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sakkath

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Yeah Jeuno First Walk was predictably hilarious the first run through with nobody knowing the mechanics. Still easy because it's pretty forgiving plus the caliber of players on the first day tends to be above average.
The pug I joined took 2 attempts on the dragon and 1 shot the other 3.
I still don't understand that mechanic on the first boss where she boots you and everyone goes flying. Does everyone have to set their own angle or is it just the tank that gets targetted? I think I killed like 10 people on that mech the first time I saw it which I was pretty proud of. I'll have to watch a video later and see someone explain it.
 

Folanlron

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Yeah Jeuno First Walk was predictably hilarious the first run through with nobody knowing the mechanics. Still easy because it's pretty forgiving plus the caliber of players on the first day tends to be above average.
The pug I joined took 2 attempts on the dragon and 1 shot the other 3.
I still don't understand that mechanic on the first boss where she boots you and everyone goes flying. Does everyone have to set their own angle or is it just the tank that gets targetted? I think I killed like 10 people on that mech the first time I saw it which I was pretty proud of. I'll have to watch a video later and see someone explain it.

Every person gets the marker, the amount of times Prishe "charges" the hit tells you how far you will get knocked back, it is a modified version of M1 N/S(the only difference is Cat doesn't charge the knock back)
 
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Cybsled

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Yup. When she says "get ready!!!", each time she says it means you fly farther. So if she says it 3x, the farthest trajectory is the one you'll get booted to

Final boss was a bitch - we used like 2 healer LB3 during it

Raid was pretty good. I like how the music roll rewards are tokens now and you can just buy the music roll you want.

As for MSQ, particularly the ending

It makes me wonder who "Fake" Sphene is. Maybe someone involved with the soul to beast transfer project? Or the Alexandrian organization that invented soul transfer (like how Otis was put into a robot). Maybe Galool Ja's mom? She seemed pretty driven, I have to imagine they aren't just going to end her story like they did.

I presume the final scene where you see the POV of a woman in Living Memory is actual Sphere reborn somehow.
 

Folanlron

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It makes me wonder who "Fake" Sphene is. Maybe someone involved with the soul to beast transfer project? Or the Alexandrian organization that invented soul transfer (like how Otis was put into a robot). Maybe Galool Ja's mom? She seemed pretty driven, I have to imagine they aren't just going to end her story like they did.

I presume the final scene where you see the POV of a woman in Living Memory is actual Sphere reborn somehow.


Primal Sphene(Her character is based off of both, Dagger(FF9) and the Girl in the Green Dress, FF4 After Years) the fact that they remembered her after ERASING her from the menos node is a dead give away.
 

Magimaster

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Yup. When she says "get ready!!!", each time she says it means you fly farther. So if she says it 3x, the farthest trajectory is the one you'll get booted to

Final boss was a bitch - we used like 2 healer LB3 during it

Raid was pretty good. I like how the music roll rewards are tokens now and you can just buy the music roll you want.

As for MSQ, particularly the ending

It makes me wonder who "Fake" Sphene is. Maybe someone involved with the soul to beast transfer project? Or the Alexandrian organization that invented soul transfer (like how Otis was put into a robot). Maybe Galool Ja's mom? She seemed pretty driven, I have to imagine they aren't just going to end her story like they did.

I presume the final scene where you see the POV of a woman in Living Memory is actual Sphere reborn somehow.

Raid was fun, for the first week the bosses definitely got hands. Dragon boss baited the hell out of us with the first fire breath; and last boss was brutal since we kept having so many deaths, especially in the second half the fight. Pelupelu society questline has been comfy so far, so thats nice as well.

As for the MSQ:

I firmly believe Neu-Sphene is an Ascian. *insert exasperated Alisae screaming* Having thought over the xpac story so far and what info we haven been given, there's some irregularities in the Alexandrian situation upon reflection that I think point towards Ascian involvement. That being said, I think this Ascian went rogue like Fandaniel and so this is their own plans versus anything the Paragons had going on before with Zodiark.
 
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Cybsled

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I thought a bit more on the MSQ ending for the patch

Ascian would seem too obvious and I don't think they want to use that card yet

Given the plot of the patch, I have a feeling the fake Sphene is Galool Ja's mom. The whole point of the facility was to allow the transfer of souls into other vessels and we know that she was heavily involved with observing and assisting with the project technology. They had moved to human trials with limited success and noted that transfer into beastial bodies resulted in the subject taking on bestial characteristics.

