Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Big Phoenix

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She's not actively moving away. She doesn't know how to hold her ground when I'm taking her to pound town. So every time I hit her hips she moves forward a little bit and stays there.
Bill burr has a good bit on this on his podcast. Clapping pelvises.

Put your hands on her waist so you have more control over her movement?
 

lurkingdirk

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Long term good sex for partners involves a lot of honest and potentially hurtful discussions. Tell her what she's doing that you don't like, and keep nailing her. It will get better.
 

lindz

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What does good in bed vs. bad in bed constitute?

Like lurkingdirk said, long-term good sex requires communication which I get. I mean after many years with the same person you know what they like, you talk about and try new things when something catches your fancy. But what does it mean to be good in bed when you're in the dating sphere and you're sleeping with someone for the first time?
 

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Yeah, that was one of the issues that was a big source of friction in my relationship with the ex. She was incredibly mediocre in the sack and at giving head. I initially tried coaching her a bit, and she was moderately receptive and took it well, but it made no difference. Instead she only wanted to do positions where I was doing the banging, which got pretty boring very quickly. That resulted in me losing interest having sex, so we were only having it once or twice a week fairly early in the relationship. It didn't help that I often had late nights playing hockey etc and didn't have the energy to go at it, especially if I knew I was doing to have to do all the work. Plus, she always, always, ALWAYS insisted that we do massages first, which is nice sometimes, but sometimes you just want to have a quick bang without it being a 90 minute routine. We continued to talk about it, but not nearly as much or as openly as we should have, and I think on her end she felt a lot of resentment at me not being as interested in her sexually as she was in me.
 

Khane

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What does good in bed vs. bad in bed constitute?

Like lurkingdirk said, long-term good sex requires communication which I get. I mean after many years with the same person you know what they like, you talk about and try new things when something catches your fancy. But what does it mean to be good in bed when you're in the dating sphere and you're sleeping with someone for the first time?
Not to slight you but it's kind of hard to explain to someone who got married at 20.

As a close example what constitutes a good kiss? It's kind of hard to explain and you could try and never really nail it down, some people are just better at it than others and a lot of it has to do with chemistry even more so than the act itself in many cases. And the more "good" you've had the worse the "bad" seems to be in comparison.

Usually when someone knows how to push my buttons and turn me on that translates really well into the bedroom (for obvious reasons). Very rarely does it happen that someone is good at that and bad in bed, this particular woman is a shining example of that though. She really knows how to turn me, is fantastic at foreplay, etc but then just doesn't know what to do with her body during the act.
 

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lindz_sl said:
Like lurkingdirk said, long-term good sex requires communication which I get. I mean after many years with the same person you know what they like, you talk about and try new things when something catches your fancy. But what does it mean to be good in bed when you're in the dating sphere and you're sleeping with someone for the first time?
I've found a lot of younger women just don't know how to have sex. They'll just do boring old cowgirl if they're on top, and don't use their legs/hips much. They'll just kind of shift back and forth a bit for five minutes, and then expect the guy to do the rest.
 

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^^ I actually dont mind doing the work, most of the time when the chick does it its weaksauce and meh, or at least from my experiences. When im in control its pound time, better enjoyment for the both of us.

Cant really judge by one or even a few sexual encounters. It takes a while for people to truly open up. the only thing I could see being a huge turnoff for me personalty would be a total prudish attitude, basically not being into anything at all except missionary, lights off, covered and shit like that. That would definitely be a no 2nd for me, lol.
 

Khane

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^^ I actually dont mind doing the work, most of the time when the chick does it its weaksauce and meh, or at least from my experiences. When im in control its pound time, better enjoyment for the both of us.

Cant really judge by one or even a few sexual encounters. It takes a while for people to truly open up. the only thing I could see being a huge turnoff for me personalty would be a total prudish attitude, basically not being into anything at all except missionary, lights off, covered and shit like that. That would definitely be a no 2nd for me, lol.
I disagree. I'm old enough and have been single long enough to know that it really doesn't take a while for people to truly open up. Some people you have just absolutely phenomenal sex with from the first time you sleep together. You don't need to say anything to each other you just fuck and it's amazing. Like you're in each other's heads and know exactly what the other person wants and likes. Chemistry.

And while I agree communication is good and necessary and I'm not going to just end things with her over something like this so quickly... I've had enough effortlessly great sex that the idea of having to coach someone is incredibly frustrating.
 

lindz

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Not to slight you but it's kind of hard to explain to someone who got married at 20.

As a close example what constitutes a good kiss? It's kind of hard to explain and you could try and never really nail it down, some people are just better at it than others and a lot of it has to do with chemistry even more so than the act itself in many cases. And the more "good" you've had the worse the "bad" seems to be in comparison.

Usually when someone knows how to push my buttons and turn me on that translates really well into the bedroom (for obvious reasons). Very rarely does it happen that someone is good at that and bad in bed, this particular woman is a shining example of that though. She really knows how to turn me, is fantastic at foreplay, etc but then just doesn't know what to do with her body during the act.
Yeah that was kind of why I was asking. The way you described that girls sounds like she'd definitely be the type to be good in bed - yet she wasn't. Weird how the other stuff didn't translate.
 

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When I watch a porno and I see Gianna Michaels having sex I say that is "good", when I watch one of those girls who just lays there and has a half-disgusted look on their face I say that is "bad"
 

Tenks

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When I watch a porno and I see Gianna Michaels having sex I say that is "good", when I watch one of those girls who just lays there and has a half-disgusted look on their face I say that is "bad"
Girls Do Porn is the absolute worse for chicks doing uninterested sex. Shame the chicks are smoking so I watch anyways.
 

Lendarios

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back when I was dating I rarely came on the first time with a new girl. I was too nervous, but it did made for some good hour long sessions.
 

Cad

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Yeah, that was one of the issues that was a big source of friction in my relationship with the ex. She was incredibly mediocre in the sack and at giving head. I initially tried coaching her a bit, and she was moderately receptive and took it well, but it made no difference. Instead she only wanted to do positions where I was doing the banging, which got pretty boring very quickly. That resulted in me losing interest having sex, so we were only having it once or twice a week fairly early in the relationship. It didn't help that I often had late nights playing hockey etc and didn't have the energy to go at it, especially if I knew I was doing to have to do all the work. Plus, she always, always, ALWAYS insisted that we do massages first, which is nice sometimes, but sometimes you just want to have a quick bang without it being a 90 minute routine. We continued to talk about it, but not nearly as much or as openly as we should have, and I think on her end she felt a lot of resentment at me not being as interested in her sexually as she was in me.
Was it a technique problem or an enthusiasm problem? Or were you really just not that attracted to her?
 

Gavinmad

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My story is kinda lame but in the spirit of awkward hookups, I was in my early 20s when I finally learned exactly what 'hotdog down a hallway' was like. I mean obviously I knew what it referred to, but I always assumed it was an exaggeration until I slipped it in this chick and I was the one wondering 'is it in yet?'. I imagine sticking your dick into a jar of fruit preserves would provide the same amount of stimulation as this chick.

One of the best chicks I was ever with was a former stripper that I'm pretty sure in retrospect was working as an escort when we were dating, I just didn't understand what all the signs meant until some years later. She was a hellcat, but she was also a pathological liar whom I suspect might be in prison in Texas now, but you can't look up Texas criminal records for free and I'm not paying just to find out for sure.

I'm like 80% sure this is a recent picture of her and the photographer did a top notch job shooping out her tattoos.
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