Again, I'm talking about the whole process, not just the time spent fucking. Say you and your partner have a dinner date, you're both cleaned up nice so you decide you want a quickie before you go out the door. By the time you go through the motions and are ready to leave the house again you probably spent ~15 minutes, sure it is only ~5 minutes of fucking, but there is always more to sex than just fucking. Neither Eomer nor myself are claiming to be casanova fucking for 15-30-60 minutes straight at a time, but my experience is similar to eomer, I just assumed most guys are as evident by many guys posting in regards to lindz problem that sometimes you just want to rub one out and not go through all the motions.