Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Eomer

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Guessing it's not weiner issues if he's still masurbating. Stress, confidence issues, depression? Is he still attracted to you?
Speaking as a dude in a similar relationship (we're not married, but have been together coming on two years now), it's not depression, lack of confidence or lake of attraction in my woman. I just don't have the energy many nights to participate in the 30-60 minutes that the entire process takes. I want to eat dinner, have a beer, read or watch TV on the couch for an hour or two, and go the fuck to bed so I can get up at 5:30am the next day and repeat another 10-12 hour work day. My girlfriend is smoking hot, and probably would have sex daily if I was up to it, but for me 2-3 times a week is plenty. She was getting pretty concerned about it after we'd been living together a few months, because I think she assumed when she moved in it would become daily, and after we talked about it and explained how I felt, it's been pretty good. I think the biggest thing she had a concern with is that she was initiating the sex the majority of the time, so I've been making the effort to initiate with her more often, and she seems to be happy with things now.

The only spare time I have on a weekday is basically 6pm-10pm when I get home from work. 30-60 minutes of that is spent eating dinner. Another 30-60 is spent watching whatever TV show she wants to watch, or going for a run with her. God forbid I have an hour or two to read a magazine or play some video games before I hit the sack.
 

BrutulTM

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You know, I don't care about masturbation as long as it doesn't have a detrimental effect on my sex life. I get that sometimes guys need to blow off steam and take care of business themselves. Problem though, I have a much more active sex drive than my husband. It drives me bonkers when he gets stressed out with work and just takes care of it on his own then I get nothing. Sure I can do the same, but I'd rather not, it is just no where near as satisfying. Why the heck do you men do this? Makes for a cranky wife when I get turned down because of that.
He actually tells you that he doesn't want to have sex because he already jerked off? I think every dude jerks off but I've never turned down sex afterward because of it. I think it's a general sex drive problem and doesn't have anything to do with whether he has been whacking it or not.

I wish that there could just be a broadcast to the women of the world along the lines of:

All males jerk off. It's just what we do.
We look at porn while we do it.
It doesn't mean that something is wrong with you or the relationship or that anyone is unsatisfied about anything.
It's no different than having a snack while you watch TV.
We've been doing it since we were 12 and we're not going to stop until it stops feeling good.
Stop worrying about it and stop bothering us about it. All you're going to accomplish is to make us lie to you.

I have never been convinced by anyone that dudes exist that don't whack it to porn if they have the opportunity. I have seen enough old men's web histories to know that it goes on for life, but it seems like a whole lot of women can't understand it and refuse to believe that it doesn't mean anything other than the fact that their dude likes having orgasms.
 

lindz

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Quite honestly, because it takes about 5 minutes, zero emotional energy, and you don't have to worry about another person's needs. And yes it's selfish, absolutely.
Yeah I figured. Stupid selfish boys.
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Guessing it's not weiner issues if he's still masurbating. Stress, confidence issues, depression? Is he still attracted to you?
Oh no we're not talking about serious problem of never having sex anymore. I just have a really active sex drive and his has been lower than usual because of stress. I might have made it sound worse than it is. We've still been having sex probably 4 times a week for the past three months, this is just significantly less than our standard.
 

Khane

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I just don't have the energy many nights to participate in the 30-60 minutes that the entire process takes.
Next time take a look at the clock at initiation and then again when you're finished. It may seem like 30-60 minutes but it's probably closer to 15.
 

Mures

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Next time take a look at the clock at initiation and then again when you're finished. It may seem like 30-60 minutes but it's probably closer to 15.
He did say the entire process. Quickies, which are spur of the moment, both partners ready to go, take a good 15 minutes.
 

Eomer

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Next time take a look at the clock at initiation and then again when you're finished. It may seem like 30-60 minutes but it's probably closer to 15.
I'm not talking just the banging. There's the cuddling, the foreplay, the making out, the banging, the ejaculation, the vomiting, the crying, the cuddling again. It goes on and on bro. Shit, most of our sex starts with massages for both people. That's 20 minutes right there. 15 minutes for her to massage me, and 5 minutes while I go through the motions before I just shove it in.
 

Phazael

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@Leo's post (fuck forgot to look what page this thread was on)-
Yeah your already done at this point. All you are doing is propping up a corpse. How "close" were you with this other person in chat logs? My spidey sense tells me that there is a good chance she banged some overseas exotic dong and was looking for an out when she sleuthed your internet logs. You try and fix things, but women remember shit like that and hold that bitterness forever. Not a fun five years, I would imagine.

You made several errors here. First, you got emotionally involved with someone who is not your wife. You did it while she was on an extended work related separation from you. Then you kept chat logs of the activity for god knows what reason in a place your wife was able to locate them. Then you conceived a kid while nursing a marriage in a tailspin. Oh, and you put your family members who also have marriage issues ahead of your wife while this attempted reconciliation was going on. That's a lot of unforced errors to recover from.

Staying together is just going to fuck up your kid massively, but not having a dad and an absent doctor mom pretty much means she is headed for the pole at some point anyhow. Even if you assume the kid is yours, the kid's best shot would be for your soon to be ex wife to settle in with a stable non-asshole new guy who does a decent job parenting her. If you stay together "for the kid", your all going to be miserable and the wife will just fill her ears with man-hate focused on how you jacked it one time on Skype a decade ago with some foreign whore. That's if the kid is yours.

I think Big P and Gav are correct, though. One month before the bun is out of the oven and she is trying to get you out of the picture? Someone in her field with all the obvious away from home work probably has ample chances to fuck around, plus in her brain she probably figured it was justified since you were flirting with someone online ages ago. She might even know it is someone else's kid and is looking for an exit that keeps her infidelity secret. Women don't just dump fathers that close to term, unless something else is going on.

