Sterling
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yeah that Xmen run was what really sucked me into comics as a kid. So good.
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Chukzombi
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wasnt the Infinity war thing from the 60s era comics? now they are doing stuff from a few years ago. why go from Marvel comics classic era content to marvel comics disney woke era content though? was infinity war the only successful thing about Marvel from then to now?
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The Infinity Gauntlet - Wikipedia
90's, unless you are referring to something else. Everything related after that mini-series sucked ass, but I highly rec The Infinity Gauntlet to anyone and everyone - was legit good.
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Chukzombi
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i was probably thinking of galactus or something. still you would think in all the decades and generations of marvel comics fans, they could come up with something better than american chavez and genderswap clown world.The Infinity Gauntlet - Wikipedia
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90's, unless you are referring to something else. Everything related after that mini-series sucked ass, but I highly rec The Infinity Gauntlet to anyone and everyone - was legit good.
Yeah, I've been meaning to grab the big omnibus for a bit now. I feel like I saw a cool leather bound version once that I've tried finding but maybe I was drunk.The Infinity Gauntlet - Wikipedia
90's, unless you are referring to something else. Everything related after that mini-series sucked ass, but I highly rec The Infinity Gauntlet to anyone and everyone - was legit good.
Phazael
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Everything all encompassing from Marvel post Infinity Guantlet was just, well, weird. Secret Wars was some seriously convoluted material that frankly would just not grab anyone's attention because most of the villains in it have not been developed well by Marvel, especially Doom. Honestly, they need to work on their Villians and get Doom into the mix, maybe as a way to bridge towards a Galactus storyline. The well for anything else directly from the comic books has been largely tapped at this point, with them injecting small story elements into past projects (especially Civil War and World War Hulk) so they cannot fall back on them. They basically have Secret Wars (meh) and Galactus, which would at least get the FF4 into the mix.
But to get down that path they need to do Doom. And by that, get a really fucking amazing actor they have not used already who can carry a decades worth of movies and be the kind of relatable Villain IW Thanos was for that span. And it has to be someone willing to wear a mask for most of the entire run with a voice that just plain oozes bad ass in command. The issue I see is a lot of the actors who COULD be that man are either too old (Oldman, Malcom MacDowel, Ralph Finnes) or have already turned up as other characters in the MCU or associated Marvel movies (Carl Urban, Michael Fassbender, Andy Sirkis).... or are too batshit to rely on for ten years.
If I were in charge, I would build a series of movies around Doom as the core and open the checkbook the way they did for RDJ, building him as a villain behind other villains and ending the whole thing with him being an antihero at a final showdown with Galactus. Some guys I would contemplate as Doom would be:
Tom Hardy- Good actor and can pull off the menace and physicality.
Jude Law- Great actor and drama free.
Mark Strong- The easy choice, but god damn he would be perfect.
Jason Isaacs- Not the biggest name these days, but he has the range and ability to nail the character.
Tom Ellis- My top choice. Dude us really good, still relatively young, and loves his work. You could do some quality flashback scenes with a young Reed and him.
TLDR- Marvel needs to focus on its villains to world build right now.
But to get down that path they need to do Doom. And by that, get a really fucking amazing actor they have not used already who can carry a decades worth of movies and be the kind of relatable Villain IW Thanos was for that span. And it has to be someone willing to wear a mask for most of the entire run with a voice that just plain oozes bad ass in command. The issue I see is a lot of the actors who COULD be that man are either too old (Oldman, Malcom MacDowel, Ralph Finnes) or have already turned up as other characters in the MCU or associated Marvel movies (Carl Urban, Michael Fassbender, Andy Sirkis).... or are too batshit to rely on for ten years.
If I were in charge, I would build a series of movies around Doom as the core and open the checkbook the way they did for RDJ, building him as a villain behind other villains and ending the whole thing with him being an antihero at a final showdown with Galactus. Some guys I would contemplate as Doom would be:
Tom Hardy- Good actor and can pull off the menace and physicality.
