Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Onoes

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Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actionsimpliesshe is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is a spontaneous, chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It?s sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fuck you, will find a way to fuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fuck the shit out of you, and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work ? women who want to fuck, will find a way to fuck. The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first, or to "take things slow", is the same girl who fucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun, on spring break, just half an hour after meeting him.

She wasn't really that into you, that's all that you really need to know.
Hahahaha, man, got back from my Tinder date this morning and this is perfect.

So, I said she was driving a couple hundred miles to meet me right? Well, her family owns a s vacation home in Lake Havasu, about an hour from me, so thats where she went. I drove the hour and met her at the door with a bottle of wine and flowers. We talked for a while and then went out to dinner. Everything went really well. She was super chatty and yeah, just a really good time.

We go back to her place and keep talking for a couple hours. At one point she shows me around the house and says "Here's the room I thought we would sleep in, but if you want to sleep in the next room over thats ok". I said ""I like the whole "We" thing you were talking about". She smiled and said "Yeah me too." I say "Hey, would it be alright if I kissed you?", she said yes and we stood there and made out for a minute. She stops it and leads me back to the living room, we hang out on the couch, talking and occasionally kissing. At one point she's straddling me, and we are kissing, and I slide my hands up her dress, on the outside of her legs. She pulls back and says "Ok, I just want this to be clear. We're sleeping together tonight, but that doesn't mean I'm having sex with you." to which I reply "Oh yeah?" kind of assuming she is joking. And she goes "Did you think that was going to happen? Do I seem like that kind of person?" and I said "I don't know, I just met you. I was prepared for the event if it happened, and prepared to leave 10 minutes after we met if this wasn't going well. I think it's going well, I'm fine with whatever, I'm enjoying this." Which was all true.

Eventually we go to the bedroom, she lit a candle and turned off the lights. She asks what I brought to sleep in, I laugh and say I didn't, if I was staying the night I assumed I wouldn't need anything. So I ended up stripping to boxers. She undressed in front of me fully, but with her back to me, and put a light shirt and pajama bottoms on. She has an AMAZING body. Like, ridiculous. She's super athletic and fit. She climbs into bed, and we continue making out / light petting / dry humping (hooray for something I haven't done in 15 years!). We did this until 2-3 in the morning. She grabbed my cock a few times, I felt her up as well, but all over the clothes (Well, I got her top off for a bit, but the bottoms stayed on).

Eventually we slowed down, and stopped. She fell asleep in my arms, all cuddled up in a fetal position. I fell asleep a little bit later.

Woke up with her still in my arms. Started kissing her, and we lightly teased each other some more. A few minutes later she said she needed to get in the shower. She went in the bathroom and I said "Don't worry about closing the door, I'll make sure no one goes in there while you shower." and she laughed and said "I'll leave it open." and she did. Watched her undress and get into the shower. Again, fucking amazing body.

I got out of bed, got dressed, made the bed. She comes out of the bathroom dressed and I shouted "What, you had clothes in there?! Way to ruin my plan." She needed to leave to have breakfast with her father who lives nearby.

I got home, and she's been texting me non stop about how much she liked me, what a great guy I am, and how much she would like to see me again.

Didn't have sex, but really enjoyed myself last night, and have no objections to seeing her again.
 

Khane

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This is the worst story. Tell us Onoes, now that you've cuddled all night with your one true love do you have that "Can't Hardly Wait" feeling? Do you think "She's all that" and more? Or do you think after a while it'll fizzle out and she'll reveal the "10 things I hate about you"?

Next time a woman asks you "Do you think I'm that kind of girl" say "I can't think about anything but what I want to do to you".
 

Gravy

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I'm not trying to be mean, and it's cool she's got a great bod, but you didn't say anything about her face. Butterface?
 

Tenks

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I've only been in one situation where the girl and I were making out, petting and shit and she says she doesn't want to have sex. In that instance I told her that is her decision, I don't like it but I'm leaving (it was already like 1 in the morning.) On my way home she texted me saying next date we'll have sex which we did. I'd rather go home and finish off myself than lay around praying she'll do the job. If the girl is actually into you she'll be nervous about losing you if you just get up and leave instead of letting this bullshit slide.
 

Khane

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A woman asking questions like "Do you think I'm that kind of girl" or proclaiming "Don't get your hopes up" is a subconscious invitation. She is inviting you to take control of the situation. It's a way of finding out what kind of man you are. And 9 times out of 10 they want you to make them succumb to your desire and will.
 

