Man of Steel

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Frenzied Wombat

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I've been silently anticipating this movie above all others for quite some time, as Superman II was probably one of my favorite childhood movies, however the reviews so far have certainly taken some wind out of my sail.. Though I certainly wanted to see Superman kick ass rather than just lift shit like in Superman Returns, I didn't want this to be a mindless CGI action demo so saturated with special effects and action that it eclipses any story or character interaction. When Zac Snyder was announced as the director this was honestly my primary worry considering 300 and Sucker Punch.

Star Trek: Into Darkness to me was entirely forgettable because it just felt like Mission Impossible 3 in space-- endless non-stop action scenes occasionally broken up by a minute or two of character interaction intended more to offer comic relief than to advance the plot or develop the characters themselves. Action and CGI should feel like something "special"; once it becomes the dominating force in a movie occupying more time than plot development or dialogue you simply become desensitized to it and the movie imho becomes entirely forgettable as yet another action/CGI fest. Star Trek II was epic because 90% of the time was spent developing plot, characters, and tension, so when the action DID finally roll around it felt epic, and when Spock dies you actually FELT something. Star Trek: Into Darkness felt entirely the opposite, totally ignoring what Star Trek is supposed to be about in favor of being a generic action movie in space. I couldn't care less about the new crew because to be honest we've never even see any of them interact for more than a minute at a time.

Anyways, I digress.. Of course I reserve judgment until I see it, but if the reviews are accurate and all we get is his origin story repeated AGAIN followed by an hour and a half of endless CGI action I will be pretty disappointed.

Personally, special effects and high end graphics in general have become a crutch to be used in lieu of quality story or dialogue. It's the same reason why classic RPG's that used to have to focus on actual content are now all shitty 1st person shooters, or are so laden with fancy graphics actual content gets entirely eclipsed.

It's a definite "see" this weekend, but if the reviews hold true and it's just a big CGI fest I will be disappointed.
 

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Brahma

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Almost all who hate it sound like this quote...

"For a two and a half hour film, there is nearly an hour ? if that ? worth of story, and a weak one at that. The remaining time is all action. The final hour is a tiresome and incessant barrage of buildings, cars spaceships and helicopters exploding. The first half hour isn?t much different. Without a strong story, the action sequences are just chaos and loud noise. And in ?Man of Steel,? there?s a lot of noise."

Sign me the fuck up!!
 

Tuco

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Action and CGI should feel like something "special"; once it becomes the dominating force in a movie occupying more time than plot development or dialogue you simply become desensitized to it and the movie imho becomes entirely forgettable as yet another action/CGI fest.
I agree but I feel that superman movies are an exception to this along with very few other groups (war movies or similar superhero movies like thor, avengers etc (but not batman or even ironman)).

In ST movies I believe the technology and extraterrestial exploration should be the base of the movie and the cg should facilitate that when needed. In Superman/thor I feel the fighting and feats of power should be the base of the movie and the cg should be involved in almost all of that. You could have an opponent who challenged Superman on more of a psychological than physical level, but then you're trying to fit a round hero through a square peg. Superman isn't a complex character so complex challenges aren't as interesting. Just spend your money dialing him to 11.

Maybe I'm just getting old but I'm completely worn out by origin stories for the popular superheros, especially superman because of the Smallville tv show.
 

Homsar

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That is why I come here for opinions. People here actually WANT to see this type of movie. People here play video games longer then 15 minutes before writing a essay on what they think. We still get trolls, and hipster douche bags, but for the most part I can take the opinions here seriously. If the overall consensus is that the movie sucks then chances are pretty good that it sucks. Obviously there are exceptions to that since everyone has different tastes, but for the most part the FoH community has served me well for reviewing stuff.
You're forgetting the Astro's or Nostrodouches on the forum =P but I agree this community has been pretty spot on as far as reviews, even terrible movies like Battleship are broken down and let you know if you will love it or not
 

Nebuchadnezzar

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I think the New York Observer be trolling:

Here is an overproduced $225 million comic book with delusions of grandeur that was better made in 1978 and a lot more fun. Although he came from another planet, Christopher Reeve was a suave, all-American crusader for apple pie, the American Way and the good of man. In the reboot, Britain?s Henry Cavill is an impossibly handsome, camera-ready hunk of beefcake milking camera angles for marketing ploys.He?s no Brandon Routh in Superman Returns or Eric Bana in The Hulk. He?s from TV?s The Tudors, he looks like a Playgirl centerfold and he can probably act too, but you won?t find out here. Upstaged in every scene by flying puppets and computer graphics, he?s at the mercy of cornball writing, indifferent directing and the shadow of pretentiousness cast over the proceedings from start to finish by Christopher Nolan.Mr. Nolan already ruined Batman. Now he incinerates the innocence and humor of the Man of Steel, who registers more like a Model of Marzipan.
 

Foggy

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If people want the Reeve's version of Superman then go watch those movies you dumb fucking twats. I swear, movie critics need to die in a fire.
 

Famm

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I have a hunch this is going to be Amazing Spiderman levels of fail. I'm not even going to go see it but I eagerly await the dramatainment in this thread.
 

fucker_sl

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i normally don't care much about site like rotten for the reasons we all know. But when the opinion is overwhelming negative i start to worry

this is one of those cases
 

Drinsic

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I would be worried if the negative reviews had legitimate complaints. Every one that has been linked is like, IT'S TOO AWESOME or IT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH SHITTY SLAPSTICK or HENRY CAVILL ISN'T GAY ENOUGH.
 

Tarrant

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Same, if they listed off reasons that didn't ultimately lead to "This superman isn't like the old Superman" dozens of times in every review I'd be worried.

Also if I the people I knew who went to see had said it sucked I would be worried.

Neither is the case though.
 

Phazael

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This could really turn it around for Van...... I mean Superman.

Superman is a hard character to write for, especially in an action context. Thats why the better stories with him are more cerebral, like Kingdom Come or Allstar.
 

Grimmlokk

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Same, if they listed off reasons that didn't ultimately lead to "This superman isn't like the old Superman" dozens of times in every review I'd be worried.
Even that might be valid if every dipshit reviewers idea of old Superman wasn't just Christopher Reeves. "Oh there's a thousand issues+ of comics with him? BUT THIS ISN'T LIKE THE OTHER MOVIE!".....fuck off.


edit: Also, I've been banging theKingdom Comedrum for years. They need to pull the plug on the Justice League movie, it won't be good in this version of the DC universe. Just jump ahead to Kingdom Come and give us old superheroes beating the fuck out of everyone, it will be epic.
 

Chanur

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If this movie is anything less than amazing my soul will be crushed.