping shows, it seems that Padil bought the house in 2005 at foreclosure, lived in there until last year, wanted to sell it,
couldn't (b/c it's such a high premium)
took it off the market after 2 months of being unsuccessful or fortunate enough that Fox saw it and wanted to rent it out for Trank.

ohkcrlho · Aug 13, 2015

Homsar_sl said:
It was mentioned the couches could have been up to 20k rugs/carpet could be another 10k+ throw in 10k beds and scratching doors ect. Shit in the house was very nice im assuming and he didnt give a fuck. Lock up a bunch of big ass dogs not trained in a million dollar house and see how much damage they cause

The guy is a straight up retard but fox is even more retarded for hiring the idiot and giving him so much. I still dont understand why people liked chronicle so much, I gave the movie a 5/10 and that was mainly just because the actors were decent and unknowns

yeah...Chronicle was ok but not was great or even good.

Gavinmad · Aug 13, 2015

Chronicle was definitely good, just not great. It was a bunch of unoriginal ideas (i.e. weird unpopular teenage kid not fitting in, power corrupts) and presented them in a relatively fresh way. It definitely showed that he had at least some creative talent, but even without the benefit of hindsight it seems like a questionable decision to tap him to direct your relaunch of the F4 IP unless you couldn't find a more established director who wanted the project.

Borzak · Aug 13, 2015

Maester Chuk_sl said:
how the fuck can a couple and some dogs cause more than 100k damage to one room? you could probably buy a fucking house in baton rouge for that much.

In the ghetto. Dunno where they were but when I last lived in BR 2 years ago they filmed a movie in BR and rented the house down the street. It went up for sale when they finally finished up. It was up for sale for $2.5 million. Not sure what rent on something like that would be short term. It was off of Highland (the same road that subdivision runs into) but on the other end near LSU and on 4 acres.

The only thing that part of town has going for it is it's close to the mall.

Borzak · Aug 13, 2015

lanx_sl said:
Ok, the landlord is Martin Padial, these are his residential listings (he also has some other company that rents out shit, fixes shit, normal companies a landlord would have really)
Listings

the most expensive house in that listing is this one
824 Mossy Oak Ave, Baton Rouge, LA 70810 is Off Market | Zillow

i'm sure fox would just find some agent and rent the most expensive house in their inventory.

It's actually one of the top 3 expensive houses in the area
824 Mossy Oak Ave, Baton Rouge, LA 70810 is Off Market | Zillow

also it seems that no one wanted to buy this house

09/01/14 Listing removed $694,500 $143 Padial Real Es...
07/02/14 Listed for sale $694,500+52.0% $143 Padial Real Es...
06/27/05 Sold: Foreclosure Auction-- $0 Public Record
09/10/04 Sold $457,000 $94 Public Record

from watching a few flipping shows, it seems that Padil bought the house in 2005 at foreclosure, lived in there until last year, wanted to sell it,
couldn't (b/c it's such a high premium)
took it off the market after 2 months of being unsuccessful or fortunate enough that Fox saw it and wanted to rent it out for Trank.

If they had waited 2 months they could have sold it for cash in a matter of hours/days for more than the appraised value. My parents sold their house the month after Katrina for cash (IE a lady wrote a check and they took it to the bank and it cleared - it also had a dildo on it since she owned a sex toy business) for more than they were asking for the house.

Thanks for the link. Saw house 2 doors down from where I used to live that was up for sale for $300k that needed major updating. I guess they redid the entire house, it was on the corner and it looks like they changed what was the side of the house into the front. Odd. But it's up for sale for $600k now. Odd place. The house across the road they bought the house for $250 and bulldozed it for the lot and built another house. The house next door they had just added a 2nd story to it and redid it.

Apparently they have been filming a lot of movies in the area according to the news, no idea why.

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