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And if we have, and still liked the movie?
News at 11: Some people liked Man of Steel, some didn't! And some are just claiming they didn't so they can farm negs. You seem to be doing rather well at it, but Trollface is trying a bit too hard and it isn't working I don't think.
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Hell forget the comics for a second. Christopher Reeve's Superman shatters Zod's hand and then throws him into a icy pit. Then watches as Lois kills Ursa, and Non jumps to his death thinking he can still fly. He is smiling during all of this btw. Oh, and at the end of the movie he also goes back to the diner and hurts the truck driver who had beat him up earlier in the movie. In Superman 4 he straight up destroys Nuclear Man by dropping him into the core of a nuclear power plant. I seem to recall him getting some revenge on a douche bag at a gym at some point too?
If we want to go with other media I believe the entire Injustice line is about Superman killing The Joker by putting his hand through his chest? I haven't played the game so don't know the whole story. Superman kills when the writers say he kills. It is only "out of character" when it doesn't sit well with the nerds.
If we want to go with other media I believe the entire Injustice line is about Superman killing The Joker by putting his hand through his chest? I haven't played the game so don't know the whole story. Superman kills when the writers say he kills. It is only "out of character" when it doesn't sit well with the nerds.
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I really don't know where this pussy-footing whining of "Superman never kills" came from. Pre-Crisis, it's known Superman had no problems killing. You used deadly force against him and you were likely getting some back. A simple Google search pulls up the canon instances of Superman killing:
Canon kills of Superman:
Superman killing Doomsday in the end of the The Death of Superman arc.
The Adventures Of Superman #444 and Superman #21 and 22, "The Supergirl Saga". He killed General Zod, Zaora and Quex-Ul when he went to visit the Pocket Universe for the second time. These Kryptonians had wiped out all life on Earth and Clark used some Gold Kryptonite to depower them. But because he didn't know how to repair the Phantom Zone projector and didn't know that Gold Kryptonite was irreversible, he was forced to use Green Kryptonite to end their lives. They had threatened to destroy his Earth if they had regained their powers.
Non-Canon but popular mentions:
Pre-Crisis Superman killed Mxyzptlk in Action Comics #583 aka "Whatever Happened to The Man of Tomorrow?". Tore his body in half with a phantom zone projector.
Burning Joe Chill to a crisp in Speeding Bullets, an elseworld's tale about The Wayne family adopting Clark.
Clark Kent killing Titan, a super-powered individual from the Phantom Zone, in Smallville Season 6.
Honorable mention:
Although this doesn't technically count, it does show Superman is willing to kill if he's running out of options. In the New-52, Superman is forced to use heat vision on a girl named Heather who's possessed by an alien being. Although he doesn't kill her, he does it with the intent to kill in order to save millions from being frozen over.
Canon kills of Superman:
Superman killing Doomsday in the end of the The Death of Superman arc.
The Adventures Of Superman #444 and Superman #21 and 22, "The Supergirl Saga". He killed General Zod, Zaora and Quex-Ul when he went to visit the Pocket Universe for the second time. These Kryptonians had wiped out all life on Earth and Clark used some Gold Kryptonite to depower them. But because he didn't know how to repair the Phantom Zone projector and didn't know that Gold Kryptonite was irreversible, he was forced to use Green Kryptonite to end their lives. They had threatened to destroy his Earth if they had regained their powers.
Non-Canon but popular mentions:
Pre-Crisis Superman killed Mxyzptlk in Action Comics #583 aka "Whatever Happened to The Man of Tomorrow?". Tore his body in half with a phantom zone projector.
Burning Joe Chill to a crisp in Speeding Bullets, an elseworld's tale about The Wayne family adopting Clark.
Clark Kent killing Titan, a super-powered individual from the Phantom Zone, in Smallville Season 6.
Honorable mention:
Although this doesn't technically count, it does show Superman is willing to kill if he's running out of options. In the New-52, Superman is forced to use heat vision on a girl named Heather who's possessed by an alien being. Although he doesn't kill her, he does it with the intent to kill in order to save millions from being frozen over.
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Eh, I like the Manchester Black story arch where he pretends to kill Louis. There are a lot more examples of Sups not killing the badguy than there is of him actually doing it. You can't use the Doomsday is dead thing, he's been brought back a dozen times for various reasons.
So wait, just because they bring a character back from death in a comic (lol!) means that invalidates the intent of the person who killed/tried to kill them originally?
Supes has killed before. Get over it for those of you whining about the movie.
Supes has killed before. Get over it for those of you whining about the movie.
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Intentions without fallout is just boring and bad writing. Especially if the resurrection (lol!) is years later by a different writing team. They basically rewrite the history and for a lot of people that pissed off the nerds more than this movie did. (Doomsday example)
I liked the movie well enough, this shouldn't be considered a whine. My wife even enjoyed it and she HATES Superman.
I liked the movie well enough, this shouldn't be considered a whine. My wife even enjoyed it and she HATES Superman.
Second line about whining was more of directed at everyone in this thread who is going on about how Superman doesn't kill people, ever.
I don't think shitty writing at a later date invalidates the intent of a character to kill or try and kill someone though. Superman has killed and performed actions with the intent to kill in the past when the situation is severe enough. So I don't get the outrage over this movie from some of the posters.
I don't think shitty writing at a later date invalidates the intent of a character to kill or try and kill someone though. Superman has killed and performed actions with the intent to kill in the past when the situation is severe enough. So I don't get the outrage over this movie from some of the posters.