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I don't know what Riot intends to do, but I imagine doing a reset would be impossible due to the league system. By dropping people down you will move players to a level way below their current Tier/Division and I imagine this could cause some nasty issues like players getting demoted from their Tiers. (S4 will allow demotion from Tiers as well as Divisions).

The formula for the soft reset last year is known, it is: (Current MMR+1200)/2
This was to get players closer to the 1200 baseline without completely screwing up rankings.
If you were below 1200 Elo you gained MMR and if you were above 1200 you lost MMR.
I think I was like 1100 MMR at the time so I actually gained about 50 MMR from the reset.

I believe last year there weren't placements (I could be wrong?). What happened was pre-season didn't use the League system. Once they converted to the League system you were simply placed in whatever division based upon your current MMR.

Not doing a reset might actually cause some issues at Diamond/Challenger. MMR is supposed to determine who gets "let in" to Challenger and if the top players start getting 5k+ MMR that could start to be a problem. Before the League system the highest ever MMR was like 3k by 1 or 2 people. Forellenlord supposedly hit 3030 Elo in S2 but I'm not sure if that was the highest ever.

I was hoping they would do a reset and placements again but I guess it will be impossible and S4 might just be a continuation of where we left off in S3. Chances are you won't need to worry about playing against players better than you or getting stuck with Bronze V teammates if this is the case.

I'm happy about it, too, I do like the feeling of starting over. It doesn't sound like there will be placement matches at all unless you are 1st time ranked player. It's basically same as last year where you'll get placed based on MMR. The majority of players were placed in Silver I last year. I believe it was discovered that you needed around 1550 MMR to be placed in Gold.

Edit: Actually I guess there will be placements. (regarding preseason ranked games):

They'll matter in that they influence your initial placement during the 2014 season but you'll notice that your fluctuation right now is not so crazy unless you lose 50 games in a row. It's beneficial that ranked should matter in the sense that everyone's playing the same game, but placement matches are huge. So is a soft reset, as clamping will be lessened (OR EVEN REMOVED!?) until D1.

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Once again, you don't play placements for the preseason. When the 2014 season rolls around you will, but you won't have a pre-set tier you're sitting in because there will be a soft reset so where you place after that will be where your whole new beginnings take place!

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Draegan_sl said:

The start is kind of confusing, let me see if I'm getting this right. They are starting off the pre-season with your previous MMR. This will then give you a chance to gain MMR so when they do a soft reset for S4, you have a chance for a better placement series?

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Pre-Season MMR will just be a continuation of S3.

If I am ~1300 MMR right now and did not play anymore games until S4 than the soft reset will drop me down to 1250 . This will be my baseline going into placements.
Placements are your first 10 games of the Season and basically give you inflated amounts of MMR, like up to ~40 points per win/loss, which quickly deteriorates as you play more games. Even though you will be placed after 10 games, the inflated MMR gains/losses will continue for up to 20-30 games (from what was witnessed prior to the MMR going hidden).

If I can win all 10 placements I might assume my MMR jumps an additional ~300 points, I'll be at 1550 MMR and would likely be placed in Silver 1 or Gold V.

If I DO play preseason games and can gain ~250 MMR during it, my MMR after the reset would be 1375. If I win all my placements my new MMR could be around 1675 and I'd possibly be placed in Gold 2 or 3.

Basically playing in the preseason could only mean an additional 100-200 MMR swing on your rating, which is intended, because Riot doesn't want the preseason to have a massive affect on where you place, but in my situation im teetering in low-gold/high silver and if I want to secure a Gold Tier then I might consider playing a bit in the preseason so that I can get over the hump and into Gold a tiny bit easier. Someone firmly in a Tier might not worry as much... Basically if you are in the upper Divisions of a Tier you probably don't need to be concerned with dropping to a lower Tier after placements, even if you don't win all 10.

If you want an idea on your MMR go here:MMR :: ???~??O?*^?*"?"o ( LOL : ? ) ?*"?*? ???f? (LOL Stats)The site checks your recent ranked matches and the ratings of the groups you were in and figures out what your MMR might be around. (mine is around 1435 which is only 20 points higher than Wizardhawk's )

Frenzied Wombat_sl said:

Used to love Voli, but once they nerfed his Q his susceptibility to kiting went from acceptable to rage inducing. He's still amazing if you can get in range, but any semi-competent ADC will make your life a living hell.

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Hmm, just looked at the patchlog cause wasn't sure what you were talking about. I guess his Q makes ganks slightly harder early on but late game it's actually faster than before. Voli is just one of those fotm champs that sometimes gets super popular than dies out randomly, I don't think he's ever been hit that hard other than itemization. I think the Warmog change made him picked less often actually.

Sidian_sl said:

That website is pretty flawed unless you have your last 10 games played are all ranked.

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Well its not perfect but actually it ignores non-ranked games. If you don't have sufficient amount of ranked games then it gives you an error. It definitely will be more accurate if you have 10 ranked games recently played as there is more data to work with. It's possible some of your friend's ranked games that dropped off happened to have him in some really high rated groups, possibly because he is a 2k player or because of duoing. It's also possible the ones currently on his list are lower ranked, maybe he was 1st pick at 2k rating but his group was mostly platinums at ~1800ish. Hard to say without more data but I'm pretty confident it doesn't look at anything except yoloQ

Arbitrary_sl said:

I don't believe their numbers because I do not believe that the tiers this season as the same as they are last season.

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It doesn't look at the Tiers when figuring out the numbers. It looks at your group's Rating. Although individual player MMR's are now hidden, every rated group is assigned a Rating which is assumed to be the average MMR of all 5 players on the team.

To see your group's rating you can load uphttp://www.lolnexus.com/NA/orLeague of Legends Team Stats and Analytics, Scoreboards League of Legends Quickfindafter you start a game. The rating should be displayed somewhere above your team.