Tenks

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I used to believe in all that subconcious and challenge stuff but anymore I don't put too much faith into it. Could you possibly convince a girl who says all that to screw you? Yeah, probably. But that doesn't mean her saying stuff like that is some kind of invitation to figuring out the combination lock on her chastity belt. I usually just made my intentions clear and if her intentions didn't line up I wouldn't go full on bitch-mode about it but I'd express my displeasure then stop the whole makeout/cuddling shit. I may have been fine with making out and cuddling when I was a virgin or not getting regular sex but that shit stopped immediately when I had regular access to intercourse.
 

Khane

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I used to believe in all that subconcious and challenge stuff but anymore I don't put too much faith into it. Could you possibly convince a girl who says all that to screw you? Yeah, probably. But that doesn't mean her saying stuff like that is some kind of invitation to figuring out the combination lock on her chastity belt. I usually just made my intentions clear and if her intentions didn't line up I wouldn't go full on bitch-mode about it but I'd express my displeasure then stop the whole makeout/cuddling shit. I may have been fine with making out and cuddling when I was a virgin or not getting regular sex but that shit stopped immediately when I had regular access to intercourse.
You just proved my point. She wants to see how you'll react.
 

Onoes

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A woman asking questions like "Do you think I'm that kind of girl" or proclaiming "Don't get your hopes up" is a subconscious invitation. She is inviting you to take control of the situation. It's a way of finding out what kind of man you are. And 9 times out of 10 they want you to make them succumb to your desire and will.
And the other 1 time out of ten you get to be a rapist! Totally worth it.

It's fine, I had a nice night /shrug

And nah Gravy, her body was just definitely her best feature. Her face isn't amazing, but its good, really nice teeth, which is a big thing to me.
 

Onoes

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Your comment about how 9 times out of 10 when a girl says she doesn't want sex she wants you to take control. 1 time out of 10 she doesn't, she just doesn't have sex with dudes she just met. This is based on your science fact statistic.

What i'm saying is, if a girl doesn't want to fuck me a couple hours after she meets me, but does want to make out, I'm cool with that. I don't need to pressure her, or convince her, to succomb to my will and desire.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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Hahahaha, man, got back from my Tinder date this morning and this is perfect.

So, I said she was driving a couple hundred miles to meet me right? Well, her family owns a s vacation home in Lake Havasu, about an hour from me, so thats where she went. I drove the hour and met her at the door with a bottle of wine and flowers. We talked for a while and then went out to dinner. Everything went really well. She was super chatty and yeah, just a really good time.

We go back to her place and keep talking for a couple hours. At one point she shows me around the house and says "Here's the room I thought we would sleep in, but if you want to sleep in the next room over thats ok". I said ""I like the whole "We" thing you were talking about". She smiled and said "Yeah me too." I say "Hey, would it be alright if I kissed you?", she said yes and we stood there and made out for a minute. She stops it and leads me back to the living room, we hang out on the couch, talking and occasionally kissing. At one point she's straddling me, and we are kissing, and I slide my hands up her dress, on the outside of her legs. She pulls back and says "Ok, I just want this to be clear. We're sleeping together tonight, but that doesn't mean I'm having sex with you." to which I reply "Oh yeah?" kind of assuming she is joking. And she goes "Did you think that was going to happen? Do I seem like that kind of person?" and I said "I don't know, I just met you. I was prepared for the event if it happened, and prepared to leave 10 minutes after we met if this wasn't going well. I think it's going well, I'm fine with whatever, I'm enjoying this." Which was all true.

Eventually we go to the bedroom, she lit a candle and turned off the lights. She asks what I brought to sleep in, I laugh and say I didn't, if I was staying the night I assumed I wouldn't need anything. So I ended up stripping to boxers. She undressed in front of me fully, but with her back to me, and put a light shirt and pajama bottoms on. She has an AMAZING body. Like, ridiculous. She's super athletic and fit. She climbs into bed, and we continue making out / light petting / dry humping (hooray for something I haven't done in 15 years!). We did this until 2-3 in the morning. She grabbed my cock a few times, I felt her up as well, but all over the clothes (Well, I got her top off for a bit, but the bottoms stayed on).

Eventually we slowed down, and stopped. She fell asleep in my arms, all cuddled up in a fetal position. I fell asleep a little bit later.

Woke up with her still in my arms. Started kissing her, and we lightly teased each other some more. A few minutes later she said she needed to get in the shower. She went in the bathroom and I said "Don't worry about closing the door, I'll make sure no one goes in there while you shower." and she laughed and said "I'll leave it open." and she did. Watched her undress and get into the shower. Again, fucking amazing body.

