North Korean Hackers Attack On Sony

Drakurii · Dec 20, 2014

Borzak_sl said:
Yeah nobody likes my opinion. I'm fine with that.

My point was that for someone to say "check with me" or wish they would have checked with me first implies that they actually have some saying in the outcome. In this case he didn't, as far as the business decision to not come out with the movie in whatever time frame.

Of course nobody wants to bow to terrorist but I'm going to guess Sony actually has some sort of plan in place or is working on it. But to say check with me implies that the president could have persuaded them to do anything different when Sony is in the business to make money, not friends and politcal allies.

Do you think Sony have sent letters to the NSA, FBI, and Obama saying stand down we got this, please leave us alone you intrusive cunts?

khalid · Dec 20, 2014

Also, do the Sony apologists also feel it is cool that Paramount is banning theaters from screening Team American: World police, a movie that has already been shown thousands of times and didn't result in any terrorist attacks? That shit is even bigger pussy shit than the Sony decision.

Gavinmad · Dec 20, 2014

I don't feel like Sony had much of a choice when every major theater chain refused to show the movie.

Paramount is a bunch of chickenshit fucks though.

Mist · Dec 20, 2014

What Obama needed to do was come out and say this speech, verbatim.

Pretty sure he could have gotten a third term out of it.

chaos · Dec 20, 2014

khalid_sl said:
Let me try and engage you more seriously. If you read the rest of this thread, you would know that there are theaters willing to "take the risk". Why shouldn't Sony give them permission to show the movie?

I don't have to read 10 pages of rharglbhargl to know that, it's in the news. It is also in the news that every major chain opted out. So you're asking why Sony shouldn't intentionally tank its investment in this movie just to appease who? You? They don't owe you anything. They have a duty to their investors, and they fucked that up pretty bad lately.

Does anyone actually think this movie will never come out? God damn, dudes, give them a minute to regroup.

khalid · Dec 20, 2014

chaos_sl said:
So you're asking why Sony shouldn't intentionally tank its investment in this movie just to appease who?

No one is saying they should intentionally tank their investment in the movie. What I'm saying is, they could SELL THE MOVIE to people that want to show it. The obvious non-appeasement to threats solution would have been to show the movie in the theaters "brave" enough to risk "9/11 style attacks". These theaters would have been completely sold out now, I think we can be certain of that. Nothing would have happened, the major chains would be shamed into showing it, it goes a wider release.

Instead, they cave into demands, virtually guaranteeing this type of shit will happen again.

You and others like you keep saying it was obviously the correct financial decision. Bullshit. There were options other than total capitulation to the demands.

chaos · Dec 20, 2014

Bro, they can only release the movie once, then its out. At least I figure that was part of the decision. I highly doubt any chain is going to show this movie right now, regardless of what happens in the 5 theaters who are still willing to show it.

Shit, if they opened today I don't think it would play within 50 miles of me. Maybe more.

What I keep saying is that you have no idea what the the potential impact was, you are pulling straight out of your ass. They made a decision for their product in a market they are really educated in. Imma trust them over you, similar to how I wouldn't invite Sony to secure my network. It is clearly just not their field.

khalid · Dec 20, 2014

A decision clearly motivated by fear and irrationality.

I just can't wrap my head around people being in favor of this. It is shit like this that leads to absurdities like
Yale press bans image of Mohammad in book on cartoon controversy
orSouth Park not being able to show Mohammad

This is only going to lead to more of this stuff happening in the future, all cheered on by people scared of their own shadow.

Sebudai · Dec 20, 2014

As useful as revelations such as "they don't owe you anything" and "this is their decision" are, they also miss the point. It's a stupid decision because the notion that these "terrorist threats" are credible is completely absurd. Capitulating to these ridiculous "threats" sets a terrible precedent, and should be considered un-American.

chaos · Dec 20, 2014

Absurdities, and yet back in the world there could be actual consequences for showing a picture of Mohammed or whatever other stupid shit. Who are you to demand that other people pay those consequences?

Palum · Dec 20, 2014

khalid_sl said:
A decision clearly motivated by fear and irrationality.

I just can't wrap my head around people being in favor of this. It is shit like this that leads to absurdities like
Yale press bans image of Mohammad in book on cartoon controversy
orSouth Park not being able to show Mohammad

This is only going to lead to more of this stuff happening in the future, all cheered on by people scared of their own shadow.

But, but... the shareholders??

chaos · Dec 20, 2014

Sebudai_sl said:
As useful as revelations such as "they don't owe you anything" and "this is their decision" are, they also miss the point. It's a stupid decision because the notion that these "terrorist threats" are credible is completely absurd. Capitulating to these ridiculous "threats" sets a terrible precedent, and should be considered un-American.

Maybee, I don't know how credible they are. The FBI doesn't seem to think so.

Palum · Dec 20, 2014

chaos_sl said:
Absurdities, and yet back in the world there could be actual consequences for showing a picture of Mohammed or whatever other stupid shit. Who are you to demand that other people pay those consequences?

There are consequences for everything. Your suggestion for this and Sony are basically that 'any price is too high'. Should we ban abortions because some crazy people will blow up/shoot at/ whatever abortion clinics? Or is thatmoreimportant?

khalid · Dec 20, 2014

chaos_sl said:
Who are you to demand that other people pay those consequences?

I'm not "demanding" that they do it. I'm not saying Obama should order them to do it.

I'm saying they are fucking cowards. Also, complete idiots, for taking obviously bullshit uncredible threads as serious.

chaos · Dec 20, 2014

Sebudai_sl said:
As useful as revelations such as "they don't owe you anything" and "this is their decision" are, they also miss the point. It's a stupid decision because the notion that these "terrorist threats" are credible is completely absurd. Capitulating to these ridiculous "threats" sets a terrible precedent, and should be considered un-American.

Maybee, I don't know how credible they are. The FBI doesn't seem to think so.

Sebudai · Dec 20, 2014

If North Korea violently attacks the United States on its own soil over a satirical film, some realist theorists are going to need to get to work revamping their entire school of thought.

It's a completely ridiculous notion.

a_skeleton_03 · Dec 20, 2014

I don't believe for one minute Sony is scared of any terrorism threat.

I believe Sony has other information in this hack that hasn't been released yet and know that this is what is really going to harm them. The hackers have something they are holding over them and it isn't terrorism.

Palum · Dec 20, 2014

Why not just claim they got a honeypot of fake e-mails and personal data neener neener?

Siddar · Dec 20, 2014

Mist_sl said:
I'm pretty well convinced this was a coup from within their own IT departments or a former employee.

Most security experts outside the government have said the same thing, and the government is usually wrong when it comes to this stuff.

It feels very odd agreeing with Mist.

chaos · Dec 20, 2014

a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I don't believe for one minute Sony is scared of any terrorism threat.

I believe Sony has other information in this hack that hasn't been released yet and know that this is what is really going to harm them. The hackers have something they are holding over them and it isn't terrorism.

It could be that, or Sony could be using it as an excuse because they had information that told them they were going to take a bath if they released it right now. It could be any number of things. The point is, for whatever the reason is, I'm pretty sure Sony isn't going against their best interests just because.

But, I do find it HILARIOUS that Obama gets up there with a straight face talking about how we can't have free speech stifled in our nation by the spectre of some government gone too far obtaining our private information. That is some A+ irony right there.

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