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So, the Game of Thrones adaptions started very faithful but there is an exponential trend as the seasons pass for variance. This trend doesn't bode well for the future of the show (if you care about faithfulness which admittedly, not everyone will.)
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Depends on what you mean by faithfulness.
Most people really enjoyed seasons 3 and 4, with the last 3 episodes of s4 being VERY popular and the show is now the biggest hit HBO has ever had. This is true even amongst most book fans. I believe they are keeping the story at least as true to the nature of the books as possible, while changing details.
Also we have to keep in mind that book 4 was particularly weak and large sections of book 5 were pretty bland, so I don't want them to remain faithful to that. They have to change things. Having Bran spend another season wandering in the woods would have been horrible. Having Tyrion spend a season watching turtles just isn't going to happen. Etc.
Most people really enjoyed seasons 3 and 4, with the last 3 episodes of s4 being VERY popular and the show is now the biggest hit HBO has ever had. This is true even amongst most book fans. I believe they are keeping the story at least as true to the nature of the books as possible, while changing details.
Also we have to keep in mind that book 4 was particularly weak and large sections of book 5 were pretty bland, so I don't want them to remain faithful to that. They have to change things. Having Bran spend another season wandering in the woods would have been horrible. Having Tyrion spend a season watching turtles just isn't going to happen. Etc.
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This was always going to be the case though. They aren't going to be able to expound on every detail in 1k page books in 10 episodes (even 20 when they break a book up into multiple seasons, which they really did cover more than just ASoS the last 2 seasons). It's just inevitable. The show also isn't shown from a single character per chapter point of view either, so we're going to see some things much differently, and get some new reveals along the way since Martin effectively can use the show to turn aspects of the story towards whatever endgame he has planned much earlier than we might have seen in the books.
Good for you? My posts weren't in response to yours???? So congrats, I guess on reading GoT before I heard of it in time to catch up for the second book. You are the man.
My reply though, was to gmstbflaskdhadfs's statement that "OBJECTIVELY" GoT is a "MUCH MORE ACCURATE" adaptation of the books than Jackson's movies were of LotR trillogy...which is a goddamn fucking crazy statement to make given the amount of changes they've made.
Oh, their budget after four seasons has not been, "dwarfed" by the original LotR budget. Its estimated the first season cost between 50-60 million to produce, and even if you assume their success hasn't led to increased budgets for seasons 2 through 4, you are talking about a budget of between 200-240 million to adapt, roughly, the first three books . By comparison, the original LotR budget (adapting 3 books) is estimated at 280 million. Not a huge difference...certainly not "dwarfed" difference.
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I love the show, and while I griped about the finale, it was still an excellent TV show. My recent responses have been to this comparison that LotR movies are somehow a joke compared to GoT. The amount of effort they put into getting that into cinemas was nothing short of astounding.
Ahhhh, the often quoted "budget per hour" statistic.
...and they weren't two hour movies, but hey who's the stupid one?
For season 4, they had $60 million. I do not know how much of an increase that was from previous seasons.
The LoTR series had a total budget of $281 million. The Hobbit has a budget of $561 million.
Oh shit, nerds arguing the accuracy LoTR vs ASoIAF, this oughta be good. Almost as good as Star Wars vs Star Trek.
GOT's budget has remained around $60 million per season. That's $240 million to produce about 35 hours of content compared to around $280 million (in early 2000s dollars) for 11 hours of extended runtime for LOTR. Any way you slice it, LOTR was significantly more expensive to produce. And that's ignoring the Hobbit, which is $190 million PER MOVIE.
As for the changes, I don't see how any sane person that has actually read both book series could conclude that GOT is a less accurate adaptation. The LOTR movies madesweepingthematic changes to main plot points and characterizations, omitted large and significant portions of the story, manufactured love stories for main characters, and completely changed the way critical events occur and are resolved.
Maybe if GOT would have made Rhllor a giant fiery eye you would like it more?
As for the changes, I don't see how any sane person that has actually read both book series could conclude that GOT is a less accurate adaptation. The LOTR movies madesweepingthematic changes to main plot points and characterizations, omitted large and significant portions of the story, manufactured love stories for main characters, and completely changed the way critical events occur and are resolved.
Maybe if GOT would have made Rhllor a giant fiery eye you would like it more?
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GoT has more boobs, better dwarves an no faggot elves to inspire names for millions of huntards. There is no comparison.
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It showed up full screen on mine but attachments can be weird, here is an imgur link:http://i.imgur.com/lceExOP.jpg
GOT's biggest problem in remaining faithful to the books is they are running out of content. Even with the extra stuff added in to Bran's story, he still only has 1 chapter left unfilmed. Sansa/Littlefinger are pretty much at the end of their story as well since they've already talked the Vale Lords into letting them stay on for the time being. Theon doesn't have a whole lot left to do except go to Winterfell and run away from Ramsay. Jaime has to go to run off with Brienne, but that's pretty much it.
Granted there are new characters coming in, but they still need to find stuff for the existing characters to do. You can't just give them a couple of scenes for the whole season and call it good.
Granted there are new characters coming in, but they still need to find stuff for the existing characters to do. You can't just give them a couple of scenes for the whole season and call it good.