But it stands to reason the soul transfer technology would work just as well with humans or other intelligent life. We also know the Alexandrians succeeded in putting souls into robots (Otis). So my new theorycraft for the story

1) Galool Ja's mom's died and her soul was kept somewhere - maybe Living Memory? Sphene being defeated, and her crown becoming available, would allow someone to potentially hijack her authority. The mom basically impersonates Sphene. As an unintended byproduct of this, "real" Sphene's soul/memories get dumped into another body? would explain the 2nd Sphene at the end of the patch in Living Memory
2) She is a giga simp/stalker of crazy iksar dude, so maybe she is thinking she can save him and put his soul into another body, however there are still kinks in the system that have to be worked out
3) So she creates the Neo Regulators and will effectively run a 5000 person human trial to test the viability of the technology in the hopes she can revive her Iksar bae
4) Shale figures out the plan after she decodes the data logs in 7.2 or 7.3 (she did confirm in the story that she had not yet had a chance to decode anything outside the audio logs)
 
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Cybsled

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The trailer makes it look like ARR, but there is no way it is an actual direct port of that.
 

Merrith

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I thought a bit more on the MSQ ending for the patch

Ascian would seem too obvious and I don't think they want to use that card yet

Given the plot of the patch, I have a feeling the fake Sphene is Galool Ja's mom. The whole point of the facility was to allow the transfer of souls into other vessels and we know that she was heavily involved with observing and assisting with the project technology. They had moved to human trials with limited success and noted that transfer into beastial bodies resulted in the subject taking on bestial characteristics.

But it stands to reason the soul transfer technology would work just as well with humans or other intelligent life. We also know the Alexandrians succeeded in putting souls into robots (Otis). So my new theorycraft for the story

1) Galool Ja's mom's died and her soul was kept somewhere - maybe Living Memory? Sphene being defeated, and her crown becoming available, would allow someone to potentially hijack her authority. The mom basically impersonates Sphene. As an unintended byproduct of this, "real" Sphene's soul/memories get dumped into another body? would explain the 2nd Sphene at the end of the patch in Living Memory
2) She is a giga simp/stalker of crazy iksar dude, so maybe she is thinking she can save him and put his soul into another body, however there are still kinks in the system that have to be worked out
3) So she creates the Neo Regulators and will effectively run a 5000 person human trial to test the viability of the technology in the hopes she can revive her Iksar bae
4) Shale figures out the plan after she decodes the data logs in 7.2 or 7.3 (she did confirm in the story that she had not yet had a chance to decode anything outside the audio logs)

Yeah part of me could be okay with another Ascian finally showing themselves having been waiting in the wings, but agree it just feels too obvious to pull that out yet again at this time.
 

Folanlron

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The trailer makes it look like ARR, but there is no way it is an actual direct port of that.


It is sort of a port of ARR and that is it, it will be free though, although in China first(for obvious reasons)


Futures Rewritten, I thought I would never ever see an easier version of Light Rampant.. but they did it. But it is made up for with the new Relativity and Apoc holy shit.
 

Chysamere

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FFXIV mobile gameplay from the beta test. It does look like they just put ARR on phones.



I'm just glad they have their own server away from the rest of us. Controller players are bad enough, last thing we want is phone players in our group!
 
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Mao

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How you all feeling about the latest MSQ update? I haven't been able to get through it atm, it feels like dragging my ballsack over broken glass every time I start reading the cutscenes and I am surprised how much I've come to resent listening to Wuk Lamat. Tell me it gets better, or will I miss anything actually important by just skipping it all and going to the 24man?

The story telling really feels puerile? The Alexandrians are really just children and we're getting some parable for 8 years olds to understand the world.

I know they won't do this, cause it will ruin the writers self insert, but they really should have Wuk Lamat obsess over saving everyone and saving Sphene and have her constantly working with/exploring the crown that Sphene left behind to the point it warps her mind and she goes on to become a hellish version of Sphene that is trying to save everyone through totalitarian control.

Yeah, its trite and its been done a million times before, but it would move the story in a more meaningful direction and actually give Wuk Lamat a character arc. We can eventually save her and she can be wiser and more humble and go on to become a better ruler instead of the current "I'm so incompetent best at everything lol" we've got.

I fucking hate this character.

Something I've noticed lately is all the writing now days seems to be the writing going 'I want to tell /my/ story' when it comes to games. The writing is fucking horrid. Game stories are different than movies or books, especially if its a first person pov character. You need to tell that character's, the player's story, to have an illusion of agency and involvement. Like a good DM that fosters the illusion that the players choices matter and affect the story. Do they? Not really, the DM is god. They can do whatever they want, but its a happy illusion that needs to exist.

