Djay
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NFL 2014 Off-Season Thread
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I still think Bridgewater is the best QB in the class by a wide margin. I can't believe how far he's fallen since his, admittedly awful, pro day. His tape is excellent pretty much across the board. The draft "experts" that have him sliding to the 2nd or 3rd are of their rockers, unless the entire league has talked themselves out of a solid pick. I don't see him making it out of the first round. If nothing else if he's there at 24, I think the Bengals think long and hard about it.
Bortles has the highest ceiling, and he's not that far from being ready. Higher risk than Bridgewater but potentially higher payoff. He's got everything scouts like, but I think he's a crapshoot.
JFF is... gonna be fun to watch? He's certainly as they say electrifying, but damn the guy has some serious mechanical problems. I dunno.
I've not seen enough of Carr to form an opinion.
I think the rest of the class is pretty shit, but teams are going to like certain projects. I like Boyd.
Bortles has the highest ceiling, and he's not that far from being ready. Higher risk than Bridgewater but potentially higher payoff. He's got everything scouts like, but I think he's a crapshoot.
JFF is... gonna be fun to watch? He's certainly as they say electrifying, but damn the guy has some serious mechanical problems. I dunno.
I've not seen enough of Carr to form an opinion.
I think the rest of the class is pretty shit, but teams are going to like certain projects. I like Boyd.
Ameraves
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I think JFF is going to end up being a bust. Yeah the guy was electrifying in college, but the pros are a bit faster than college, and I don't think he is going to be able to pull out the heroics in the same way. Plus don't forget he was throwing up some prayers that would be pulled down by another top 15 pick in Mike Evans.
I really hope I am wrong about it though, because it was fun as shit to watch him play the way he does.
I really hope I am wrong about it though, because it was fun as shit to watch him play the way he does.
Burnem Wizfyre
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Talking about drafting SB winning QB's which San Diego is good at, hell half of the QB's they have drafted in the last 13 years have won a SB, for other teams.
He's gonna be able to scramble in the NFL, but his decision making after the scramble is abysmal. I wouldn't be surprised if he lights it up year one and then falls off a cliff as defenses get a year of tape on him.
I just hope an elite CB is still on the board when the Bengals pick. I'm not married too heavily to any individual but I like Dennard the best. Then I'm hoping Hyde somehow slips into the third. I doubt he'll stay there for our third round pick so I wouldn't mind spending possibly our 3rd + 4th to move up and take him. For the second round I'd like OL.
If no elite CB are on the board and Bridgewater has slipped to us I would first like to try and trade out for the other team's 2nd and 3rd (depending on locations) and if we can't get that then draft the dude. Let Dalton and his "I can't win big games but I want elite QB money" attitude walk.
If no elite CB are on the board and Bridgewater has slipped to us I would first like to try and trade out for the other team's 2nd and 3rd (depending on locations) and if we can't get that then draft the dude. Let Dalton and his "I can't win big games but I want elite QB money" attitude walk.
There's no way a top CB isn't on the board when the Bengals pick because it's such a deep class. It just depends on whether the Bengals like the guys still there and what their big board looks like. I think if they've got a guy significantly higher on their board than the rest of their options then they'll take him regardless of position.
It's crazy how good the CB class is. I think there are guys going in rounds 5-7 that have a lot more upside than you typically see in CBs that late.
It's crazy how good the CB class is. I think there are guys going in rounds 5-7 that have a lot more upside than you typically see in CBs that late.
I've heard the same about late round WR this class. I wouldn't even be completely opposed to taking Shazier with our first round pick. I'd shore up some areas of need in the low rounds (LB, OL, DB) and then take some depth in the later rounds of WR, more defensive back and more line.
Alex
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We need to draft a center that will be NFL ready this season. Kyle Cook is gone and we have no replacement unless we shuffle the OL even more than we did this past season. Beyond that, I'm sure we'll draft well. Our drafting has been consistently good to great the past four years.
Hue Jackson needs to not waste a first round pick like I felt Eifert was at times last year.
Hue Jackson needs to not waste a first round pick like I felt Eifert was at times last year.
Gilgamel
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I want Donald at 11, a corner, and a developmental QB to give me false hope while Locker kills people with errant passes/injures himself again. Also a kicker. If we could draft a fat runningback or that Dre Archer who ran a 4.26 that would be swell too.
The road to 8-8 demands it!
Also, this article is fascinating:
2014 NFL draft: Baltimore Ravens' formula for compensatory picks | The MMQB with Peter King
If I'm in the NFLPA I'm looking at that going "wait, smart teams deliberately let vets leave to get compensatory picks which depress wages around the league?". Listening to that article it's hard to argue against. You get a guy at his healthiest, his most driven, and his cheapest in exchange for losing a guy who may be somewhat established but is prohibitively more expensive and has less tread on his tires. It makes the teams who splurge on free agency look even dumber than before.
The road to 8-8 demands it!
Also, this article is fascinating:
2014 NFL draft: Baltimore Ravens' formula for compensatory picks | The MMQB with Peter King
If I'm in the NFLPA I'm looking at that going "wait, smart teams deliberately let vets leave to get compensatory picks which depress wages around the league?". Listening to that article it's hard to argue against. You get a guy at his healthiest, his most driven, and his cheapest in exchange for losing a guy who may be somewhat established but is prohibitively more expensive and has less tread on his tires. It makes the teams who splurge on free agency look even dumber than before.
moontayle
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I'm trying to remember the last time an FA acquisition was the last piece prior to a successful Super Bowl run. I mean, it's hard to argue that Charles Haley wasn't that key piece for the Cowboys in the early 90s but I haven't paid enough attention to determine if it's made a difference since then.
opiate82
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There is a salary cap which includes a salary floor for every team. Are certain position groups getting hit hard with the influx of cheap labor? Sure. But that player wealth is just being redistributed elsewhere, it isn't just flowing into owners pockets instead.
opiate82
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I mean, unless by "successful Super Bowl run" means actually winning it... Seattle had a couple of key FA signing that really sured up their pass rush last year.
Gankak
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Michael Bennet immediately comes to mind. Our defense was good before we signed him... but I am not sure we do as well in the playoffs last year without him
I mean, unless by "successful Super Bowl run" means actually winning it... Seattle had a couple of key FA signing that really sured up their pass rush last year.
opiate82
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Yup, that Atlanta game two years ago goes the other way with any semblance of a pass rush.
moontayle
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Like I said, it's not really something I see talked about a lot so I wasn't sure. And yes, I would classify "successful" as winning the Super Bowl. You can certainly still see more success from an FA pickup, TO and Philly come to mind, as does Manning and Denver, but there's few guys that would qualify as "the missing piece". It appears Bennett was one of those guys, so good for him.
