Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Tenks

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What if I come in here and talk about it. My wife left me after 12 years of being my best friend, and lover. I had a great relationship. I looked forward to every day. We had children.

One day, she told me she was no longer attracted to me. 6 hours later, she left.

5 years? That's nothing.
99.99% certain there is more to this than simply attraction
 

Daelos

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99.99% certain there is more to this than simply attraction
Of course. After more than a decade together, there's a web of "somethings". But there were no big red flags. It ended because she stopped being attracted to me (and simultaneously became attracted to a colleague).
Basically, relationships (romantic ones) start with mutual attraction - and end when attraction stops.
 

Deathwing

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So, this redpill bullshit basically boils down to: be the guy you think your wife is going to want you to be?

Sounds like a waste of time to me.
 

Tenks

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So, this redpill bullshit basically boils down to: be the guy you think your wife is going to want you to be?

Sounds like a waste of time to me.
Red Pill is basically you present yourself in a manner that is most classically attractive to females. But just because the majority of women like men like this doesn't mean all of them like men like this. And I've already gone over trying to transfer over from this red pill facade to your "real" self is littered with issues as well. Red Pill is good for one night stands but bad for relationships.
 

iannis

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Faithlessness can be dressed up a lot of different ways, but that's all it really sounds like Daelos.

Bored now, need new toy.
 

iannis

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Faithlessness can be dressed up a lot of different ways, but that's all it really sounds like Daelos.

Bored now, need new toy.
 

Tuco

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Of course. After more than a decade together, there's a web of "somethings". But there were no big red flags. It ended because she stopped being attracted to me (and simultaneously became attracted to a colleague).
Basically, relationships (romantic ones) start with mutual attraction - and end when attraction stops.
I don't want to pick at old wounds, but what do you think caused her to stop being attracted to you?
 

Khane

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EDIT : Hell, look at guys like Khane and Frenzied Wombat. They've both said that a woman who isn't "career eatablished " is typically a no. That's a pretty prime example of conditional love.
Unconditional love doesn't exist. We all have hang-ups.
 

chaos

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Of course. After more than a decade together, there's a web of "somethings". But there were no big red flags. It ended because she stopped being attracted to me (and simultaneously became attracted to a colleague).
Basically, relationships (romantic ones) start with mutual attraction - and end when attraction stops.
I find it hard to believe that there were no red flags, more likely that you missed what red flags were there. I guess it is possible, shit happens.

In my experience,t here is more to it than attraction. I'm attracted to a lot of women, acting on that is a whole other thing.
 

Khane

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Regardless of relationship status I find it crazy how many people start inter-office relationships. I understand that you have a default common ground and spend a good portion of your day with these people but it's absurd how many people don't care about the fall out or consequences of a romance gone sour with someone you work with. People just don't understand the "don't shit where you eat" mantra. Although I suppose logic and consequences drives me more than most in my love life.
 

Big Phoenix

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I find it hard to believe that there were no red flags, more likely that you missed what red flags were there. I guess it is possible, shit happens.

In my experience,t here is more to it than attraction. I'm attracted to a lot of women, acting on that is a whole other thing.
Well yeah youre not J49.
 

Dabamf_sl

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There should be a rule that all "she won't bang me anymore" complaints be accompanied by a past and present photo of the poster, or at the very least, weight and stomach circumference measurements. We also need some sort of "resignation in life" measurement to account for dudes who have just decided to go through the motions anymore and basically only seek to not die every day.

Too many people take care of themselves while dating, then bathe in 80oz cokes from 7/11 and mainline cinnamn roll icing after marriage. It has to be a huge factor
 

Soygen

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Agreed. It's my dick getting hardandmy panties getting wet.
 

Soygen

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I don't wash them. I just throw them out when I'm done.

Also, tweed.
 

Leadsalad

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There is definitely game for a long term relationship. It's just a different sort of work. And if you want to keep getting laid on the regular it's hard work.

Go google MMSL and read the guy's stuff.

But I'm sure this will still be "too red pill" for most of you and you'll dismiss it out of hand. The 911 forum there is a tragic place to end up due to someone not taking care of their responsibilities in a relationship to keep the attraction working.
 

alavaz

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There should be a rule that all "she won't bang me anymore" complaints be accompanied by a past and present photo of the poster, or at the very least, weight and stomach circumference measurements. We also need some sort of "resignation in life" measurement to account for dudes who have just decided to go through the motions anymore and basically only seek to not die every day.

Too many people take care of themselves while dating, then bathe in 80oz cokes from 7/11 and mainline cinnamn roll icing after marriage. It has to be a huge factor
I'm sure the "resignation in life" factor is bigger than the gut factor. My purely non-scientific observation has been generally that man maintains weight (or makes a modest gain) after marriage and woman balloons up. If anything, the decline in sex is probably a lot more due to her self esteem issues than her attraction to you. If there's one thing all non-virgin men know, it's if a chick doesn't feel sexy she probably isn't putting out. For men, taking a shower and manscaping and all that bullshit is for women. Cause we'd still fuck with a sweaty hairy ass, bad breath and body odor and not think twice about it. For women though, showering, shaving, looking good, etc. is as much for them as it is us.
 

opiate82

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I'm sure there is some insightful analysis in all the redpill/PUA/MMSL* stuff, but what it comes down to for me is I am most comfortable being myself and I ended up with an amazing wife without bothering with any of that shit. And most decidedly I wasn't doing any of that stuff naturally and/or intuitively either. I was just myself and get to continue being just being myself and found someone absolutely compatible with that. If you are just looking to get laid that is great, but if you are looking for an LTR I just don't see how that stuff is compatible with building the foundations of a stable and long-lasting relationship if it is basically based on manipulation.

*admittedly I'm not familiar with the MMSL stuff and am making assumptions based on it being compared to "red pill"