Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Tenks

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I once sold a laptop to the Bengals field goal kicker. So I'm kind of part of the NFL. I also got drunk with the Bengals cheerleaders once at a bar.
 
Kirun

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Tenks_sl said:
I once sold a laptop to the Bengals field goal kicker. So I'm kind of part of the NFL. I also got drunk with the Bengals cheerleaders once at a bar.
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I'll allow it. You appear to be qualified enough to post on the topic of the NFL. Have fun discussing it with Utnayan.
 
Gravy

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True story:

Myself and a buddy went into a small Missouri college town one night wearing nice Chief's polo shirts and let it 'slip' that he was Nick Lowry and I was Tim Grunhard. The free drinks just kept on'a coming. Good times.
 
Haast

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Iannis_sl said:
This thread started off as a pretty strong "fuck gold diggers + all women are gold diggers" thread anyway before it was hijacked.

Is redpill relevant to the temporary tensions arising in a long marriage? Nah, probably not. But don't go all thread purist about it. Pages 1-10 are pretty fucking bad.
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This thread had developed a purpose over time: the sharing of divorce experiences (with some follow up on dating post-divorce) and husband/wife interaction venting. Lately, it has been a complete spill-over of GWBYH material.

I enjoy both threads, but I come here for a different purpose. It would be nice if content aligned better.
 
Cad

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Especially since I think the posters from the original GHBYHT are creeped out by J49's hooker stories.
 
BrotherWu

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I thought this thread was a place for us to pretend to be having conversations about marital relationships while we all wait for lindz to post another selfie?

Granted, we have been derailed for about 150 pages.
 
Noodleface

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BrotherWu_sl said:
I thought this thread was a place for us to pretend to be having conversations about marital relationships while we all wait for lindz to post another selfie?

Granted, we have been derailed for about 150 pages.
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The point of this thread was red pill discussion. For a brief moment of time, it became the Onoes show. After we all found out he was a 13 year-old goth boy in a baby man's body we had to find a new object to focus on: Julian. Julian's stories aren't as over the top as Onoes', but there is potential. Couple this with a sprinkling of lindz selfies and bra pics (brb, need to go to the basement) and here we are.

Wife got pissed at me because I was exhausted and fell asleep the other night as soon as I hit the mattress. She told me she really wanted to bone but was mad because I fell asleep and ignored her "signs." Not sure why women need to throw out random signals that I'll never pick up. If I want to bone, I go straight into the sweet talk and tender kisses. Told her next time to just wake me up and I'd be ready, but she doesn't get it.
 
Chysamere

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Deathwing_sl said:
Thanks, looks like I was wrong about that. I guess I'm lucky that I've only met women that were just as horny as me(or more).
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I have nothing to add other than this:

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BrotherWu

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I read some of the redpill links and followed a web of other links. I think that some of the principals are probably grounded in truth, particularly on the front end of a relationship when you are trying to establish the initial attraction and transition to lockdown.

However, I just don't see that shit working when you apply it dogmatically to a long-term marriage. It actually reminded me of things you read in dog training books about trying to elicit behaviors.

Those of us who have been married for 10+ years will attest to the fact that you'd be hard pressed to pull that shit on your wife. My wife has a very keen insight into what I am thinking, planning or being motivated by at any given time. It is uncanny, really. She'd call me on whatever I was trying to do.

At some point, marriage transitions to more of a partnership in navigating life's existential pathways. It seems to me that espousing a manipulative, almost Pavlovian, approach to getting the desired response out of your spouse is as much a betrayal of your vows as an ongoing refusal to provide affection. I think the duplicity of tedious familiarity and comforting familiarity is a paradox that has to be managed, not solved.

That said, maybe there is something to be said for some of it. It can't hurt to be display alpha characteristics, stay and shape and pack a big penis.
 
