Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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I thought it was spanish sounding names in the Philippines.
Nah, filipinos name their kids things like "Hearty", "Glory", and "America". Those are 3 Filipinas I have actually known. I even saw all of their IDs because I thought they were nicknames.

Here's a list of the top 100 Filipino names. The vast majority look like normal english names to me.

http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/p....php3?Pays=PHL
 

Tenks

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Do maids actually pick up all the clutter and shit? How would they know where to put it?
 

Noodleface

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That's another part of it Tenks. My problem isn't stuff like dishes (well, you know what I mean) getting cleaned, or bathrooms or whatever, but she's cluttering the fuck out of the place.

Look at my desk in my office, no maid is going to pick that up.
 

chthonic-anemos

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Buy her a maid outfit and tell her that you want to roleplay. When she gets dressed up and rdy tell her to clean while you watch and jerk off. If she isn't cooperative then smack her around while threatening to call immigration.
 

moonarchia

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Fuck I wrote a long post and the Internet ate it. Fact of the matter is I don't want to hire someone to do what my wife should be doing. I'm not j49.
You're thinking about it wrong. It's not a matter of it being something she *should* be doing, it's something she's *not* doing, and you are unable to convince her to. You have to decide whether it's important to you or not. If it it, either you do it or hire a maid. If you hire a maid, take it out of her spending money. No need to be angry or any of that. Just lay it out straight, either you do it or you hire someone to do it, and move on.
 

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We had a maid for six months. You need to have your house clean just once for them to see how it should be on the initial walk through. They then know where things go in general. If they don't know where it goes they just clean in, on, or around it and maybe put it somewhere logical nearby.

A maid might not be what you want but it might be a midpoint to get you there.
 

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I understand u want your wife to do it, but, noodle, if you can afford a it, do it as a one time thing. Your happiness is worth more than the cost for a one time clean. If you need help noddlebro ill send you some $$ out of my seven figures residuals.
 

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I don't think Noodle wants to bandaid the problem, he wants to fix his wife's attitude. Which is admirable but might be impossible.
 

Lejina

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Yeah that women is broken and would need a serious wake up call to change.

Also, don't bring a second kid into this jfc.
 

Noodleface

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I don't think Noodle wants to bandaid the problem, he wants to fix his wife's attitude. Which is admirable but might be impossible.
Pretty much. I'm hoping now that I've taken charge at least I can get the house to a manageable level and then keep it there. I guess right now it's really overwhelming because of what she did to the office and now surrounding rooms.
 

a_skeleton_03

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I don't think Noodle wants to bandaid the problem, he wants to fix his wife's attitude. Which is admirable but might be impossible.
Pretty much. I'm hoping now that I've taken charge at least I can get the house to a manageable level and then keep it there. I guess right now it's really overwhelming because of what she did to the office and now surrounding rooms.
Right, you use the maid to stop gap the solution and show her that it doesn't take much just once a week as long as you maintain a tiny bit of cleanliness.
 

Tenks

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Pretty much. I'm hoping now that I've taken charge at least I can get the house to a manageable level and then keep it there. I guess right now it's really overwhelming because of what she did to the office and now surrounding rooms.
It may just have to be a flaw you need to understand and manage yourself. Like I said my wife sucks at putting shit away. There were Christmas bags on the kitchen table (we don't use it for anything other than putting shit on we never eat there) that I knew would never be picked up until late March if I didn't just do it. But it also freaked me out to look at them every day. So I just put them away. Was it her job to do it? Yeah. But was I going to go to war over something that took me 5 minutes to fix? Nope. Anymore if something is out of place and I don't like looking at it I just fix it. I have abandoned trying to make her do it because "Its her job" and I just do it myself. It takes less effort honestly for me to just fix the mess than it would be to convince her to do it herself.

She also does the whole freakout when I clean up. Mainly because I throw shit away. If it isn't serving a purpose it gets thrown away. But I think she's starting to realize things that are actually important need a place because if I get in a cleaning mood half our house goes in the trash can.
 

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The fact that this was present during all phases of Noodle's relationship with her doesn't bode well for her changing. It's either going to be something you need to deal with or a deal breaker. You mentioned it was always like this, but with a smaller apartment, it was easier to manage. Now that it's not easier to manage, it's not exactly likely she's going to suddenly stop being how she was and take on the even bigger task of a house being clean(vs the apartment).

People don't change in my experience. I've always been super-critical about flaws early in my relationships, often dooming them before even giving them a chance to start. I sometimes have regrets over those lost relationships, but when I read stories like the ones in this thread, I feel pretty vindicated about the choices I've made. I also feel extremely fortunate to be with a girl who obsessively cleans vs the opposite.
 

iannis

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wow. I thought I was a slob.

I know Iama slob. But those pics there... that really is some next level shit.
 

Noodleface

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It may just have to be a flaw you need to understand and manage yourself. Like I said my wife sucks at putting shit away. There were Christmas bags on the kitchen table (we don't use it for anything other than putting shit on we never eat there) that I knew would never be picked up until late March if I didn't just do it. But it also freaked me out to look at them every day. So I just put them away. Was it her job to do it? Yeah. But was I going to go to war over something that took me 5 minutes to fix? Nope. Anymore if something is out of place and I don't like looking at it I just fix it. I have abandoned trying to make her do it because "Its her job" and I just do it myself. It takes less effort honestly for me to just fix the mess than it would be to convince her to do it herself.

She also does the whole freakout when I clean up. Mainly because I throw shit away. If it isn't serving a purpose it gets thrown away. But I think she's starting to realize things that are actually important need a place because if I get in a cleaning mood half our house goes in the trash can.
I think I have multiple-personality disorder and we are the same person
 

Noodleface

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Its only because I had a manager that said if he sees java listed on a resume he dumps it into the trash

My wife loves to dump bags of shit onto the kitchen table. We don't really use it except for game nights but I just don't understand it.
 

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Okay, at some point you have to make her realise that you don't respect her. She's not living like an adult human being. You have as many rights as she does, and you're acting like an adult. Tell her she is failing at life, and it's hard for you to imagine a failed human raising your child.

Harsh? Yeah. She deserves it. She's not going to change without a really serious shake up.

Can you put a lock on your office door? Get it clean and pristine, lock it, live your life in there except for when you're spending time with your kid. Simply don't let her in.

Harsh? Yeah. She deserves it.