Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Khane

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Because I don't live in a mansion with spare rooms built just for fucking. Besides I still have clean that shit up after. I don't think you realize just how annoying it is. It's literally at least a half a quart of liquid every single time she cums. And she can do it back to back to back.
 
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It's impossible to keep the level seen when you first went out, but you mustmaintainher attraction to you if you want that sex, not communicate that you're missing it when she dries up.

No one's the perfect alpha male. You're not gonna maintain that level of attraction forever: it will go up, go down (more often go down), but by changing your behaviors and attitude, you have control of it, of her attraction, to a higher degree. This is obviously completely misunderstood in mainstream society, as evidenced by the 'advice' seen here.

I'm not married, not a sucker.
 
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Can you post a picture of the chick(s) you are currently sleeping with? Just body shots would suffice.
 
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I'm only sleeping with one currently. Don't have any without face - don't wanna bother finding one or editing. She's HB7.5 - 8, but helps that she's poor. Not sure why that matters though.

You guys are using rational behaviors - open communication, compromise, etc - with something that, by its very definition, is strictly irrational and instinctual. You can't negotiate it: talking over lack of sexual relations never works. The wife may give in, she may have more sex with you, but she isn'tmore attractedto you because of it.

It's a lie sold by society to all of us, that of gender equalism, another line item on the bullshit bill of sale we've all bought into.
 
Khane

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So Dumar. You're saying the secret is to make sure she's attracted to you? Thanks Colombo.
 
Tuco

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Dumar_sl said:
I'm only sleeping with one currently. Don't have any without face - don't wanna bother finding one or editing. She's HB7.5 - 8, but helps that she's poor. Not sure why that matters though.

You guys are using rational behaviors - open communication, compromise, etc - with something that, by its very definition, is strictly irrational and instinctual. Talking about sex never works. The wife may give in, she may have more sex with you, but she isn'tmore attractedto you because of it.

It's a lie sold by society to all of us, another line item on bullshit bill of sale we've all bought into.
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No offense Dumar, but if you're going to bear the banner of redpill you're going to have to cough up the goods. If you don't you sound like a nerd regurgitatingMarxismadvice columns.


Khane I did a quick search for you and no luck, lol. All the dumbass answers are telling people to never stop squirting. I think it can be hot but yeah, I don't want to have sex in a bathroom and point her at the bathtub everytime.
 
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Dumar_sl said:
You're of course free to think whatever. I am a nerd - we all are - but one that gets some pussy, not tons, not none. Here is the same topic of the spreadsheet covered by Roissy:

The Married Man Thirstzone
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The author (And everyone else on the internet, including me) assumes much about the guy when they dole out advice, but I think in general it'd probably be well heeded.

Assuming this guy is basically Aamima, the last thing he needs to do is mewl for pussy, but rather be desirable to her. The dread game accomplishes that, but I recoil at most of the moves guys come up with to play the game.
 
Deathwing

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chaos_sl said:
I've had sex before when I wasn't particularly in the mood. At some point blood and hormones take over. You're acting like the dude wants to rape his wife while she lays there like a cold fish, single tear rolling down her cheek as she turns to the camera unable to face her abuser. His point was that as a man he participates in shit he doesn't really want to, but makes the best of it and generally has a good time. The same thing can apply to sex.
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Yeah, I get that, but I think it's tough to fake. And it's not virgin(s) levels of awkward sex, but you can tell when things are off even a little bit.

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How do you figure? I could refuse to do any of these things, just like the wives apparently refuse sex.



I don't know what your wife looks like, but I don't have to fake my desire to have sex. Sorry bro. That issue has honestly never come up.
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Your wife can't go buy shoes without you?

You've never had the situation where she wants to fuck and you don't feel like it? As I said, if you can still put on a great performance in that situation, good for you. That's something I can't do.

Haast_sl said:
This is confusing. If I brush off sex, it is probably because she pissed me off, I don't feel well, etc. My attraction to her doesn't change on a minute-to-minute basis. Not in the mood can turn into the mood, it's just a bigger hurdle to jump the get started if I'm unhappy with her.

Are you suggesting your attraction to your wife is in constant flux? I feel like you are just arguing for fun this point.
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No, I'm not suggesting fluctuating attraction, but your earlier example of circumstantial events ruining the mood. I am having fun arguing, but I'm not arguing for fun. I think this is a good conversation to have. I can't power through sex if I'm not in the mood, even if I have a boner and she's offering. Maybe I'm the odd one out instead.
 
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Khane_sl said:
We've talked about the squirting and she says there's really nothing that she can do. I asked her how she deals with cleanup at her place and she just said "I do the sheets a lot". I asked her why she doesn't have a plastic bed covering and she said "What for?". I am now disgusted by the thought of what kind of shape her mattress is in. The other problem is a harder topic to broach because she just got out of that sexless relationship and we talked very early on about how this was just casual, but I really enjoy her company and it's a little early to just come out and say "We have a problem" because sometimes that freaky, vigorous sex is just what the doctor ordered and I love it and don't want her to get frazzled and have this fizzle out. Feels bad bros.
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The author (And everyone else on the internet, including me) assumes much about the guy when they dole out advice, but I think in general it'd probably be well heeded.