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Dabamf_sl

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It's 2 days after Kirun admitted to copy pasting directly from rational male, and now Duppin is doing the exact same thing and people are responding to him. Jesus

Also, this is the new GWBYHT. The original is nothing but hooker stories now. And basically they're the same anyway...broke your heart / wouldn't touch your penis...I see no difference.
 
iannis

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She posted knees. Think of it as retro-porn.

These things are cyclical. In about another 80 years those knees will be considered absolutely lewd.

All life really requires is patience.
 
Tuco

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Dumar_sl said:
And so, deconstructing and eventually discarding the ideas modern society has fed us, that of the advice to apply rationality to human interpersonal relationships on the basis of gender equalism, we can arrive at a more correct view, an understanding more reflective of biomechanical and psychosocial reality as it applies to the nature of women. We're not attaching quality to this nature - it's neither good nor bad; it justis, the same way the nature of specific animals just are.

Whatisdepressing however, is that this view constructed from reality destroys love's idealism. There is no such thing called love outside of a pure ideological, constructed thing, and the construction society has provided has to be discarded, looking into the nature of women, if we are to be objective and understand things such as they are.

Women 'fall in love' with you based on your psychosocial behavior towards them and greater society, which is reflected in both those behaviors and your attitude. That's opportunism. It is conditional, and this behavior & attitude must be maintained, both in the LTR and a marriage. Men are purely physical: a wife just has to maintain her body, and our idealistic notions of love will take root and mostly stay put because of how men have regulated themselves throughout history, through notions of virtue, honor, respect, etc (even if those are too illusory, we conduct ourselves according to them). Women, on the other hand, have survived, that is, their genes nature has selected by being opportunistic to dominance, and that is expressed today by what we call confidence (again, even if it's illusory).

Or the tl;dr, as Rollo said:Men love idealistically. Women love opportunistically.

This is what redpill and Game is for, to dispell these illusory notions, put reality back into view and give some power back to guys in the dating market.
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Honestly, Dumar, you're really bad at selling redpill ideology. You always go full redpill from the start and say shit only a (red) koolaid drinking person would buy. You then mix in these ridiculous absolutes like, "men are purely physical' which makes any reasonable idea you're trying to express difficult to separate from the tripe. You also overcomplicate what amounts to a pretty basic set of ideas.
 
alavaz

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Dumar busted out Leykis 101 on us. I'm sure all that shit will get you laid but you'd have to be a braver (or dumber) man than I to attempt to apply that to your marriage or long term relationship. If you've had kids and been snipped (as I have), or are trying to have kids, the consolation prize of getting your wife off of birth control is that ovulation will pretty much guarantee you one week each month where you get sex about any time you (or probably she) want it.
 
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Tenks_sl said:
For sure but Dumar coming in talking about how after being together for five years I need to be concerned about building attraction and carnal desire is fucking stupid. It reeks of reading a few blogs and seduction forums and having a girlfriend here and there for six months max. Which is more appropriate for the GWBYHT instead of here which shouldn't be concerned about picking up women.
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What if I come in here and talk about it. My wife left me after 12 years of being my best friend, and lover. I had a great relationship. I looked forward to every day. We had children.

One day, she told me she was no longer attracted to me. 6 hours later, she left.

5 years? That's nothing.
 
Kirun

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Dumar_sl said:
Or the tl;dr, as Rollo said:Men love idealistically. Women love opportunistically.
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See, this is another area where I vehemently disagree with Rollo. Do women have a higher propensity to love opportunistically? Yeah, perhaps, but let's not pretend like men wouldn't also do the same if presented the opportunity. We certainly tend to seek/have sex opportunistically. Men just tend to be offered that position a whole lot less frequently. No man among us wouldn't jump at the opportunity to be Oprah's house husband, let's be honest.

EDIT : Hell, look at guys like Khane and Frenzied Wombat. They've both said that a woman who isn't "career eatablished " is typically a no. That's a pretty prime example of conditional love.
 
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