Lumi's Batshit Insane Thread

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There are better Creationist trolls on Youtubecomments than you, people with better rebuttals for this information than you can or ever will hope to be. You are, in my opinion, utterly exposed as nothing more than a Poe at this point, because you are clinically incapable of taking this argument outside of your pathetic talking points about Newton and Bacon and Pasteur, because you are not even aware of the advances made in genetics and biology over the past half century, because you don't know what NADPH is, or ATP, or why any critical biological process occurs. You are a joke, is what I'm saying.
Yep. Lumie is just pathetic. He keeps going back to the same handful of silly comebacks he has been using for years. It is clear he hasn't even bothered to research his own crazy shit.
 

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LOL you paid a shitload of money to be fed a bunch of bullshit.
That's interesting.

What is the genomic basis of Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva again?

Lumie strikes me as the only person from his cult compound that has internet access.
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Yep. Lumie is just pathetic. He keeps going back to the same handful of silly comebacks he has been using for years. It is clear he hasn't even bothered to research his own crazy shit.
Its pretty clear at this point he's a Poe, in my opinion. I no longer believe he actually believes anything he claims to believe.
 

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I really wish you'd all stop calling Lumie a troll. It's an insult to genuine trolls. Lumie is legit mental and probably should be on some kind of medication if he isn't already.
 

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dunno if Newton is even the greatest scientist to ever live. I mean he's in the top 10 list, no doubt. And he's certainly the most famous. But there's a lot of great scientists. A lot of them. Most of them we've probably never even heard of. That's not entirely a horrible thing.

Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin. Also right up there in the top 10. A whole host of chemical engineers who defined and continue to define an entire lifestyle for 2 going on 3 generations now. I mean... the dude that invented saran wrap. The fucking dude that invented saran wrap. He wasn't an inventor. He was a sceincetist.
 

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I will give him a pass for considering Newton one of the greatest scientists in history (debatable opinion that I firmly disagree with), but Tesla was about as far from a creationist as a guy can be. Creationists love to misinterpret his words to try and claim him, though, like they often do with Einstein.
First of all, Isaac Newton is UNQUESTIONABLY the greatest scientist of all time. For you to firmly disagree with it only means you are firmly fucking retarded. Who would you consider to be greater than him? Can't wait to hear this answer. Second of all, Tesla was undoubtedly a creationist. What the fuck else do you think he's saying when he specifically says that the gift of mental power comes from God? Third of all, Einstein was also a creationist and it's dumb fucking atheists like you that are actually the ones misinterpreting his words.
 

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Newton prior to about age 30? Great scientist, mathematician, etc.

After 30, eh. I mean he basically stopped doing science, wasted most of his time pursuing nonsense prophecies from the Bible, he did some pretty interesting work I think chasing down counterfeiters at one point for the state as well.

Dude was also the most autistic person in history, though. Its no wonder Lumie jacks off thinking about the guy at night.

Newton was a good scientist and an incredibly smart man. But he was also prone to some pretty crazy beliefs as a result.

First of all, Isaac Newton is UNQUESTIONABLY the greatest scientist of all time. For you to firmly disagree with it only means you are firmly fucking retarded. Who would you consider to be greater than him? Can't wait to hear this answer. Second of all, Tesla was undoubtedly a creationist. What the fuck else do you think he's saying when he specifically says that the gift of mental power comes from God? Third of all, Einstein was also a creationist and it's dumb fucking atheists like you that are actually the ones misinterpreting his words.
No one gives a fuck about your false idol worshiping nonsense.
 

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That's a net positive even still and the failure should be counted as an accomplishment.

If it's there and Newton couldn't find it then, honestly, what chance to the rest of us chumps even have?

He lived in an age of Alchemy. Shit wasn't so crazy. Newton's utter failure to produce results along those lines of inquiry have more than a little to do with the attitude of, "Well. That's kinda crazy, innit?"
 

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Ten guys off the top of my head:

Hawking, Einstein, Pasteur, Salk, Euclid, Galileo, Archimedes, Marie Curie, Faraday, and James Watson. Newton was great and might deserve to be among that group, but he admitted himself that he built his work on the work and observations of others. He also had enormous resources at his disposal to conduct his work, unlike the vast majority of those other pioneers, which is why (along with him being a massive dick) that I don't consider him as great as those other guys.