Assuming this guy is basically Aamima, the last thing he needs to do is mewl for pussy, but rather be desirable to her. The dread game accomplishes that, but I recoil at most of the moves guys come up with to play the game.
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Yes, it absolutely would help him, but as Roissy noted, if he's at this point, it's likely too late.

This poor guy is following the script (well, sorta) society told him to: communicate your needs, your frustrations and compromise as two rational parties. Desire is not rational, not something you can 'solve' with discussion. It's a part of the gender equalism lie: you can't argue out or reason with nature. Her genes survived to this point by selecting for assholes - he needs to be one for her to desire.
 
Phazael

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Dumar_sl said:
I'm not married, not a sucker.
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If you think that not communicating is some sort of secret formula to sustained marriage, then its probably a good thing you won't get married. Have fun impressing all the granola eating flannel shirt wearing poor hippy chicks you will be creeping on at the local star bucks for the next couple decades. Real lasting marriage requires trust, communication, and work, not stupid hipster game playing trash designed for batshit princesses. If you want to score stupid nutty bitches in their 20s (or bored ass cougars in their 30s and 40s) for one nighters, those sites are a great resource. If you want to have a good enjoyable long term marriage, stay the fuck away from those places.
 
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Not communicating needs ofdesireis not just a successful formula, it's the only one that will work. If you verbalize & communicate those needs, then that 'enjoyable, long term marriage' will likely (50%) shatter to little pieces in your wife's 20's when she's still a commodity or mid 30's because she isn't haaaappy and needs to be aroused, validated, and violated by the exotic penises of men that stimulate that carnal desire I mentioned, not by you, the guy that 'communicated' so well his love & desire by doing half the dishes. If she's attractive enough and the marriage survives well into her 40's, then grats, you'll likely have won against her hypergamy.

All western women are batshit princesses in this modern society. God bless America.
 
Phazael

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And you base this on what exactly? Your vast years of married experience?

My wife is a tomboy and about as far from a princess as you can get. The only girly things she likes are Disney (fuck that mouse), flowers, and Sandra Bullock movies. Lindz is no princess, either, I'd wager. There are at least a half dozen guys who's wives don't fit that mold, nor would your romance novel dick swinging drivel work on them on a prolonged basis. If you want to be the alpha male with some trophy wife or bangmaid, then that crap might work for as long as the money holds her down. If you have any ounce of respect for your wife as a person and an equal, communicating is going to mean more than anything else you can ever do.
 
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The crowdsourced experience of thousands of married men and my experience in LTRs.

Women don't want your respect. They want you to be better.

If you view your wife as a real equal and you 'communicate' your desire to her as often as you imply (& she's actually attractive with options), I'd probably head to a lawyer now to make it easier later. That's the best advice you'll ever get from this forum.
 
Cad

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I don't agree with Dumar, but on one point he is right: you can't negotiate desire. She has to want to please you, for whatever reason. Whether that reason is you are an understanding and helpful mother fucker who shares his feelings and communicates well, or because you are a "true alpha" (?) that knows how to manipulate her desire temporarily, she has to want you, all on her own. If you want to get mad and say "if you don't give me sex, I will leave", it might work. For a while. But whatever reason she didn't desire you, will still be there. It's worth a shot, but it's unlikely. If sex is something you want regularly and your wife isn't providing it, you need to not just communicate "I want sex" but you need to do something to up your desirability, or kick her to the curb. Those are basically the options.
 
Phazael

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Or maybe she just wants you to brush your teeth before you go down on her and wash your balls before she gives you a hummer, but is too polite to say anything. The kind of shit those guys are talking about is for shallow cunts who they probably never should have gotten married to in the first place.
 
mkopec

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There is definitely some truth to what Dumar is saying. Remember, womans sex drive is mostly emotional on a deeper level than ours. For us just seeing the taco or a boob is pretty much arousal. Ive read into some of that red pill stuff and it makes sense. But Im not going to change who I am because my wife is bored and hypergamy kicks in? Its like acting like someone else to me. Im not brad Pitt and drama is not my strong suit. I was alpha? enough to score her in the first place so I should be alpha enough to keep her. There will always be hotter guys, more successful, more dickhead asshole guys than me.
 
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Dumar_sl said:
The crowdsourced experience of thousands of married men and my experience in LTRs.

Women don't want your respect. They want you to be better.

If you view your wife as a real equal and you 'communicate' your desire to her as often as you imply (& she's actually attractive with options), I'd probably head to a lawyer now to make it easier later. That's the best advice you'll ever get from this forum.
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The way I see it, you've got no basis for whatever it is you are trying to promote here.

We don't have kids, so I stay the fuck out of the Parenting Thread/Pregnant Thread. Not because I don't think I might have some insight that I brought from my own childhood, but simply because I don't have kids and lack the perspective of a parent. I have no authority on the subject, the same as you have none here.
 
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