I got out of bed, got dressed, made the bed. She comes out of the bathroom dressed and I shouted "What, you had clothes in there?! Way to ruin my plan." She needed to leave to have breakfast with her father who lives nearby.

I got home, and she's been texting me non stop about how much she liked me, what a great guy I am, and how much she would like to see me again.

Didn't have sex, but really enjoyed myself last night, and have no objections to seeing her again.
Reads like a Sweet Valley High fan fiction submission for the "soft core" category

Seriously though, don't ever ask a chick if it's ok to kiss her. Just kiss her. Women HATE to be asked that, they want you to be confident and decisive. Second, that line she fed you about not having sex, that's fine and all, but dry humping for hours? Ughh..
 

iannis

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That entire situation seems odd.

I tend to file stuff like that (not that I have rich women inviting me to their mansions all the time) under the "Well, that was fun" category. And then generally forget about it.

We can sleep together but no sex! What do you think I am, a slut? Well... I didn't until you said that.

keke. Whatevs. If it was a good way to spend a night it was a good way to spend a night.
 

Khane

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Your comment about how 9 times out of 10 when a girl says she doesn't want sex she wants you to take control. 1 time out of 10 she doesn't, she just doesn't have sex with dudes she just met. This is based on your science fact statistic.

What i'm saying is, if a girl doesn't want to fuck me a couple hours after she meets me, but does want to make out, I'm cool with that. I don't need to pressure her, or convince her, to succomb to my will and desire.
You're cool with getting blue balled by a chick you were almost certain was going to fuck you since:

1) You met her on Tinder
2) She drove hours to meet you (for the first time ever)
3) She invited you to stay with her

You're such a doormat dude. It's not about pressuring or convincing. It's about just going for what you want and not being timid and indecisive. There is nothing "rapey" about making your stance known. I mean, unless you really are cool with petting each other like high schoolers until 2 am... which let's be honest. You were at least a bit disappointed by that weren't you? If not I think you need to be sainted.
 

Khane

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I'm actually fucking with you though Onoes. I can't even keep up the trolling charade like that. It's just so mean spirited. Just don't be the nice guy that's so nice it becomes obnoxious.
 

Onoes

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Yea yeah. I mean, I wasn't expecting sex. If I had got there and hadn't liked her, I would have found a way to take off early. I mean, I definitely wasn't expecting a night of 16 year old making out either. I figured A.) it wasn't going to work out and maybe I would go see a movie alone, or it would work out and I would be having sex. When she made the no sex stance clear, making out still sounded preferable to sitting in a theatre alone, I enjoy intimacy, and its now been 3 months since I last had any. I had a good time.

I did talk to her last night on the phone for a bit and I asked "So, I'm really curious about your no sex stance. I mean, I'm fine with it, I had a good time, I'm just curious why it exists. I got the impression you very much wanted to, so why not?" And she explained that she's only ever been with 4 guys, and they were all pretty serious realationships, she's never had a one night stand and didn't want to. She would like to keep seeing me as much as she can (maybe once a month?) but that she knew if she slept with me and then we never spoke again she would be down on herself for a month, so its just not worth it.

I really didn't mind. This girl seems very intelligent, and seems to know what she wants and sticks to her guns. No big deal. I'll see her again, and we'll see what happens.

As for being blue balled, I jerked off when I got home, problem solved. Is "blue balls" an actual thing any of you have experienced? As in some kind of pain or whatever? I don't get that at all, if its even an actual thing. I kind of assumed it was just a figure of speech to be honest.
 

BrutulTM

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As for being blue balled, I jerked off when I got home, problem solved. Is "blue balls" an actual thing any of you have experienced? As in some kind of pain or whatever? I don't get that at all, if its even an actual thing. I kind of assumed it was just a figure of speech to be honest.
It's just one of the many lies that dudes tell to girls to try to convince them to give it up. It's just been around so long that people think it's an actual thing now.
 

Onoes

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Xarpolis

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Blue balls is ABSOLUTELY a thing. I've experienced it once in my life (high school) and it was horrible. I was really into this chick and she played with my dick over the pants. I guess she didn't want to take it any farther. When I went home (I had to get a ride...) it felt like I was kicked in the nuts over and over and over again. I had trouble walking, I was in so much pain.

Again though, this only happened in high school. I had other situations that "should" have been blue balls, but they weren't, so maybe it's because your physical chemistry changes as you age?