Jude Law- Great actor and drama free.
Mark Strong- The easy choice, but god damn he would be perfect.
Jason Isaacs- Not the biggest name these days, but he has the range and ability to nail the character.
Tom Ellis- My top choice. Dude us really good, still relatively young, and loves his work. You could do some quality flashback scenes with a young Reed and him.
TLDR- Marvel needs to focus on its villains to world build right now.
Chukzombi
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Isnt Galactus just a bigger version of Thanos? i can see why they dont go there. maybe instead of busting into another long storyline they could just work on crossovers with other properties like the xmen or spiderman villains until they come up with something better than genderswap everyone.
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Galactus eats planets, killing the population in the process. He, like Doctor Doom, probably won't be introduced until the Fantastic Four makes it to screen. The main big bads that look to be coming are Kang the Conquerer and The High Evolutionary (supposedly in GotG 3). Kang seems like he's the next one, especially with the Young Avengers talk and shit going on atm.
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Phazael
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Chukzombi
He is, but I think a good long Doom arc ending in him helping against Galactus would make a good series of stories (and more or less has happened in the classic comic books). Making Doom the central figure would keep things more grounded and also let them address the biggest flaw of the Marvel movies, a lack of fleshed out Villains. There is not much point in crossovers without credible threats. And you cant really go up from the threat of Thanos without some really ridiculous DC Comics type shit, but the idea of Doom acting as an organizing mastermind would (with the right writing team) be interesting and viable for small teamups. It more or less has been done in various ways in the comic books. Plus Doom is one of the few Marvel villains people universally recognize and who has crossed paths with all the major Marvel heroes at one time or another. I mean, I know its 2099 storyline, but the whole Doom for President thing would be awesome if they did it well. But we will probably get a wokefest Secretwars jerkoff from the sounds of it.
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Its more than simple ignorance. For many of them its against their religion to allow profits to motivate their actions. I wish I was joking, but if you ever look at videos of Marvel's head of creative (An Indian woman I forget the name of)--she talks about how companies can't be just about profit, that there is a moral imperative to "be better".
Profit is capitalism and capitalism is evil.
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Chris
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Meanwhile their employees are on super low wages because there's no money to pay them with.
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‘Moon Knight’: Oscar Isaac Tapped To Star In Marvel And Disney+ Series
With his time in the Star Wars franchise coming to an end, Oscar Isaac sets his sights on the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Deadline is hearing he is in negotiations to star as the title character in …
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Phazael
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To get to this point you have to have well defined villains. Thanos was reasonably well defined within but not before the IW movies. Loki, who is not really a big part of the comic SW, is well defined. Vulture is the next most well defined villain they have at this point. Could they pull off SW in movie form? Maybe, but it would take a ton of world building to get to the point where that scene has the same impact it had in the comic books. The best comic book movies and stories have always been driven by well constructed antagonists and this is the one area Marvel has struggled with (and the new DC movie universe has massively failed at) for the most part. They have essentially killed off the couple that were well acted and fleshed out, with the exception of Vulture and maybe Loki.
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I'm a big Moon Knight fan, and have no problem with that casting.‘Moon Knight’: Oscar Isaac Tapped To Star In Marvel And Disney+ Series
With his time in the Star Wars franchise coming to an end, Oscar Isaac sets his sights on the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Deadline is hearing he is in negotiations to star as the title character in …
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meStevo
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I feel we're a couple complete phases away from being able to pull off Secret Wars. I expect some form of Secret Invasion and an entire phase spinning up and establishing mutants, the Fantastic Four (and a threat tying them together with established heroes like Galactus or some Negative Zone shenanigans), Adam Warlock and other cosmic stuff with the Guardians... and then we'll get Secret Wars, and I expect even that to just be an amalgam of Secret Wars / Infinity War/Crusade stories from the comics.
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Will Marvel have the balls to do another 10 year plan laying out the Secret Wars story like they did the IW / EG story?
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