Also, your belief that Einstein (or Tesla) was a creationist is neither factual, nor surprising. Point of fact, Einstein actually shot the religious bozos down for saying that shit during his own lifetime.
 

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One scientist that definitely belongs on some top list of scientists is Franz Boas, for a shitload of reasons. He was single handidly responsible for destroying scientific racism, for one, and lots of other pseudo science. Did enormous work in developing the field of ethnography and physical anthropology and wresting them from non academic scientist hobby-ists who helped contribute to the intellectual foundations that led to the Holocaust.

Even trying to define "great scientist" runs into questions of how we define what a great scientist is. A great scientist, in my view, is one who passionately pursues evidence and whose research results in a large positive net benefit to human society. Boas definitely matches those characteristics.
 

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Ten guys off the top of my head:

Hawking, Einstein, Pasteur, Salk, Euclid, Galileo, Archimedes, Marie Curie, Faraday, and James Watson. Newton was great and might deserve to be among that group, but he admitted himself that he built his work on the work and observations of others. He also had enormous resources at his disposal to conduct his work, unlike the vast majority of those other pioneers, which is why (along with him being a massive dick) that I don't consider him as great as those other guys.

Also, your belief that Einstein (or Tesla) was a creationist is neither factual, nor surprising. Point of fact, Einstein actually shot the religious bozos down for saying that shit during his own lifetime.
No you fucking idiot. Einstein shot down atheists. Einstein said on multiple occasions that God doesn't play dice and that the universe is clearly a construction of an intelligent being far greater than ourselves. Also, LAUGH OUT FUCKING LOUD at Hawking being a better scientist than Newton. Holy fuck you're retarded. Hawking hasn't even done anything to advance science whatsoever you fucking retard. There isn't a single fucking thing that he's done to help improve man kind in anyway shape or form whatsofuckingever. God damn you're so fucking delusional it's a fucking joke.
 

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Lumie when the world didn't end or even like, get worse in any measurable way after 2012, how did that make you feel?
 

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On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from Joseph Dispentiere, an Italian immigrant who had worked as an experimental machinist in New Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was disappointed by a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious. Einstein replied on 24 March 1954:

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.[9]
-A Einstein
 

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The dice comment is the exact one religious sheeple pull out of their ass and he stated himself that he was speaking metaphorically. But if you did not have such a strong confirmation bias against the entirety of reality, you would already know that.

As for Hawking, you evidently have not been keeping up on his work on singularities and so on. A lot of shit he came up with in his head is only now being confirmed by observations and experimentation. I can understand your dislike for him, though, since he is physically handicapped while your handicaps are mental. Sort of a Jets vs Sharks thing....
 

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Outside of Newton, you guys hate mathematicians.
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Gauss, Euler, Riemann, Euclid, plenty of pro as shit mathematicians in the greatest scientists of all time. Doesn't matter if they said they believed in God or not though, any of them. Almost all of them lived in a time where saying you didn't believe in God was a good way to get your career ruined at best, burned at the stake at worst.

However, science isn't about worshiping the greats of the past. It builds and builds and the heroes of the past are dwarfed by the mountain of knowledge that was built up after them. Euclid would be completely overwhelmed if he was taken into modern times. It would take him years to catch up to what a bachelor's in mathematics teaches you today. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be brilliant after he caught up, but he would have to climb that mountain.
 

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Lumie, can you elucidate for us where, exactly, Lucifer and the Reptiloids are living, currently?
 

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Why can people so easily accept the concept that a creator just popped out of nowhere and created the universe but the universe just existing without a creator is nonsense?
 

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Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
Satan is the god of this world and was cast out of Heaven down to the world he was given.
 

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Why can people so easily accept the concept that a creator just popped out of nowhere and created the universe but the universe just existing without a creator is nonsense?
God didn't just pop out of no where. He always existed. The universe however has a clear and definitive beginning and cannot possibly be eternal due to the laws of thermodynamics. Anything which has a beginning requires a creator. It's very simple logic really and very easily verifiable.