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Merrith · Apr 5, 2015

Siddar_sl said:
Then why is no one agreeing with your position?

khalid_sl said:
Btw, I completely agree with Hodj's position on this, though not your attempt to strawnoomba it.

Also completely agree with hodj position on the study of homosexuality being linked to genetics.

BoldW · Apr 5, 2015

All sexuality is genetically predisposed.

That means all heterosexuality, and all homosexuality, and all the spectrum in between, is a result of genes acting with the environment, which includes the culture that social creatures create for themselves.

/handraise

hodj · Apr 5, 2015

I'm just going to sit here and let everyone laugh at you for awhile Siddar.

Its really all the response I need at this point.

Siddar · Apr 5, 2015

Royal_sl said:
He's not saying it's the only factor, but it is the gatekeeper of factors.

No he is saying it is the only factor.

hodj · Apr 5, 2015

No, I'm not.

And you're literally the only person who thinks I am because, as stated earlier, you're just not that great a thinker.

chaos · Apr 5, 2015

Siddar_sl said:
I think you have a mix of genetics, sub conscious, conscious, along past life experience that lead different people to different sexual identity choices. In some cases those choices were voluntary choices in other cases they were non voluntary choices driven by both genetics and in some cases on a sub conscious level.

Yes a straight person can choose to be gay just as a genetically gay person could choose to be straight.

Note the above does not imply that I think all gay people should just try and force themselves to be straight because honestly once you have a sexual identity that suits you you should just keep it.

That is psycho, bro. I cannot choose to be gay. You can choose to suck a cock, but there is a bit more to being gay than sucking cock. I can't choose to not be attracted to Katy Perry's titties, no matter how vapid I find her to be. No matter how awful a person Kim Kardashian is, I can't choose to not want to smash her ass like the second coming. That shit is chemistry. You are claiming to be able to consciously affect the internal chemistry of your brain. That is bonkers.

Sebudai · Apr 5, 2015

Siddar_sl said:
Do you agree with Hodj that genetics is the only cause of homosexuality?

I agree with what Hodj actually said.

DiddleySquat · Apr 5, 2015

hodj_sl said:
That means all heterosexuality, and all homosexuality, and all the spectrum in between, is a result of genes acting with the environment, which includes the culture that social creatures create for themselves.

Genes + Environment = 2 factors.

Kedwyn · Apr 5, 2015

People opposed to gays want to desperately believe it's choice. Makes it easier to demonize and call a sin or abomination. If it's genetics then it's natural which makes it much harder to cast those stones.

Siddar · Apr 5, 2015

Siddar_sl said:
Sexual Identity is determined by many different things both genetic and social, plus a long list others potential factors as well. You can be gay because genes are you can be gay because you wanted to be based upon life experiences.

One person maybe Gay because of genes and another person may be Gay because that's just what they wanted to be. Trying to say everyone that is X gay is because of Y genetics is just trying to make world conform to your political views on sexual identity.

hodj_sl said:
That's a nice opinion.

Let us know when you get any peer reviewed literature backing it up with substance beyond your basal assertion that your opinion is so because you say so.

hodj_sl said:
No, I'm not.

And you're literally the only person who thinks I am because, as stated earlier, you're just not that great a thinker.

Lets go back to the start troll.

Kuriin · Apr 5, 2015

Royal, who is that delicious guy in your avatar?

Chaos, you're gay? Call me. 800-RIM-JOBS

Amusing watching Siddar and Furry continue digging themselves in a deeper hole, haha.

Siddar · Apr 5, 2015

Kedwyn_sl said:
People opposed to gays want to desperately believe it's choice. Makes it easier to demonize and call a sin or abomination. If it's genetics then it's natural which makes it much harder to cast those stones.

What if it's both and botside trying to abuse the issue for other reasons are wrong>

Therage · Apr 5, 2015

Wow. I just. I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Farnsworth.jpg

What in the fuck is wrong with people? How is this level of stupidity even possible?

iannis · Apr 5, 2015

khalid_sl said:
If homosexuality is a choice, then at some point in time you decided to be straight. That means, right now, you could decide to find men sexually attractive. Do you really think you could do this?

Merrith_sl said:

Maaaaaaaybe.

One of those questions that I don't want to know the answer to.

iannis · Apr 5, 2015

KISS THE PEOPLE'S PREPUCE

radditsu · Apr 5, 2015

i vote sexuality is linked 100% to genetics.

Sa da tay.

Siddar · Apr 5, 2015

radditsu_sl said:
i vote sexuality is linked 100% to genetics.

Sa da tay.

To late Hodj already crawled away for that position.

radditsu · Apr 5, 2015

Siddar_sl said:
To late Hodj already crawled away for that position.

Nahh i think you are an idiot cunt so I will keep my position.

opiate82 · Apr 5, 2015

I believe that genetics are a key role in sexuality. I don't believe genetics suddenly make men start talking with a lisp.

*edit: To elaborate, I think there is a cultural and/or psychological element to sexuality for sure, but it seems pretty clear the basic attraction to one sex or another is a born-with trait. I can't picture myself suddenly being sexualy attract to men but I see no reason why I can see myself suddenly getting into a fetish that I might not have had before.

hodj · Apr 5, 2015

I guess when you've run out of arguments to the point Siddar has, all you have left is to stake your territory on shitty strawmen and hope it sticks.

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