Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)

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From Yoshi-P's comments it seems they have the next 10 years sort of planned out,
they stated that eventually we will be traveling to all shard's and parts of Etheirys that Emet listed off at the end of EW. So my guess is the story between now will be about, SPPPHHHHEEEEENNNEEEEE and using the Key to actually dial other shard's instead of only having access to 1 "shard". And Y'shtola will get to be with Runar again, and Thancred gets to be DadCred ... but with 2 daughters *laugh*. Beyond that ehhh Meracydia or anything that is not related to 13th, they already said we won't be going back for awhile.
 
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Man after playing poe2 im extra salty at the multiculti imagine song society of the ff14 version of the aztecs vs the baller vaal
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I only considered Diablo 4's watered down Aztecs... but yeah... missed opportunity in FF14 as well.

PoE 2 also did a futuristic time travel Aztec vibe which is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect from Final Fantasy and not PoE's zombie archeology.
 
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Made a delicious Christmas meal, cleared the Chaotic and got my final Group Fishing achievement so I can finally mute that damn discord server.

Today was a good day.
 
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Finished Endwalker main story. I have opted to not continue.

Very strong story by the end, but felt I could have told that as well yet way more concisely in a 80 hour single player game. Seemed dialogue got very reiterative at times. Combat was top tier to me for the most part and I thought they nailed job fantasy for me.

I ended up leveling most jobs to around 60. A few to about 80. Just one to 90. Got my money’s worth.
 
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Damn I look good.

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Caeden said:
Finished Endwalker main story. I have opted to not continue.

Very strong story by the end, but felt I could have told that as well yet way more concisely in a 80 hour single player game. Seemed dialogue got very reiterative at times. Combat was top tier to me for the most part and I thought they nailed job fantasy for me.

I ended up leveling most jobs to around 60. A few to about 80. Just one to 90. Got my money’s worth.
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the Post MSQ story stuff is pretty good too. it touches upon some interesting reflection-related-business. the endwalker raid series, and the MSQ after is pretty good. but when the retarded cat appears, the story crashes into the mud then just pisses on it's own face for the rest of post MSQ up to most of dawntrail.
 
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the Post MSQ story stuff is pretty good too. it touches upon some interesting reflection-related-business. the endwalker raid series, and the MSQ after is pretty good. but when the retarded cat appears, the story crashes into the mud then just pisses on it's own face for the rest of post MSQ up to most of dawntrail.
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I still have some time left. May check it out.

I still have a lot of the same complaints about the game I’ve always had. The dialogue needs more brevity to it. By the end though, I’d gotten really attached to the Scions. I thought most of Endwalker was better than Shadowbringers and Heavensward.

I feel like there’s just too little combat in the MSQ. I’d still put it about number 3 on my theme park mmo list after WoW, then SWToR vanilla, then a very close 3 of FFXIV.
 
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I still have some time left. May check it out.

I still have a lot of the same complaints about the game I’ve always had. The dialogue needs more brevity to it. By the end though, I’d gotten really attached to the Scions. I thought most of Endwalker was better than Shadowbringers and Heavensward.

I feel like there’s just too little combat in the MSQ. I’d still put it about number 3 on my theme park mmo list after WoW, then SWToR vanilla, then a very close 3 of FFXIV.
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The game would be improved by making more kill quests. With thancred or whoever followikg you and slowly info dumping you. Instead of standing outside a doorframe or inn
 
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It does feel like the MSQ has had less fighting over time, just the formulaic duty, dungeon, or trial at all the usual times.
 
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Agree with both of you above. There was a time I thought this might be "my game" for many years. Turns out by most of the way through Shadowbringers, I recognized the pattern and problems. I actually think WoW does that well at times (at least up until Legion) of telling story via narration during quests. Few and far between but I've seen it done.

Oddly, I did take some time to play SWTOR some again in F2P mode to compare a fresh play and even with its dialogue heavy cutscenes it still felt more "engaging". It was more efficient.
 
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Also, the zones are absolutely gorgeous and you just do not spend enough time out in it fighting unless you want to engage in alts, sidequests that are inefficient usually....even the vaunted raid quests or whatever they're called like Alexander, etc (up through Stormblood, I actually took time out to do a lot of these in the xpac i was in) felt like i was running to have a few convos in cutscenes then jumping into the duty finder.
 
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Took these screengrabs from the recent Zepla video of what JP players thought of Dawntrail. Had me rolling

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40% disapproval on Steam. Isn't this bad?

^ Last line that got cut off.
 
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That just goes to show the problems aren’t because of the VA, it’s because of the writing

One streamer I watch brought up a good point: The entire Dawntrail story arc is basically the prior WoL story arc abridged (ARR through EW), except it is Wuk in place of the WoL. I think that type of story idea could work with WoL as a mentor, but it was handled and written poorly. The WoL barely comes off as a mentor and it is the furry Lyse show for the next 30 hours
 
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Would you rather watch a Wuk Lamat cutscene or a FF13 Snow/Hope cutscene?

Would you rather spend a day in the pre adventure life of FF12 Penelo or Wuk Lamat?

They fucked up.
 
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Cybsled said:
That just goes to show the problems aren’t because of the VA, it’s because of the writing

One streamer I watch brought up a good point: The entire Dawntrail story arc is basically the prior WoL story arc abridged (ARR through EW), except it is Wuk in place of the WoL. I think that type of story idea could work with WoL as a mentor, but it was handled and written poorly. The WoL barely comes off as a mentor and it is the furry Lyse show for the next 30 hours
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No, no, they're both awful.
 
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Maybe it's because I know exactly how they treated Lyse after Stormblood that I just mostly was indifferent to Wuk Lamat's whole arc.
 
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Maybe it's because I know exactly how they treated Lyse after Stormblood that I just mostly was indifferent to Wuk Lamat's whole arc.
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I wasn't indifferent, I wanted to kill her at the earliest opportunity. Unfortunately this isn't a real RPG.
 
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I wasn't indifferent, I wanted to kill her at the earliest opportunity. Unfortunately this isn't a real RPG.
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Yeah I just was more interested in what I knew/assumed was coming, never got so focused on the one NPC.
 
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No, no, they're both awful.
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Japan literally has a different VA lol

As for English VA Wuk Lamat, they actually re-recorded some of the lines. Specifically, the final boss fight (aka the 'Spheeene leeeesteeen to meeeee')
 
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Japan literally has a different VA lol

As for English VA Wuk Lamat, they actually re-recorded some of the lines. Specifically, the final boss fight (aka the 'Spheeene leeeesteeen to meeeee')
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Isn't that obvious that they'd have different VA? They're different languages. The English one is beyond trash, no idea about the other languages. But that would explain why the Japanese only think the writing is the problem.
 
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