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Depending on the cost to fix that, would be worth investing in one of the various types of heavy duty quick dam type set up? It would have probably still added risk (in at least that particular case), since the edge of the pool dig out is so close to the fence and your adding weight on top, but it would have prevented runoff from cutting into and eroding it. As a bonus, if they make a durable water bladder dam, you could then dump all the water into the pool when it's done.

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You could probably mitigate it a bit with a cheaper option using wattles. It wouldn't have the added benefit of the water in going into the finished pool, but much cheaper overall. Although you'd still need some kind of backing if you wanted to keep ALL of the water out. These solutions only cover surface water, so if there's anything flowing under the ground it'd be a futile effort.
 

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Depending on the cost to fix that, would be worth investing in one of the various types of heavy duty quick dam type set up? It would have probably still added risk (in at least that particular case), since the edge of the pool dig out is so close to the fence and your adding weight on top, but it would have prevented runoff from cutting into and eroding it. As a bonus, if they make a durable water bladder dam, you could then dump all the water into the pool when it's done.

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Nah, like I said, the house behind it is 2' higher in elevation, nothing was stopping it. That includes all the rainwater coming off the gutters. We build 300 pools a year and might have half a dozen catastrophic cave ins out of those. If we started deploying something like that on every build we'd have to increase costs across the board which then cuts into how many pools we sell. Sometimes you just have to eat it and keep going. That's the job.
 
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All rock, he had way too big of one in his bucket and tipped over. Just glad we didn't hit the house. Mexico is Central America sirs!
 

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better question is was the lifting arm fucked up or not.
We'll see in the morning. Needs to sit overnight before trying to start it, was already throwing oil out of the exhaust when it got flipped and I made it very fucking clear if they throw oil all over that house when they start it back up it's gonna be hell to pay. It's probably ok but if not it's not my problem, they're subs.
 

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I live up by DFW airport, that has no bearing on my questions.

Anyway, I have a salt water pool and the pentair IC40 cell is going and needs to be replaced. Do you suggest sticking with salt or just going to chlorine?

Also, I have the typical texas pool with flagstone around the pool and hottub. Could I remove this stone and have the pool resurfaced with pebble tec and wrap it up over the edges to replace the stone anD have one solid curb almost?

Thanks in advance
 

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The mini-ex rodeo came to town. Yeee-Haw.
 
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I live up by DFW airport, that has no bearing on my questions.

Anyway, I have a salt water pool and the pentair IC40 cell is going and needs to be replaced. Do you suggest sticking with salt or just going to chlorine?

Also, I have the typical texas pool with flagstone around the pool and hottub. Could I remove this stone and have the pool resurfaced with pebble tec and wrap it up over the edges to replace the stone anD have one solid curb almost?

Thanks in advance
How long did your original salt cell last? If you take care of them you should get a solid 3 or 4 years per salt cell. Personally I prefer just good old tabs and shock. But with the price of chems these days it's pretty much a wash as far as how much you are going to spend salt vs chlorine so it just boils down to personal preference.

If you replaster it has to stay under water. I honestly don't know about bringing it up to where your coping is, never heard of or seen anything like that. Plaster is only 1/2" thick so if you removed your 3" coping you would have to float it up with cement/gunite/mortar before putting plaster on it. Would probably crack all over the place. Is your flagstone looking rough or what? Standard remodel on older pools is usually new plaster, new coping, and new veneer if you have any raised beams or a raised spa.

If you want to resurface your pool shoot me a PM and I'll point you in the right direction.
 

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I live up by DFW airport, that has no bearing on my questions.

Anyway, I have a salt water pool and the pentair IC40 cell is going and needs to be replaced. Do you suggest sticking with salt or just going to chlorine?

Also, I have the typical texas pool with flagstone around the pool and hottub. Could I remove this stone and have the pool resurfaced with pebble tec and wrap it up over the edges to replace the stone anD have one solid curb almost?

Thanks in advance
If the cell worked well and you rarely have algae problems stick with that. Tabs are pretty low maintenance but you’ll always be fighting the CYA climb.
 

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Why do pools cost so much? I’m hearing in my area of Florida it’s something like 80k just to dig a hole and can run up to 150k depending on features. Is size the largest determining factor of price and maybe features second?

How do you find a good pool contractor.. Quick google fu and all the ones in my area either have mediocre/bad reviews or good reviews but not a large quantity (4.9 stars 60-100 reviews).
 

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Why do pools cost so much? I’m hearing in my area of Florida it’s something like 80k just to dig a hole and can run up to 150k depending on features. Is size the largest determining factor of price and maybe features second?

How do you find a good pool contractor.. Quick google fu and all the ones in my area either have mediocre/bad reviews or good reviews but not a large quantity (4.9 stars 60-100 reviews).
Because demand skyrocketed, supplies were squeezed/covid, and inflation. All at the same time. I read demand is slowing, depending on your area I guess, so maybe the prices will start coming down a little.

Also, if someone has built 100 pools and have a 4.9, they know what they’re doing. Thats years worth of experience.
 
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Demand skyrocketed during Covid with everyone cancelling their summer vacations. We built 350+ pools/year 2020-2022. Once interest rates started spiking demand dropped a lot. Established companies are still building but the smaller guys that didnt really know what they were doing and just jumping on the Covid bandwagon are getting flushed out. Prices spiked in 2021 with all the supply chain shortages and have not come back down since. In north Texas a simple pool with no water features, no heater, no spa is still going to cost you $50k.

I can't speak to Florida but I can guess that digging a pool in loose sand substrate is going to add some complications that will translate into higher costs.
As to finding a reputable builder....start here.
 

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Nice start. A full time weekly maintenance guy should be doing around 50 a week depending on how spread out they are. I was a pool boy for 13 years before I started building them, if you have any questions feel free. Get the Orenda app on your phone, it will really help you dial in the chems if you don't have a ton of experience.
 
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Nice start. A full time weekly maintenance guy should be doing around 50 a week depending on how spread out they are. I was a pool boy for 13 years before I started building them, if you have any questions feel free. Get the Orenda app on your phone, it will really help you dial in the chems if you don't have a ton of experience.
Yeah 50 is what I've been told. Thankfully I have 3 years of pool cleaning experience + years of Waterpark operations. All I have to figure out now is the tax laws and finding decent suppliers. Also marketing & social medias of course.

Long story short my employer didn’t want to continue business where I live in Louisiana. We expanded from Texas.
 
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Yeah 50 is what I've been told. Thankfully I have 3 years of pool cleaning experience + years of Waterpark operations. All I have to figure out now is the tax laws and finding decent suppliers. Also marketing & social medias of course.

Long story short my employer didn’t want to continue business where I live in Louisiana. We expanded from Texas.
Look up your state Dept of Revenue and they should tell you if services are taxable or not and if so what the rate is and how to pay it. Then check if your county has its own tax on top of the State.
 
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