Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Noodleface

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My dad used to get so pissed because my mom used none of the money he gave her on us. It was always on her stuff, her clothes, food for her and my stepfather (me and my brother bought our own food), etc. All she had to do when he argued it at court was she paid the mortgage with the money (which was bullshit). My stepfather was making really good money, and ended up paying for mostly everything - but as long as she said the money coming from my father was providing a roof for us there was nothing he could do. I'm sure he could have kept pursuing it, but I think at a certain point he just felt defeated and stopped.
 

Eomer

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Or at least just not married.
Several of the support sob stories we've heard here, or at least one of them anyways, wasn't even the result of a marriage. The one common thread is that for better or worse, a few of our bros managed to have children with horrible human beings. Marriage isn't to blame for that, necessarily.

Male birth control cannot come soon enough.
 

Jysin

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Yep. Never married and have a fat support check going out every month.

She was on the pill at the time and we dated for years before this. No BC is 100% gents!!
 

Khane

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Several of the support sob stories we've heard here, or at least one of them anyways, wasn't even the result of a marriage. The one common thread is that for better or worse, a few of our bros managed to have children with horrible human beings. Marriage isn't to blame for that, necessarily.

Male birth control cannot come soon enough.
I blame society rather than the individuals. "How can I get something for nothing? Holy shit this entire system makes that pretty fucking easy... and everyone agrees with me! I deserve this!! I shoulda had kids years ago!!!!"
 

chaos

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Wait, I should have been getting something for nothing because of my kids all this time? Not gonna lie bros, kind of pissed right now.
 

Noodleface

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Yep. Never married and have a fat support check going out every month.

She was on the pill at the time and we dated for years before this. No BC is 100% gents!!
She said she was on the pill.. but come on. Dr. Drew even says it's virtually 100% effective and that 1% failure rate is when women forget to take it once
 

Dabamf_sl

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Seriously though male bc will change the world. Number of unwanted children will plummet among the middle-upper class (poor ppl will still have more babies than shits they take) and the sad guy who just gets taken to the cleaner and rarely allowed to see his kid because males have no power in the legal system with children...all because he trusted a girl, that will be a thing of the past.

Have to pay out the ass for child support
No say in whether to keep baby or abort
No power to determine where you live or time you get to spend with your kid.

Its a sad world for single men with kids right now.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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Fears of all of the above has caused me to dodge marriage all my life. The thought of my child support being spent on a new purse rather than shoes for my hypothetical kid, and only being able to see him/her on some measly regulated schedule rustles my jimmies to no end. Why the courts won't at least force the mom to provide receipts for child spending is beyond me. The bottom line though is that the courts just view you as an ATM for the child--justice and morality are irrelevant. I grew up watching my dad get assraped twice despite him being a good father/husband, I'll be damned if I have to walk the same road. Seriously, his 2nd wife was cheating on him, filed for divorce, was caught fucking/making out multiple times with her new bf by my little bro/sis in my DAD's house, and yet she still got custody, the house, child support, and alimony. Within 1 week of the divorce being finalized her new BF moved into my dad's house and my little bro/sis were being encouraged to call him "my other daddy". The court did not care one bit, all they cared about was whether or not the mom did drugs and whether child support/alimony was being paid. Fuck. That. Shit.

I have to hand it to my dad though, somehow he didn't go mental or break down. I know that if I was being fucked that hard, the mere thought of some other dude ramming my ex in my house while my kids watched cartoons in the room next door would send me into a murderous rage. No, don't think I'll be getting married, at least not without some bible sized pre-nup.
 

iannis

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I really don't think it will. For the men who actually care enough there is already effective birth control: Don't fuck random chicks and when you're fucking a not-random not-skank be aware (and mentally prepared for the eventuality) that she might get praegnant.

What male birth control will mean on a realistic and social level is that married men or men in LTR's won't have to consider vasectomy anymore. All jokes aside, that's pretty much all its going to mean. Because those stories where "she was on the pill but it failed" won't magically go away -- they will transform into stories about "butIwas on the pill and itfailed." So you'll be cursing Big Pharma and the backwards legal system instead of cursing that bar skank and the backwards legal system. Oh, and realistically it will probably also result in a general population spike of STIs for a few years.

Male birth control will not negate the repercussions of bad behavior or free men from sexual responsibility. Much like female birth control did not free women. It changed the terms of their bondage.

It's not even going to do that, for men.
 

TrollfaceDeux

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i would burn that house down with ex wife in it. my kids and I shall watch its glory blaze in full delight.

I really don't think it will. For the men who actually care enough there is already effective birth control: Don't fuck random chicks and when you're fucking a not-random not-skank be aware (and mentally prepared for the eventuality) that she might get praegnant.
dumb whores still fuck and carry fetus to full terms. only effective measure of retaliation is legal reform. more accessible clinics to abortion earlier + potentially free pass for men who fucked them = rapid decrease in unwanted child.
 

Tuco

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Seriously though male bc will change the world. Number of unwanted children will plummet among the middle-upper class (poor ppl will still have more babies than shits they take) and the sad guy who just gets taken to the cleaner and rarely allowed to see his kid because males have no power in the legal system with children...all because he trusted a girl, that will be a thing of the past.

Have to pay out the ass for child support
No say in whether to keep baby or abort
No power to determine where you live or time you get to spend with your kid.

Its a sad world for single men with kids right now.
I see this all the time but I don't know if I trust men to take them if they are as rigorous as female BC (though all the reports I've seen of in-testing versions show that they're much easier to take).

It'd also weaken a man's position to avoid responsibility of a kid because unprotected sex without that BC is an implicit desire to create a kid.
 

TrollfaceDeux

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It'd also weaken a man's position to avoid responsibility of a kid because unprotected sex without that BC is an implicit desire to create a kid.
Law is already set in such a way that they cannot avoid it anyways. Male BC would also raise questions about female BC itself. It isn't as if female BC heightens their responsibility towards their biological children. Or it isn't as if lack of male BC lowers their responsibility towards their biological children.

For instance, safe haven laws guarantee certain rights to women to give up their biological children. Did we diminish it's existence because of female BC?

I mean...does lack of condom display a man's implicit desire to create children?
 

Tuco

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I mean...does lack of condom display a man's implicit desire to create children?
No because everyone knows condoms suck.

It's all about:
1. How much does it cost.
2. How easy is it to get.
3. How easy is it to take correctly.
4. What kind of side effects does it have?

Female BC is pretty cheap (If it's subsidized) and widely available but having to take it at the same time every day is reasonably difficult. Plus it has some serious side effects.
 

Swagdaddy

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I'd say 75% of the men I know who owe child support flat out don't pay it. Including my own father as I grew up.

Just thought I'd throw that into this pity party.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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I'd say 75% of the men I know who owe child support flat out don't pay it. Including my own father as I grew up.

Just thought I'd throw that into this pity party.
How do they avoid jail? Also, not sure how it works in other states, but here in Texas the government directly takes your child support from your paycheck-- you don't even have the option of writing your ex a check.