Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Caeden

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From earlier: mish = missionary.

I claim seananigans against anyone that swears they've never done the "oops, in raw" the first time with a new person at least once.

Hell, I know of two times when I was in sound, sober mind when the girl was just so hot I couldn't resist. I survived with a clean bill of health, but one of those skanks did worry me.

We're working on the BJ stuff. She has a fairly small mouth we've noticed. I'm not packing serious heat with my Caucasian 6.5, but she's struggling with that and I think I need just a little deeper stimulation on the shaft to get there.

Best BJ ever was from either that batshit crazy secretary with the cuck husband or a physical therapist I dated after her. Also, I'll readily admit third best was from a hambeast. Was out drunk with a buddy right after my divorce and dove on a grenade so he could nail this chick he'd been working on from his gym. Even drunk I knew better than to put it in her pussy. Goddamn did she suck like my dick was butter coated chocolate ice cream. She wasn't Reagan Chastain big but she was definitely in AA minors.
 

Cad

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Depending on whether you believe you will get a chick pregnant from pre-jizz (or if you even have pre-jizz) and how strong your pull-out game is, what are you risking by going bare anyways with normal white-bread white chicks? HIV rate is like .01% and female-to-male transmission if you're doing vaginal is like 1 in 1400 or something absurd. Condoms don't protect against the herp and the bacterial ones are curable with literally 1 pill as long as you get tested.

Disclaimer: Married for a long time and don't need to worry about first-date hookups, but just looking at the stats, whats the big deal? If you're relying on condoms for birth control you're stupid and should pull out anyway even if you are wearing one.
 

Khane

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Depending on whether you believe you will get a chick pregnant from pre-jizz (or if you even have pre-jizz) and how strong your pull-out game is, what are you risking by going bare anyways with normal white-bread white chicks? HIV rate is like .01% and female-to-male transmission if you're doing vaginal is like 1 in 1400 or something absurd. Condoms don't protect against the herp and the bacterial ones are curable with literally 1 pill as long as you get tested.

Disclaimer: Married for a long time and don't need to worry about first-date hookups, but just looking at the stats, whats the big deal? If you're relying on condoms for birth control you're stupid and should pull out anyway even if you are wearing one.
Who cares how low the chance is. It's stupid.

You can catch something that you have to live the rest of your life with AND have to be up front about before engaging in any sexual activity in the future.
 

Cad

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Who cares how low the chance is. It's stupid.
Well, do you drive cars? Low chance of death there too. Everything in life is about managing risk. If you're banging normal suburban white girls HIV is about the least of your concerns.

Heterosexual risk of HIV-1 infection per sexual-act: systematic review and meta-analysis of observational studies, Boily et al., The Lancet (2009) | The Center for HIV Law and Policy

The authors found that, overall, female-to-male (.04% per act or, in theory, about 4 cases of HIV transmission per every 10,000 acts of vaginal sex with a woman who is HIV positive) and male-to-female (.08% per act or 8 cases of HIV transmission per every 10,000 acts of vaginal sex with a man who is HIV positive) transmission estimates in high-income countries show a low risk of infection even when the person with HIV is not on antiretroviral treatments.
If they are on antiretroviral treatments and their viral load is very low the chances are probably zero or so close so as to not matter.
 

Khane

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Well, do you drive cars? Low chance of death there too. Everything in life is about managing risk. If you're banging normal suburban white girls HIV is about the least of your concerns.
Come on... comparing a necessary function of life to not wearing a simple latex glove around your dick?

The only reason not to is because it doesn't feel quite as good.
 

Cad

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Come on... comparing a necessary function of life to not wearing a simple latex glove around your dick?

The only reason not to is because it doesn't feel quite as good.
And it just takes a little longer to ride a bus which is significantly safer. Why don't you do that?

I mean come on. Both are marginally higher risks for some benefit.
 

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Carrying a condom around in your wallet is childish and kinda creepy. And I wouldn't trust a condom that's been in my wallet for longer than probably a day anyway.
So put one in your pocket before leaving for the TINDER hookup?

I only mentioned wallet in case someone was super forgetful. Not the "I never know when I'll hookup!" reason.
 

Fifey

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I'm far more worried about a child than I am hiv. Usually girls I'll go raw with we have had an abortion talk before.
 

Khane

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Sounds to me like Cad is playing devil's advocate. I'm just not sure why. You gonna tell your kids to just raw dog it cuz condoms are useless anyway bro?

Also, how is riding a bus safer than driving your own car? Because there's 15 people who can break your fall when you smash into each other because there are no seat belts?
 

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Herpes => Child ================> HIV

I'd worry about things in that order if raw-dogging tinder-nurses.

*edit: Also, if you keep your wallet in your back pocket I would not trust a condom coming out of there.
 

Alex

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One time on a business trip I got denied sex because I didn't have a condom on me. It was devastating. I now always have one in my laptop bag.
 

Cad

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Sounds to me like Cad is playing devil's advocate. I'm just not sure why. You gonna tell your kids to just raw dog it cuz condoms are useless anyway bro?

Also, how is riding a bus safer than driving your own car? Because there's 15 people who can break your fall when you smash into each other because there are no seat belts?
I'm not saying don't use condoms, by all means use them and enjoy. Just saying not using one isn't the end of the world. Don't nut inside.
 

Caeden

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Maybe I'm the pro-bono j49?!

That nurse I banged in a national park...we had condoms and were so worked up we didn't bother. I felt bad because she did have to take a bunch of morning after pills and they're fairly upsetting to the stomach. She got on the ol' bc soon after.

I wrapped it with a social worker I met running at the local park. Good thing too. She was on probation for prescription pill addiction or something. Druggie ho. I didn't bother with the former ballerina with the lasered vagina because I'm a dirty man whore. I did have presence of mind to splash her belly. (And face once) Didnt wrap with the physical therapist, secretary, farmer,....I'm shooting 50/50. I feel bad slightly, but I'm clean so fuck it.
 

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I will say, the last few years I've gone condomless and it is the greatest thing ever

I had to wear one after our first child because we weren't quite sure about having a second yet and it was the worst thing ever. Would've rather had AIDS
 

Caeden

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Bullshit. Soon as we got married I threw our condoms in the trash. We were hardly using them. I don't give a fuck if she has ten kids, once the ring is on the condom is off.

Put her on the nuvaring. We use it and she has zero side effects. We are discussing me getting snipped since we kinda like the no-kids life. I can feel the ring sometimes but you can pull it out for a bit to play.
 

Caeden

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My wife's best friend has beaten her beta husband into submission. He has had unprotected sex with her around 20-30 times in 10 years of marriage. Those were to make their two brats. He is constantly badgered openly (or made fun of by her depending on the view) about how little action he gets. It disgusts us to see two people in such a passionless marriage. He's terrified of her and is afraid to ask for more. Is scared to even parent his own kids without her patting his head. She's a fat, fat, fat bitch so this isn't some dumb redpill AWALT. He and I rode together with his kid once and he was scared his wife had the fucking car bugged.

He is kind of a loser though for various reasons.

It could always be worse my friends.