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Dabamf_sl

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A missile isn't a threat until they can put a nuke on it. Even if an interception failed, how many people could one or even a few missiles kill? Compare that to a barrage of Seoul, which would kill thousands. If they're attacking someone, I'd rather it be us. The total damage would be less because we would outright obliterate them right afterwards either way. Of course they could always do both at once.

I recognize that I have a bond to Korea, so have equal desire to see them unharmed as Americans.
 

Jozu

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The thing is, if shit were to go down, we dont even need to go all nuclear and shit. I know its probably unlikely given today's nature and the ability to deploy nuclear weapons is much more efficient, but simply using multiple bombers to drop HE payloads on targets is just as devastating. Tokyo firebombing is believed to have killed 100,000 plus people (more than both nuclear bombs) and destroyed the living space of 1.5 million. Yeah a lot of that was wood buildings and we were using incendiaries but given the advance in technology we could pinpoint targets as well as do dry bombing runs and straight decimate Pyongyang without ever firing a nuclear weapon.

Again, given the climate of the current times its unlikely such a conflict wouldnt manifest nuclear weapon use, but its not a must. It all depends on what happens obviously, but say NK lobs a few missles at Seoul and kills scores of people, w would probably retaliate along with SK and Pyongyang is due for a nice "sea of fire" itself.

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Adebisi

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Nk fires their shit missiles at Washington... They miss and hit Toronto. Fml
 

Araxen

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U.S. amassing B-1 strategic bombers near North Korea

It seems like Washington has taken Kim Jong Un threat seriously.

After moving two Langley's F-22 Raptor stealth fighters to Osan airbase, in South Korea, launching a B-2 Spirit stealth bomber on a round-trip training mission over a South Korean's gunnery range from the Continental U.S., and deploying THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system to Guam, positioning two guided-missile destroyers in the waters near the Korean peninsula, the Pentagon has decided to strengthen its presence in the region by deploying several B-1 Lancer long range bombers to Andersen Air Force Base, Guam.

But, for the first time in the last few weeks, the deployment of the "Bones" to the Pacific atoll was not made public (at least, not yet), a fact that could be the sign that the U.S. is not only making symbolic moves (as the above mentioned ones), but it is preparing for the worst scenario: an attack on North Korea.
 
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A missile isn't a threat until they can put a nuke on it. Even if an interception failed, how many people could one or even a few missiles kill? Compare that to a barrage of Seoul, which would kill thousands. If they're attacking someone, I'd rather it be us. The total damage would be less because we would outright obliterate them right afterwards either way. Of course they could always do both at once.

I recognize that I have a bond to Korea, so have equal desire to see them unharmed as Americans.
I agree that it is unlikely for NK to launch missiles at anybody. I think this is Kim Jong Un's way of starting a dialogue with the US and Japan. I imagine in a few weeks or a month there will be "talks"


I just didn't want people to get the false impression that we are safe behind this missile shield.
 

Neki

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One thing that is sure though. North Korea cannot carry on with it's uranium enrichment programme which they recently restarted (maybe their aim all along?). Consider a NK which has perfected nuclear tipped ICBMs technology and has multiple scores of them ready to use. NK would sure be decimated in a war but not without taking out half of the world with them.
 

Chanur

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What message does it send Iran if NK is allowed to openly threaten to nuke people? I would have bombers lighting up their nuke plant if I was king of the world.
 

Tuco

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The thing is, if shit were to go down, we dont even need to go all nuclear and shit. I know its probably unlikely given today's nature and the ability to deploy nuclear weapons is much more efficient, but simply using multiple bombers to drop HE payloads on targets is just as devastating. Tokyo firebombing is believed to have killed 100,000 plus people (more than both nuclear bombs) and destroyed the living space of 1.5 million. Yeah a lot of that was wood buildings and we were using incendiaries but given the advance in technology we could pinpoint targets as well as do dry bombing runs and straight decimate Pyongyang without ever firing a nuclear weapon.

Again, given the climate of the current times its unlikely such a conflict wouldnt manifest nuclear weapon use, but its not a must. It all depends on what happens obviously, but say NK lobs a few missles at Seoul and kills scores of people, w would probably retaliate along with SK and Pyongyang is due for a nice "sea of fire" itself.
Yeah I agree. Even if NK were to nuke LA (Worst case scenario) I'd prefer we used conventional weapons in retaliation.
 

Running Dog_sl

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Yeah I agree. Even if NK were to nuke LA (Worst case scenario) I'd prefer we used conventional weapons in retaliation.
Sadly, and it's a horrifying thought, I think the principle of deterrence would mean a nuke for a nuke. And continuing on the grim theme, doesn't NK have chemical and biological warheads for their missiles? They might not be able to drop a nuke on a target (yet) but a chemical (or biological) attack should be within their capability, and chemical weapons have been used more recently than nukes. Saddam got away with it for years...
 

Haast

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Yeah I agree. Even if NK were to nuke LA (Worst case scenario) I'd prefer we used conventional weapons in retaliation.
I think we would owe them a favor if they nuked LA, na'mean?

Tell them to center it up on the Kardashian mansion.
 

Skanda

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If they nuked LA then Starcraft 2 would never be finished and South Korea would go into full rage mode.
 

Loser Araysar

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No, the only response to a nuclear strike is the same, that is what keeps it as a deterrent to use.
I disagree with that, the deterrent is assured destruction, regardless of the type. Whether your country is being scorched with MOABs or nukes makes little difference to those who are watching the last hours of their lives happen.
 

iannis

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I agree that it is unlikely for NK to launch missiles at anybody. I think this is Kim Jong Un's way of starting a dialogue with the US and Japan. I imagine in a few weeks or a month there will be "talks"


I just didn't want people to get the false impression that we are safe behind this missile shield.
I think this is quickly going beyond the we're willing to talk to you stage. This is approaching the "you guys need to have a coup and install someone who understands the situation, then MAYBE we'll talk to them" stage.

I really will be disappoint if this ends with humanitarian aid to NK and them keeping the current leadership structure. That, much like an avoidable ground invasion, would be an absolute failure of diplomacy.
 
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Honestly though, fuck China. Nothing is more disruptive in that region than NK rhetoric and fear mongering. Take care of business, slant eyes.
 

iannis

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Who knows, maybe the generals are just trolling kim jong... they want him dead or deposed but don't want to be the ones that do it.