Game writers now all seem to be fresh from some college writing course, all out to write their magnum opus for the players, /to/ the players. They don't want to lead the players through an amazing experience, to take them on an adventure. Instead they want to force players to watch and witness the amazing saga they've created. To preach to them their story, instead of letting the players feel they have an hand in its creation. This might work well for narrative story games where you watch a character with a degree of separation from the player, but it fails when you want the player to /be/ the character.

Anyway, some ramblings.

Does this shit get better, or would I be better off just forgetting it exists and getting on to doing content?
 
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Folanlron

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Crossroads ends on a sort of high point...

but the fights have all been amazing Chaotic Cloud of Darkness is fun, and only really has 1 mechanic that puts it into the Savage Tier.

I'm curious how the 12-man runs will be, sense the fight doesn't adjust "down" for joining under 24 people, cause it has some interesting 6-man mechanics.
 

Chysamere

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Crossroads ends on a sort of high point...

but the fights have all been amazing Chaotic Cloud of Darkness is fun, and only really has 1 mechanic that puts it into the Savage Tier.

I'm curious how the 12-man runs will be, sense the fight doesn't adjust "down" for joining under 24 people, cause it has some interesting 6-man mechanics.

Partyfinder is melting down over it. It's so much worse when you have to find 24 competent players than 8.
 

Merrith

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Only thing I care about with MSQ right now is The Key, and what will eventually be learned through it/done with it. Honestly rest of 7.X is pretty obviously just a vehicle to get us to it and understand whatever part it is going to play in moving further bigger picture arcs forward.

Although end of 7.1 was interesting.
 

Magimaster

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I've been enjoying the MSQ myself; we're getting some answers for some of the plot points with the Tural characters, we still have to figure out Neu-Sphene , and we still have mysteries around both raid plotlines right now as well. But I also do not get the hateboner some people have for Wak Lamut and Dawntrail; I've heard it was like this back when Stormblood launched with Lyse, but I didn't start playing till late Stormblood so I apparently missed most of the drama.

Long term, I think the biggest 2 plot points to start will be the Key and also the Mask mural from the Milalla area. The Key indicates someone was mucking around with Interdimensional travel long before we though anyone was, which could lead in any number of directions. The Mask mural from the Milalla area seems to paint a picture that someone, either the Paragons/Ascians or someone else from that time period was around way back in the past after the Sundering but helping people??? We really have no way of knowing at this point since Eorzia kept getting blasted with the Calamities so any structures/relics and such from that far back are long gone, at least on the main continent. But maybe between the New World and Mercadia, we may be able to find some scattered info to point us in a direction. We also do not know what the conditions are on the remaining shards, and with neither Hydelyn or Zodiark around, if things get fucky, we don't have any easy way to fix it.
 

Folanlron

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All rumors are pointing to Azem was the one who made the key(Save the GRAPES, rofl I hope so), but the actual gate system by the Lalafells, but they never fully understood how to work the key. But the key responds to Azem's Crystal ... and we have a very small part of his power.

We do know that Azem stepped away from the Convocation after they started talking about summoning Zodiark to protect Etheirys from the Endsinger, he wanted to "find a different way" is how they put it in the story. I believe he did find another way, and we are now walking on the ruins of what he did find.
 
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Cybsled

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Folanlron's comment matches what I suspect to be the case.

The game has made it clear in multiple situations that Azem (our Azem) seemed to have foreknowledge of what was going to happen

1) The Volcano story clearly has a connection to the volcano the lalafels lived at on the source
2) Azem knew we were coming back in time and told Elidibus about us
3) Azem rejected siding with Venat's plan to summon Hydalean and never gave a reason why
4) Azem went MIA during all the Final Days shit. It pissed the Convocation off so much that they basically excommunicated them, although Emet still believed in them

While it remains to be seen HOW Azem knew all this, it's clear they did know what was going on. Could be some predestination paradox shit (WoL from future meets past Azem and gives them the details, or WoL becomes Azem in the past somehow). One theory is that in the upcoming expansions, we will meet the other Azem shards and eventually we will have to team up or merge to basically fight the next big bad (people think it might be Ultima - the real Ultima).

I could see that maybe happening - WoL merges with all Azem shards and becomes restored Azem, this Azem then travels back to the past and lives out past Azem's life and makes sure history will play out a certain way. Although that would be the end of the game or your character at least unless they then pulled some "time to split your ass up" thing
 

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Man after playing poe2 im extra salty at the multiculti imagine song society of the ff14 version of the aztecs vs the baller vaal