In my view, the marriage is fucked anyhow so now it is about minimizing the collateral damage. I would search her computer and maybe phone for evidence of communication with a possible baby daddy. Then based on what you find, I would get the DNA test done. If there were any odd fluxes in your sex life 8 months ago, I would get the test done anyhow. Worst case scenario, you will get divorced, lose time with the kid, and have the ex poison the kid against you for being an asshole in a family of assholes. This is going to happen anyhow, so you may as well get the test done. If it is some other dudes fuck trophy, then you hammer her in divorce court and Red Pill it for a year while you get your life back together.
 

Khane

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He did say the entire process. Quickies, which are spur of the moment, both partners ready to go, take a good 15 minutes.
No they don't. I remember when I was a young lad thinking I was a super stud. "Man I fucked her for like 45 minutes last night. Fuckin' tiring" Then I started to actually look at the clock to see how long it was really going on. And it was like 12 minutes. Quickies are like 6 minutes. There is no reason to fuck for 15 minutes, the woman I'm with right now would cum like 5 times in 15 minutes. If I was with a woman who took 15 minutes to satisfy I'd find another woman. That shit is exhausting.

The point I'm making here is nobody lasts nearly as long as they think they do and it doesn't take nearly as long to make a woman climax either.

Those long, extended sessions are great every once in a while. Slow and sensual. But if I had to go through 30 to 60 minutes of foreplay + sex every single time before I could get my nut I'd choke someone.
 

Mures

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Again, I'm talking about the whole process, not just the time spent fucking. Say you and your partner have a dinner date, you're both cleaned up nice so you decide you want a quickie before you go out the door. By the time you go through the motions and are ready to leave the house again you probably spent ~15 minutes, sure it is only ~5 minutes of fucking, but there is always more to sex than just fucking. Neither Eomer nor myself are claiming to be casanova fucking for 15-30-60 minutes straight at a time, but my experience is similar to eomer, I just assumed most guys are as evident by many guys posting in regards to lindz problem that sometimes you just want to rub one out and not go through all the motions.
 

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No they don't. I remember when I was a young lad thinking I was a super stud. "Man I fucked her for like 45 minutes last night. Fuckin' tiring" Then I started to actually look at the clock to see how long it was really going on. And it was like 12 minutes. Quickies are like 6 minutes. There is no reason to fuck for 15 minutes, the woman I'm with right now would cum like 5 times in 15 minutes. If I was with a woman who took 15 minutes to satisfy I'd find another woman. That shit is exhausting.

The point I'm making here is nobody lasts nearly as long as they think they do and it doesn't take nearly as long to make a woman climax either.

Those long, extended sessions are great every once in a while. Slow and sensual. But if I had to go through 30 to 60 minutes of foreplay + sex every single time before I could get my nut I'd choke someone.
my wife has a magical 20 min timer. Sometimes it seems she is major into it and I think damn she is going to finish fast then sure as shit it somehow turns into 20 mins. EVERY SINGLE TIME> Well I take that back the very first time she used a vibrator it was maybe 5-7 mins. There are nights im even in the mood but then I look at clock and I feel like it's not worth it because I need to get some sleep. It takes me longer and longer to finish as I get older probably pretty typical but the way my wife likes to get off is no good for me so I end up having to wait till she is done then I can end up being another 10-15 mins. We have sex 5 times a week on average occasionally more almost never less but it ends up a lot of time. Jerking off is like 5 mins top, so its hard not being selfish sometimes when just worn out.
 

Nester

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woah....WOAH.. 5 min jerks? sometimes its about the Journey bros. 90 min session every now and then is where its at!!
 

Lenas

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Sounds like the biggest argument for this "not wanting to take the time to sex" argument is being tired. Took me a while to realize that you don't have to wait for bedtime to throw down.
 

Xarpolis

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To jerk? What, are you a virgin or something, fantasizing how great it will be? Guess what... it isn't the magical unicorn you're hoping for.
 

Blazin

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Sounds like the biggest argument for this "not wanting to take the time to sex" argument is being tired. Took me a while to realize that you don't have to wait for bedtime to throw down.
Yes agree completely. Kids are finally back in school so can go back to day time sex, I'd take that over night every time. Best sex has always been during day with no rush just harder to have that as regularly.
 

lindz

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Yeah summer makes day time sex really tough. My two year old has a sex detector I swear. The second we close our bedroom door, she is banging on it and yelling at us.

I totally texted my husband at work promising anal sex if he came home. He was home twenty minutes later by 1pm. Score.
 

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Yeah summer makes day time sex really tough. My two year old has a sex detector I swear. The second we close our bedroom door, she is banging on it and yelling at us.

I totally texted my husband at work promising anal sex if he came home. He was home twenty minutes later by 1pm. Score.
You guys constantly with the anal worship is really that much better than having sex with the tube designed for that purpose? Tighter I guess? But is it really tighter other than at the sphincter? If so please don't tell me, just add it to the list of things I'll never experience. Next you guys will be telling me BJs are awesome too.
 

BrotherWu

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On a whim, I told our kids to go watch a movie, Mom and Dad are going on a date. Took her to a lakefront restaurant close to us, got her drunk, ate a good meal, amazing view, touching and talking, told her on the way home I was going to fuck her senseless when we got there and she said "I don't think so." and wanted me to turn off to go look at a house that was for sale. We have a house. A nice one.

Get home and she starts watching "Pretty Little Liars". What in the fuck? BrotherWu going to kill a bitch.