Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Frenzied Wombat

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Wait, you guys talk about specific restaurants rather than what type of food you're in the mood for? I've never had a conversation like that and I never suggest specific restaurants. Always a certain kind of dining experience (Italian, Asian, American Bistro, etc). By the way I love using "American Bistro" when I first meet a woman as a suggestion. Throws em for a loop.
No, I force her to pick a cuisine and I pick the restaurant and the discussion ends there. If I ask specifically where she wants to eat, usually the answer is "I don't know" or "you choose". Instead, she says "Italian" and I say "ok, then we're eating at La Dolce". End of discussion.

I've asked women about this annoying passive aggressive "I want you to choose yet I'll shoot everything down and/or sulk at your choice" and it's basically a conflict between innate traditional desires for you to "take charge" and modern empowerment that drives her to want to control the situation and have theoptionto choose herself. The frustration we feel is basically the manifestation of these two incompatible needs.
 

Kaige

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I can't imagine going through the "whatever you want to eat" dinner guilt-trip thing on a regular basis like you married guys do. The last girl I had that pulled it on me got a ride through the Taco Bell drive-thru.

If I'm home, its typically an hour of waiting for an answer before I usually fix myself a sandwich. I actually got my ass reamed once for opening a can of Spaghettio's lol. What a cunt.
 

lurkingdirk

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Fuck that noise. If a restaurant decision takes more than about 2 minutes, we're staying in. Neither my wife or I will do that to anyone else. If someone asks you where you want to eat, have a solid decision or defer to the other person. Same goes with the kids. If we ask where the kids want to eat and one of the kids comes up with a strong opinion while the other just bleat shit like, "no, not there." Too damned bad. The strong opinion beats the waffling every time. Don't like it? have a strong opinion of your own, or eat at home.
 

Dandai

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I was actually going to ask on a serious note if Noodlewife might not have a touch of postpartum depression...
It's possible, though difficult to say definitively since we're only hearing Noodle's side of things. My wife was definitely depressed after our first child. I had to make her leave the house and see people/make friends besides me. This helped her out of her funk. She was too busy chasing the first child to get depressed when the second one came.
 

Kaige

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My mom said she was grateful she had to go to the laundromat when we were young, it forced her out to meet other mothers.


Fuck that noise. If a restaurant decision takes more than about 2 minutes, we're staying in. Neither my wife or I will do that to anyone else. If someone asks you where you want to eat, have a solid decision or defer to the other person. Same goes with the kids. If we ask where the kids want to eat and one of the kids comes up with a strong opinion while the other just bleat shit like, "no, not there." Too damned bad. The strong opinion beats the waffling every time. Don't like it? have a strong opinion of your own, or eat at home.
That always been the case with her? I can imagine kids help put the pressure on. Haha
 

Noodleface

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I don't know if she has postpartum depression, she does work 3 nights a week with some human contact. I also encourage her to meet up with friends - she has a book club once a month, sees a couple friends during the month, loves to go to her parents house. Unfortunately, I dislike all of her friends and most of her family yet she drags me and the kid along - i'd actually prefer she went out by herself so she wasn't always caring for the baby.

One of her friends is pretty fit with great titties so I can't help myself from staring, so I get a little uncomfortable.
 

Sloshed

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I can tell you guys first hand that the mess thing is not going to get fixed. I have been fighting that issue for years with my wife to no avail. I've been married for 17 years with 3 kids and have been trying to gut it out for the kids sake but I am beyond my maximum jimmy rustledge. I've bitched and moaned and complained about the mess and nothing changes. I went so far as to make a list of all the cleaning duties that I thought needed handled every week. I then asked my wife to place a time amount that it takes to do each individual chore. I then split them 50/50 and let her pick out the ones she wanted to do. After 3 weeks I said to hell with it because only my chores got done. So if there is a mess now that you can't stand it will not get better. I'm currently planning my own exit strategy now.
 

Noodleface

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I've given thought to the list idea as well - at least for my own personal cleaning. I find if I have a list I tend to want to finish it (call it OCD), whereas if there's no list and some cleaning task just looming over my head I'll often put it off.

Then again I'm not really messy. I even toss my wife a towel after I bust in her.
 

iannis

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I meant also that you give her 2-3 rooms. Instead of "all the things" it becomes "just these things" and that should be managable.
 

Izo

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I can tell you guys first hand that the mess thing is not going to get fixed. I have been fighting that issue for years with my wife to no avail. I've been married for 17 years with 3 kids and have been trying to gut it out for the kids sake but I am beyond my maximum jimmy rustledge. I've bitched and moaned and complained about the mess and nothing changes. I went so far as to make a list of all the cleaning duties that I thought needed handled every week. I then asked my wife to place a time amount that it takes to do each individual chore. I then split them 50/50 and let her pick out the ones she wanted to do. After 3 weeks I said to hell with it because only my chores got done. So if there is a mess now that you can't stand it will not get better. I'm currently planning my own exit strategy now.
Hire a maid. Bang the maid. It'll be messy. But you wont have to clean it up.