JRPGs

Hateyou said:

It’s great, I thought about making a dedicated thread but not sure how active it would be due to not being on PC. It’s like someone took Ogre Battle and added a bunch of modern mechanics.

It’s a lot deeper than it appears at first. Once you start getting into the gambit system and better gear it opens up all kinds of synergies and unit builds. It also removed the “use one unit and get penalized” that Ogre Battle had which is nice. You can make one or two really strong units and just focus on getting them into choke points and support them with ranged/healing support units. There’s also some rock paper scissor mechanics so you can’t rely on one or two units 100% of the time.

It’s the modern Ogre Battle successor I had always hoped for but no one could ever quite do.

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I really wanted to give UO a whirl and had it on my agenda, but it looks too time-consuming. Still glad there's a modern Ogre Battle. Will probably check it out eventually when time permits. "Smash or pass" probably depends on how much free time you've got.

Hateyou said:

I’d rather spend more time in something really well done than spread it out amongst a bunch of mediocre stuff.

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Agreed. At this point I really want to do some Souls strength builds now that I've seen Berserk. Kinda given up on keeping up with new games.

Eiyuden is something I've wanted for years but we'll see when I even get around to that, might just have to live vicariously through other people's posts.

Got gifted a copy of Eiyuden Chronicles while having COVID so I checked it out (also got Rising, the prequel episode game, since it's like $15 now, probably gonna play that after the main game)

After 2 hours, STRONG recommendation for the main game if you're a retro JRPG fan. 100% must-get for a Suikoden fan. It looks pretty great on PS5, like we remember Suikoden 1 and 2 looking, but maybe they didn't in actuality. The visuals are kind of 2D-HD and everything pops. And make no mistake, this game is basically Suikoden 3 if it had continued in the visual style of the first two. The story is basically the Harmonia Empire game that the Suikoden series teased a few times (mainly in Suikoden 3) but never actually did. AKA a powerful and morally-ambiguous empire is collecting True Runes with uncertain intentions. I always wanted a Harmonia game since the Suikoden series kept teasing them as the big kind of final force to contend with and it just went nowhere, like Arek the Overseer in the Lufia series. Never gonna understand building up a Bigger Bad over multiple games and then just dropping it in later sequels.

In any case, Eiyuden Chronicles, really freaking good Suikoden game made by a lot of the same people. If anyone else gets it lemme know.

Vorph said:

...and then ruined by retarded westerners.

https://nitter.poast.org/zakogdo/status/1782340520670527759

Though personally I didn't find the game that great to begin with so I'm not too bothered about dumping it. Doubly so with it being another Game Pass release that I didn't actually pay for. The turn-based combat just feels so basic and bare-bones when you're used to a couple decades worth of Atlus games. I just auto-battled my way through the trash fights and only the bosses required any thought at all, which was tempered by them almost always going first each turn which meant a lot of it came down to luck (i.e. same person targeted twice in a row = guess I'll waste another revival).

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Wow, that is some incredibly nitpicky bullshit.

The game's dialogue is fine, pretty funny most of the time actually. There was no "did you assume its gender", what happened was they fought a big super-powerful golem and the hero kept calling it "he" and the main girl was like "how do you know it wasn't a she??" which was pretty funny (because it was clearly an It) and was the kind of thing her character would say since she's a spunky JRPG chick.

Anyway, give it a try, it's a solid game.

Vorph said:

There's no dead zone on the sticks at all. PC has the same problem, it's so bad I had to move around using the dpad.

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Also getting that on the PS5 version, a bit annoying. Glad my controller isn't starting to die like I thought it was, at least.

spronk said:

i'm not super loving eiyuden chronicles, its not terrible but I dunno after 2 hours it just feels very basic and none of the characters are really interesting so far. i'll try for another 3-4 hours i guess but its gotta pick up. thank god for gamepass, i'd be kinda pissed if i bought it.

visually it is really good and the music is pretty decent, i just need more to do. its kinda weird how Rise felt more fun, like fishing in that game was more interesting and I enjoyed that style of combat way more than the turn based of eiyuden. I also haven't really gotten any side quests yet so that might be part of it, I enjoyed doing all the random ass side quests in Rise. It is weird how the two games feel almost nothing like each other.

also on xbox the controller is funky as hell, sometimes my character will just go off in directions on their own like there is stick drift or something but i haven't had that issue with any other game ever.

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Is Rising worth playing? Sounds like it is. I spent $15 on it when I got the main game and immediately regretted it when it turned out to be a completely different type of game from the main game. Some sort of sidescrolling beat 'em up. However if it's good and worth playing, then that's a bit of a relief. Wish I'd gotten it a lot sooner though because at this juncture it'd just be kinda a distraction from the main game.